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outqast
Profile Joined October 2005
United States287 Posts
December 16 2008 02:28 GMT
#1
I cannot beat this level

I couldn't find any help in the search option, and beyond a hippogryth "cheating" strategy I found by looking at google, I can't figure it out. I get about to 25 minutes before the orc base gets overrun. I've tried defending the orc base and I've tried defending the human base, I've tried all different combination of units. Has any of you beat this last level?

Thanks in advance.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4889 Posts
December 16 2008 02:32 GMT
#2
What? I beat that on the first try and I never played W3 before, and knew jack about microing stuff...it was on normal difficulty tho, not hard.

You'd be better of asking on a WC3 site though
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 16 2008 02:35 GMT
#3
WC3 campaign was like...when I was in middle school or something. I remember this level being pretty fun but really not that hard. Are you spamming your heroes hard enough?
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 16 2008 02:42 GMT
#4
You wanna ass mass towers and shit and get the 3 expos up. I think its a 30? minute time limit iirc. So basically ou need to stall like 10 minutes at each base and its ridiculously easy to hold the NE one. The only heroes that give problems are Pitlord+Lich. Pitlord especially can kill alot before he keels over. Really just camp behind towers until you eventually win
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 16 2008 03:03 GMT
#5
It's pretty tough on hard I think (or thought when I played it anyway, was even worse at wc3 then :D), however after getting annoyed at dying a few times I decided to try to stall the last 2 minutes.. So I hid a building in the trees (ate a path into the trees), spammed moonwells, and started running around with my last 2 heroes..

It turns out they ignore the building until the heroes are dead! So I run around but eventually get surrounded by 50 units and desperation mode click on hide as it's night.

They have no detection.

I win!
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Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
December 16 2008 03:32 GMT
#6
Get your three gold mines up and running asap and mine infront of the orc base. Defend the human base for as long as possible while teching to bears and dryads. You want at least two ancients of lore so you can pump your units faster. When the human base is about to get run over, start massing moonwells and protectors infront of the orcs base and put your units infront of them. You also want one chimera to take out the siege quickly so tech to that as well.

Anyway from then on, its just keeping your unit count up and repairing/rebuilding moonwells/protectors. You also want to spam your heros ultis as much as you can; I think the cooldown as relatively short. Also upgrade weapons/armour.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17728 Posts
December 16 2008 03:48 GMT
#7
You just made me want to launch the RoC campaign one more time. Damn you!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 16 2008 03:49 GMT
#8
allyourbasearebelongtous

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
outqast
Profile Joined October 2005
United States287 Posts
December 16 2008 04:17 GMT
#9
On December 16 2008 12:32 Rhaegar99 wrote:
Get your three gold mines up and running asap and mine infront of the orc base. Defend the human base for as long as possible while teching to bears and dryads. You want at least two ancients of lore so you can pump your units faster. When the human base is about to get run over, start massing moonwells and protectors infront of the orcs base and put your units infront of them. You also want one chimera to take out the siege quickly so tech to that as well.

Anyway from then on, its just keeping your unit count up and repairing/rebuilding moonwells/protectors. You also want to spam your heros ultis as much as you can; I think the cooldown as relatively short. Also upgrade weapons/armour.


You can't build chimeras for whatever reason. I'm about to try to the hippogryth cheating strategy and then I will try yours. It involves assassinating their acolytes so they don't build any additional units.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17056 Posts
December 16 2008 04:20 GMT
#10
Wait, so the Warcraft campaign doesn't cheat by just having infinite money and triggering in units instead of building them?

What a concept O_o
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outqast
Profile Joined October 2005
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 05:19:42
December 16 2008 05:17 GMT
#11
yeah well.. I want to actually beat it the way blizzard intended it.

Oh and the hippogryth cheating strategy works. Its really homo. I tried to assassinate tichonderous but he whooped a 90/90 population plus two level 10 heroes ass.

Yes in case I didn't mention it this is on hard.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
December 16 2008 06:14 GMT
#12
I didn't know using hippogryph's was considered cheating (after all, it's the final available unit for use in the campaign). I had one control group of hippogryph riders, mainly for dealing with the meat wagons so the protectors won't fall as fast. Keep upgrading (on three bases), you might want a couple of spellcasters as well. Keep laying goblin land mines before each wave. There will be a "final" wave where the human and orc bases will fall when they send in all the undead heroes and a crapload of units, so make sure you defeat all the previous waves, otherwise you haven't delayed them enough when you make your final stand.

If you upgraded to frozen throne and go back to this campaign, the archers won't be able to mount the hippogryph's for some reason, probably bug.
Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
December 16 2008 06:16 GMT
#13
Chimeras probably TFT unit You cant kill that last dude btw, hes got that armour type that cant only be damaged by any weapon type but chaos, so all you have to do is to delay him.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 06:18:43
December 16 2008 06:18 GMT
#14
theres a gold mine at the top left and another one at top right, get both up and running asap. move both ur heroes near your HU ally. rally wisps around HU base and keep spamming towers, any remaining gold should be spent on archers/huntresses. scatter your towers a bit so they dont get owned by AOE

if HU bases falls, rinse and repeat on Orc base. Orc base shouldnt fall or ur not spamming towers fast enough, easily have 20+ towers remaining by the time timer reaches 0

spam the two hero ulti's the mass healing one and the falling star thingy
outqast
Profile Joined October 2005
United States287 Posts
December 16 2008 06:26 GMT
#15
On December 16 2008 15:14 riotjune wrote:
I didn't know using hippogryph's was considered cheating (after all, it's the final available unit for use in the campaign). I had one control group of hippogryph riders, mainly for dealing with the meat wagons so the protectors won't fall as fast. Keep upgrading (on three bases), you might want a couple of spellcasters as well. Keep laying goblin land mines before each wave. There will be a "final" wave where the human and orc bases will fall when they send in all the undead heroes and a crapload of units, so make sure you defeat all the previous waves, otherwise you haven't delayed them enough when you make your final stand.

