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On January 21 2012 01:54 bebe01 wrote:
mine ran out too... decided not to renew. The game is the same from level 1-50. Not the type of MMO i liked as i don't care for the lore or story. Seemed like a single player game with multiplayer added. Meh.
I won't be renewing for this reason. The game just did not feel alive at all. I really enjoy the social part of MMO's and often I couldn't even find people to group with for quests. Also there seemed to be no real economy and trading, which is something I also love doing.
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Individual penalties for valor abusers, ability delay fixes. This game just got better.
Now only waiting on better Ilum and this game will be the best.
On January 21 2012 06:56 Executor1 wrote:
"Hey ZaneKaiser, we just checked with our ToS team and no action was taken against you. Our team is actively investigating those that took extreme advantage of the situation on Ilum, but you, personally, have not been actioned against. However, due to the misinformation that you have posted, your post has been reported to our community forum team and they will take action, per our forum rules."
Here is what they said in response to someone being worried about their ranks being stripped.
And i just assumed they would take gear away, im not sure how it works i dont pvp much but what would be the point in just taking away their rank if they have already got the gear from it? Unless it doesnt allow you to wear the gear until you hit said rank.
Did you read the OP? The guy said he went from battlemaster to gladiator and demands a revert, but the mod says that no action was taken against the user yet. Seems to me like he tried to boost himself through lies, and should be punished.
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I don't see no longtime motivation to play for this game. There is nothing to do at 50. Operations are way too easy and the items are useless, PvP is imbalanced and just a grind.
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This game seems to be failing so hard. I enjoy it though, but I won't play for many years. I will see if I even bother to level my bounty hunter(now level 6) after I'm done with my smuggler. I doubt so.
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On January 20 2012 09:41 Cytokinesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 08:54 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 03:59 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 19 2012 19:35 Zaros wrote:On January 19 2012 16:50 Cytokinesis wrote:So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel? Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing. Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that. Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic. BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on  why not pick a new server to pvp. because we don't want to spend weeks leveling new guys to get to something we enjoy. I mean, we admit leveling was way funner than any other MMO but it still sucked dick compared to playing an actual game. Kind of ridiculous that they fucked shit up so bad for our server (there is literally 0 warzones going on now, ever) that we have to spend weeks leveling again. you waited 7 hours in que?? why wouldn't you just get off after like an hour, at most... i honestly don't beleieve that you waited in que for 7 hours lol, and by the way it's more fun not funner. I realize it's more fun, thanks. Yes, we waited in queue for 7 hours. We played other games while we waited, just left it in the background to see if we even got a queue, and we didn't. Also I guess republic can play huttball against each other, forgot about that. So that's the only thing going on until like 40 more people hit level 50 And when we only have ~50 people on the fleet at peak hours that is
then how about you post "more fun" and not "funner," and i still don't believe you waited 7 hours in que
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On January 21 2012 17:56 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 09:41 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 20 2012 08:54 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 03:59 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 19 2012 19:35 Zaros wrote:On January 19 2012 16:50 Cytokinesis wrote:So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel? Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing. Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that. Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic. BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on why not pick a new server to pvp. because we don't want to spend weeks leveling new guys to get to something we enjoy. I mean, we admit leveling was way funner than any other MMO but it still sucked dick compared to playing an actual game. Kind of ridiculous that they fucked shit up so bad for our server (there is literally 0 warzones going on now, ever) that we have to spend weeks leveling again. you waited 7 hours in que?? why wouldn't you just get off after like an hour, at most... i honestly don't beleieve that you waited in que for 7 hours lol, and by the way it's more fun not funner. I realize it's more fun, thanks. Yes, we waited in queue for 7 hours. We played other games while we waited, just left it in the background to see if we even got a queue, and we didn't. Also I guess republic can play huttball against each other, forgot about that. So that's the only thing going on until like 40 more people hit level 50 And when we only have ~50 people on the fleet at peak hours that is then how about you post "more fun" and not "funner," and i still don't believe you waited 7 hours in que
Yeah I don't believe so either lol. Highest que I have seen on launch was 3 hours I think? Never saw one higher then that.
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Nice looked at the new patch notes, they are addressing the unresponsiveness of abilities so that should be coming out next week i assume. Also they are adding a space mission that gives daily commendations =)
Among a bunch of other fixes but those are the two im excited about.