If you upgraded to frozen throne and go back to this campaign, the archers won't be able to mount the hippogryph's for some reason, probably bug.


They aren't cheating in itself, but if you use them to assassinate the acolytes so the units won't spawn, that is cheating.

I just tried that stuff and failed pretty bad. I just got run over like 20 minutes into it at the orc base.
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
December 16 2008 06:33 GMT
#16
hehehe
I remember when I beat this level...
I lost my entire army when the timer was almost over so I had to fight with my buildings (trees) to hold the enemies for a little longer.
(–_–)
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
December 16 2008 08:24 GMT
#17
make sure you don't crater on archimonde, stay out of death and decay...
oh wait
good vibes only
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
December 16 2008 08:32 GMT
#18
On December 16 2008 17:24 Meta wrote:
make sure you don't crater on archimonde, stay out of death and decay...
oh wait


even these simple instructions are too much for some, apparently
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 16 2008 08:57 GMT
#19
Prepare mass shit surrounding the human base

then kill human town hall while his shit is still mostly intact

I don't know if that bug still works.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
December 16 2008 09:17 GMT
#20
If the Alliance die YOU are dead, very simple. Build Ancient Protectors to defend, build Ancient of War, Wind, and Lore in the Human base. Pump out Archer/Huntress/Dryad/Druid of the Talon and abuse Tranquility + Starfall as much as humanly possible.

If desperate for more time and Archimonde already raped the Alliance and the Horde base then cover the gate with your Ancients so Archimonde has to kill all of them to get through hehe
^-^
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51583 Posts
December 16 2008 09:23 GMT
#21
ooo
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9573 Posts
December 16 2008 09:42 GMT
#22
On December 16 2008 11:28 outqast wrote:
I cannot beat this level

I couldn't find any help in the search option, and beyond a hippogryth "cheating" strategy I found by looking at google, I can't figure it out. I get about to 25 minutes before the orc base gets overrun. I've tried defending the orc base and I've tried defending the human base, I've tried all different combination of units. Has any of you beat this last level?

Thanks in advance.


The way I beat it: Get your heroes to humans base and help them defend as long as possible (until archi come to rape it - then run to orc's)
In the mean time - spam ancient protectors in front of orc's base - I had about 2 rows of 12 ancient protectors in front of orc's base and it successfully held out until archi came along again.
When you're done with orc's base - spam APs in front of your base.... and as many buildings as you can inside of your base to stop archimonde from getting to the gate too soon.
The 1st time I did this mission I didn't building any buildings inside of my base and Archi destroyed the gates with 5 seconds left till my win -.-. That pissed me off big time.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 16 2008 09:49 GMT
#23
I have not played it since the first few days the games came out, but I remember I had to hide buildings around the map to survive for the last few minutes.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 16 2008 10:45 GMT
#24
First of all grab the two extra gold mines asap.

What I did was mass archers + bears and a few huntresses. Two or three bears are kept in human form to roar while a few more + huntresses tank for archers. Roared 3/3 archers do a ridiculous amount of damage especially with trueshot. I held out about 15 minutes in each base and at the last night elf base i made all my wisps build buildings everywhere after my army was destroyed. Managed to hold off Archimonde long enough to win.
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EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
December 16 2008 11:12 GMT
#25
What i did when beating this level was first of all to get all the gold mines. Then i send all the units i started with plus heroes to the human base, and rallied all my buildings to human base. Then i started upgrading all the upgrades i could get and build as many ancient protectors (Three canons?) as i could afford outside orc base. Then i hold on to the human base as long as i could. When that fell i retreated to the orc base. At this time i mainly had dryads and druids of the claw.
From there on i just defended the orc base. Made sure to get a druid shout and i also made sure to use the druids rejuvanation spell to heal my units.
Then i just kept spamming units, upgrading and defending the orc base, and i never lost it.

A good tip is using Malfurions Area heal everytime time you can. It has a really short cooldown, and i could use it during every wave.

In reality it is not very hard, just hold onto the human base as long as possible, and prepare defences on the orc base, and use all of your units abilities.
Hi
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
December 16 2008 12:00 GMT
#26
i just bought lots of dryads and lots of mines
archimonde & freinds failed easily
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 12:02:16
December 16 2008 12:01 GMT
#27
Never lost the human base actually :/

I just expanded instantly to the 2 expands, then teched up really fast to bears and artillery units (to take out their artillery) and spammed ancient protectors at human base.

Tranquility is imba and will keep your bears alive. Bears also have that heal thingy so the healing becomes even more imba.

TFT last level was harder imo, with illidan being fucking imba and raping my shit constantly.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9573 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 12:18:27
December 16 2008 12:16 GMT
#28
Unless I played it on a different version I dunno how you people managed to defeat Archimonde attacking any of those bases. His armour type was Godly and you didn't have any chaos units to deal with him....
edit: and his rain of chaos lv 3 is ridiculous... that's like 10 infernals coming down from the sky...
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naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
December 16 2008 14:23 GMT
#29
Normal and hard wc3 are very different.
hmm.
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