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On January 21 2012 11:43 Deltablazy wrote:Individual penalties for valor abusers, ability delay fixes. This game just got better. Now only waiting on better Ilum and this game will be the best. Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 06:56 Executor1 wrote:
"Hey ZaneKaiser, we just checked with our ToS team and no action was taken against you. Our team is actively investigating those that took extreme advantage of the situation on Ilum, but you, personally, have not been actioned against. However, due to the misinformation that you have posted, your post has been reported to our community forum team and they will take action, per our forum rules."
Here is what they said in response to someone being worried about their ranks being stripped.
And i just assumed they would take gear away, im not sure how it works i dont pvp much but what would be the point in just taking away their rank if they have already got the gear from it? Unless it doesnt allow you to wear the gear until you hit said rank. Did you read the OP? The guy said he went from battlemaster to gladiator and demands a revert, but the mod says that no action was taken against the user yet. Seems to me like he tried to boost himself through lies, and should be punished.
Yea I understood that, but i was just tallking about the part where he said that said that they are investigating those that took extreme advantage. They released an official statement outside of the forums on it today anyways though shortly after i posted that.
Here is the 1.1.1 patch notes for those that are interested.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1957455#edit1957455
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On January 21 2012 18:02 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 17:56 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 09:41 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 20 2012 08:54 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 03:59 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 19 2012 19:35 Zaros wrote:On January 19 2012 16:50 Cytokinesis wrote:So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel? Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing. Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that. Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic. BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on why not pick a new server to pvp. because we don't want to spend weeks leveling new guys to get to something we enjoy. I mean, we admit leveling was way funner than any other MMO but it still sucked dick compared to playing an actual game. Kind of ridiculous that they fucked shit up so bad for our server (there is literally 0 warzones going on now, ever) that we have to spend weeks leveling again. you waited 7 hours in que?? why wouldn't you just get off after like an hour, at most... i honestly don't beleieve that you waited in que for 7 hours lol, and by the way it's more fun not funner. I realize it's more fun, thanks. Yes, we waited in queue for 7 hours. We played other games while we waited, just left it in the background to see if we even got a queue, and we didn't. Also I guess republic can play huttball against each other, forgot about that. So that's the only thing going on until like 40 more people hit level 50 And when we only have ~50 people on the fleet at peak hours that is then how about you post "more fun" and not "funner," and i still don't believe you waited 7 hours in que Yeah I don't believe so either lol. Highest que I have seen on launch was 3 hours I think? Never saw one higher then that.
Hes not talking about a queue to get into the server, hes talking about how he waited in queue for a warzone for 7 hours.
I dont beleive it either though, supposedly he played other games and kept checking back, but the game logs you out pretty quickly for being inactive i find it hard to beleive he didnt get logged out at least once during that time.
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On January 21 2012 10:09 Pablols wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 01:54 bebe01 wrote:
mine ran out too... decided not to renew. The game is the same from level 1-50. Not the type of MMO i liked as i don't care for the lore or story. Seemed like a single player game with multiplayer added. Meh. I won't be renewing for this reason. The game just did not feel alive at all. I really enjoy the social part of MMO's and often I couldn't even find people to group with for quests. Also there seemed to be no real economy and trading, which is something I also love doing.
I have a great guild that im an officer in, and we always have about 20 members online. I find the social part just as engaging as any other mmo. Wow is the same way, if your leveling there isnt usually to many other people around for grouping up for quests in the low zones. This game is still new though and when i was leveling up there was 50+ people on most planets until i got to the higher levels. I Think i was about a week or so ahead of the pack though because now i see tons of people on those planets. Not to mention im playing republic and there is significantly more sith on my server, when i play on my sith alt, some zones have 250+ people in one instance, and who knows how many in another.
The instances dont have limits as far as i know (maybe for ilum now because of the issues) its just convenient to use them if you are getting ganked constantly, or if there are too many people farming in an area etc. I think its a good feature.
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This game is still thriving.. go read the figures EA/BioWare just posted post SWTOR release. They're expecting 75-90% continued subs and their player base to shoot up past 3m in the next month.. way ahead of where WoW was in its equivalent life span.
Alot of kids that're complaining about the game just aren't patient. WoW was just as fun (and just as buggy) as SWTOR was when it first came out - the game will be smoother deeper into the development cycle. This is the most content I've ever seen packed into a game at release. To not expect a fair few bugs even after a lengthy beta just means you're naive if you ask me.
The only real down of the game so far has been patch 1.1 but its release other than that has been as smoothe as anything. 1.1.1 looks to be going in a great direction again.
Stop being negative nancies dammit. It literally is so infuriating - in every game I play there are so many complainers these days, sit back, play your games and enjoy.
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Not continuing with subscription either. The PvP is unbalanced and there is no reason to PvP either. In every CGI movie and intro of this game you are shown a great war between the imperials and the republic. This never happens ingame, its just about your story until 50. Then its just farming gear from daylies, hard mode flashpoints and warzones (only 3 still)
It really feels like a multiplayer game not an MMO, the world seems entirely dead and you are guided by your storyline throughout the planet. There is no decisions on your part other than dialogue choices. Its weird but this game is WAY more linear than WoW or SWG. Ofcourse Bioware have done many things good with this game, but the MMO part of it is really really lacking. Im playing on the biggest server in EU and its hard to find groups and when i was in Alderaan the main instance had 7 players. Thats fun !
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On January 21 2012 18:15 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 18:02 blade55555 wrote:On January 21 2012 17:56 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 09:41 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 20 2012 08:54 Endymion wrote:On January 20 2012 03:59 Cytokinesis wrote:On January 19 2012 19:35 Zaros wrote:On January 19 2012 16:50 Cytokinesis wrote:So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel? Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing. Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that. Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic. BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on why not pick a new server to pvp. because we don't want to spend weeks leveling new guys to get to something we enjoy. I mean, we admit leveling was way funner than any other MMO but it still sucked dick compared to playing an actual game. Kind of ridiculous that they fucked shit up so bad for our server (there is literally 0 warzones going on now, ever) that we have to spend weeks leveling again. you waited 7 hours in que?? why wouldn't you just get off after like an hour, at most... i honestly don't beleieve that you waited in que for 7 hours lol, and by the way it's more fun not funner. I realize it's more fun, thanks. Yes, we waited in queue for 7 hours. We played other games while we waited, just left it in the background to see if we even got a queue, and we didn't. Also I guess republic can play huttball against each other, forgot about that. So that's the only thing going on until like 40 more people hit level 50 And when we only have ~50 people on the fleet at peak hours that is then how about you post "more fun" and not "funner," and i still don't believe you waited 7 hours in que Yeah I don't believe so either lol. Highest que I have seen on launch was 3 hours I think? Never saw one higher then that. Hes not talking about a queue to get into the server, hes talking about how he waited in queue for a warzone for 7 hours. I dont beleive it either though, supposedly he played other games and kept checking back, but the game logs you out pretty quickly for being inactive i find it hard to beleive he didnt get logged out at least once during that time.
To be fair the day the patch came out everyone was farming valor in Ilum and had no time for wzs.
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On January 21 2012 19:15 Avean wrote:
Not continuing with subscription either. The PvP is unbalanced and there is no reason to PvP either. In every CGI movie and intro of this game you are shown a great war between the imperials and the republic. This never happens ingame, its just about your story until 50. Then its just farming gear from daylies, hard mode flashpoints and warzones (only 3 still)
It really feels like a multiplayer game not an MMO, the world seems entirely dead and you are guided by your storyline throughout the planet. There is no decisions on your part other than dialogue choices. Its weird but this game is WAY more linear than WoW or SWG. Ofcourse Bioware have done many things good with this game, but the MMO part of it is really really lacking. Im playing on the biggest server in EU and its hard to find groups and when i was in Alderaan the main instance had 7 players. Thats fun !
Oh rly? Tell me the name of this server. I'm playing at Kai-Kan which is standard population server and I don't have problems to find group.. And tell me about how pvp is unbalanced? Maybe you should just think how to play as a team in warzone and think how you should play against other classes?
You guys should give more time for this game and find a guild, play with them so much more fun.
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On January 21 2012 19:45 Hyge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 19:15 Avean wrote:
Not continuing with subscription either. The PvP is unbalanced and there is no reason to PvP either. In every CGI movie and intro of this game you are shown a great war between the imperials and the republic. This never happens ingame, its just about your story until 50. Then its just farming gear from daylies, hard mode flashpoints and warzones (only 3 still)
It really feels like a multiplayer game not an MMO, the world seems entirely dead and you are guided by your storyline throughout the planet. There is no decisions on your part other than dialogue choices. Its weird but this game is WAY more linear than WoW or SWG. Ofcourse Bioware have done many things good with this game, but the MMO part of it is really really lacking. Im playing on the biggest server in EU and its hard to find groups and when i was in Alderaan the main instance had 7 players. Thats fun ! Oh rly? Tell me the name of this server. I'm playing at Kai-Kan which is standard population server and I don't have problems to find group.. And tell me about how pvp is unbalanced? Maybe you should just think how to play as a team in warzone and think how you should play against other classes? You guys should give more time for this game and find a guild, play with them so much more fun.
Im also on Kai-Kan but im a bit of a lone wolf atm no guild or any friends 
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Yea, I don't think I'm going to continue playing SWTOR for as long as I did WoW (since beta), I mean the story driven questing is amazing. Best I've even seen and played in a mmo, but they just didn't think through everything. The PvP, you would think since having people from the Warhammer pvp team, that they would learn from their mistakes and improve on what they did wrong in Warhammer. They didn't do that very much. Hell, hardly at all. The amount of frame rate issues people are having is unbelievably huge. I have a good setup and yet I get frame rate issues. I can't raid because of that. I can't PvP because of it.
I can just go on and on and on, but I won't. I love the game and yet I hate it so much more. It could've been so much better and could've been released so much better but sadly, it wasn't.
Please don't think I'm hating on the game seeing how I played WoW since beta. I only canceled my sub 2 months ago in order to prepare for this game, hoping it would be another MMO I could spend years playing.
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On January 21 2012 18:28 cozzE wrote:
This game is still thriving.. go read the figures EA/BioWare just posted post SWTOR release. They're expecting 75-90% continued subs and their player base to shoot up past 3m in the next month.. way ahead of where WoW was in its equivalent life span.
Alot of kids that're complaining about the game just aren't patient. WoW was just as fun (and just as buggy) as SWTOR was when it first came out - the game will be smoother deeper into the development cycle. This is the most content I've ever seen packed into a game at release. To not expect a fair few bugs even after a lengthy beta just means you're naive if you ask me.
The only real down of the game so far has been patch 1.1 but its release other than that has been as smoothe as anything. 1.1.1 looks to be going in a great direction again.
Stop being negative nancies dammit. It literally is so infuriating - in every game I play there are so many complainers these days, sit back, play your games and enjoy.
the bold part is no idicator at all. when WoW came out, there wasnt another MMO with 10 million players and the whole MMO scene wasnt as developed as it is today, mainly because of WoW
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On January 21 2012 18:28 cozzE wrote:
This game is still thriving.. go read the figures EA/BioWare just posted post SWTOR release. They're expecting 75-90% continued subs and their player base to shoot up past 3m in the next month.. way ahead of where WoW was in its equivalent life span.
Alot of kids that're complaining about the game just aren't patient. WoW was just as fun (and just as buggy) as SWTOR was when it first came out - the game will be smoother deeper into the development cycle. This is the most content I've ever seen packed into a game at release. To not expect a fair few bugs even after a lengthy beta just means you're naive if you ask me.
The only real down of the game so far has been patch 1.1 but its release other than that has been as smoothe as anything. 1.1.1 looks to be going in a great direction again.
Stop being negative nancies dammit. It literally is so infuriating - in every game I play there are so many complainers these days, sit back, play your games and enjoy.
Normally I would agree with you but in this case, I don't know man... Despite requiring a subscription, the game was released with very important bugs. Some of them have been reported since beta, and some of them are game-breaking. Not to mention the fact it seems that if it weren't for the players giving feedback, some issues wouldn't even have been addressed. The game also lacks a couple of standard features.
Nonetheless hopefully this game will be successful.
edit, Enox is right too, TOR is competing with today's WoW, not 2004 WoW.
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I would bet at least 50% have not bought another month if they already reached level50. MMOs are just not what they were back in 2005-2007. Too easy&casual takes away all your motivation at the endgame.
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The problem is its TOO much focused on levelling and grinding for stuff. What about actually playing a game for "fun" ? MMO players are all about spending 5-10 hours a day grinding theyre butts off to get some epic stuff so they can have some fun in PvP. And they are not having fun grinding, seen tons of streams of players sitting bored as hell grinding. This is in every MMO. Dont let developers fool you into spending so much time for so little, they will continue on creating WoW clones so long you the players are playing these type of gameplay.
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