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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:43:49
January 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#4001
On January 19 2012 02:59 Shiladie wrote:
I'm trying to see if it's a game I'll enjoy, and I've heard a lot of mixed reviews about the game. I figure the answers to these questions will help others in deciding if they should play or not as well.

What level characters do you have and of what classes?
What is your previous MMO experience?
What do you enjoy most about the game?
What are your plans going forward? (hardcore PvE/PvP, mass alts, etc)
If you have left, or are considering it, what are the reasons? (lack of content, uncompetetive PvP/PvE, etc)
If there was something realistic bioware could do to make the game significantly better for you, what is it?
how about worse?
What are your predictions concerning the future of the game?

Thank you for the answers!


What level characters do you have and of what classes?
50 juggernaut is my main
levelled a lv20 powertech on the beta
I've also played every class to level 15 and have played my girlfriend's lvl 50 sorc.

What is your previous MMO experience?
11 years spread over like 20 games. Most significant ones (in terms of amount played) have been WoW, Aion, RFO, MapleStory, FlyFF.

What do you enjoy most about the game?
I'm loving PVP at the moment as I'm in the process of looking for a good group for PVE content, but I've at least done the flashpoints and the normal mode raid and they were fantastic.

What are your plans going forward? (hardcore PvE/PvP, mass alts, etc)
Probably a mix, hardcore PvP around a light weekly raid schedule.

If you have left, or are considering it, what are the reasons? (lack of content, uncompetetive PvP/PvE, etc)
Definitely not leaving.

If there was something realistic bioware could do to make the game significantly better for you, what is it?
Fix the activation delay of skills in PVP and client/server character displacement. It makes playing a melee class in PVP twice as hard as it should be.

Large scale mass PVP such as fort sieges in Aion or Chip Wars in RFO. This is heavily reliant on faction balance though.

Also small scale competitive PVP, such as arenas in WoW.

how about worse?
- Consistent poor decision making on balancing of the game and complacency on introducing new content. So far it has been pretty good so this isn't a concern of mine (even as a Biochemist - I admit it kind of needed a nerf ).

- If they introduce more "RNG" grind fests such as the green matrix shard in Bel Savis. If you don't know what that is - think the Time Lost Proto Drake in WoW. That shit doesn't make people enjoy the game more it just keeps them busy doing stupid shit, you're better than that Bioware. Keep rewards skill or effort based, not luck based.

What are your predictions concerning the future of the game?
Future is bright - they've already fixed SO many of the issues that came along with release and there are more planned for the future. The game is very quickly catching up to the refinement of games that have been out significantly longer.



On January 19 2012 08:29 ZasZ. wrote:
What is the /played time though per 50? A week real-life time means nothing, you could be playing 18 hours a day. In which case, around a week for you isn't a joke for anybody else that can only play for a few hours a day max (i.e., the people with jobs).


Personally /played was 6 days when I hit 50. I've heard of others with 5 days and some with over 12. The most efficient way of levelling is questing as a 2 person team and doing only enough quests on each planet to keep up with your class quest. Oh, and skipping all dialog.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 23:45:08
January 18 2012 23:43 GMT
#4002
What level characters do you have and of what classes? 50 Sorc

What is your previous MMO experience? Daoc, Planet Side, GW, WoW (multiple glad)

What do you enjoy most about the game? I'm a PvP only guy, so I don't really like anything about it right now, I'd consider WoWs PvP better right now and I hate WoW PvP so yeah..

What are your plans going forward? (hardcore PvE/PvP, mass alts, etc) I'm going to quit until my irl friends are 50 so I can play some premade warzones with them. If they don't reach the cap I'll quit the game.

If you have left, or are considering it, what are the reasons? (lack of content, uncompetetive PvP/PvE, etc) See my reasons above.

If there was something realistic bioware could do to make the game significantly better for you, what is it? Huh, more PvP content, I don't care if it's open world PvP (Yeah not the crap that is called Ilum) or rated WZs or even something like Arenas.
how about worse? It doesn't get much worse from a PvP perspective.

What are your predictions concerning the future of the game? It's going to be the second biggest MMO, is that an achievement? We have to wait for the subscriber count in early '13.
3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
January 19 2012 00:36 GMT
#4003
I got to level 20 as an Inquisitor before I confirmed what I knew before I even bought this game, and that is that it has innovated even less than Rift. What an utter waste. Makes me infuriated with myself that I never tried SWG. Sandbox people, think sandbox!

Guess I'll wait for PlanetSide 2 and hope it's not a disappointment!
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 00:50:19
January 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#4004
Just read about the update coming in march, they are adding the full legacy system. Ranked pvp, a new planet, a new warzone, new single player quest content, guild banks, part 2 of the flashpoint Kaon under siege. Also new companions are coming as well as new space combat. (regardless of one the rails or not, i think the space combat is alot of fun , its challenging and its graphically beautiful i had alot of fun with it so far) Also in the future they are going to expand on space combat, aka make it off the rails, that would be sweet to have a space combat pvp warzone or something.

Oh and they are adding a new raid with 8 and 16 players modes.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 00:53:40
January 19 2012 00:53 GMT
#4005
my /played @50 was 4days 0hours and 10minutes and I went AFK multiple times for an hour or so. no group quests at all, only solo + space, no flashpoints either.

i hit 50 at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. now i can't do jack shit in WZs (assassin) since everyone has baller gear and I only have one piece of PvP gear (i got a Implant first bag), but the damn lowest wep (champion?) has over 100 more top end then mine. seems most people are terribad at PvP, on the forums they have this retarded spec for sins, but i made my own (7/31/3) and i almost always am top1-2 even with shit gear.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 01:03:43
January 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#4006
Really hope they do a rollback of PvP ranks or something because this is just getting ridiculous, here people have done warzones for hours every single day since early access to get their battlemaster and now people are doing it in half a day. :p

Edit; and just as I wrote that they came with an update:

Hello everyone; I wanted to update you on the issues we’ve been seeing today on the live servers, specifically within the Open World PvP area on Ilum. We’re aware that on some servers, either Republic or Empire groups have been capturing the Ilum control points, entering the enemy’s base and ‘camping’ the medcenters, preventing the opposite faction from leaving their base to recapture control points. This is not a fair or balanced gameplay experience and can also severely affect client performance, so we’re taking steps to address this.

Our intended design for Ilum Open World PvP is that players are instantly killed when entering the enemy’s base safe area, just like in Warzones, and that the defending faction can take taxis to other points within the zone. As of Game Update 1.1, this is not working as intended. We have found the issue preventing this from happening under server load and will be publishing an Emergency Patch to address the issue. We’re aiming to have this patch published early tomorrow morning (January 19th, 5 AM US CST).

In addition to these changes, we’ll be reducing the population cap on Ilum. This should help increase performance by requiring your client to render fewer characters on-screen at once.

Regarding Valor gains, with the 1.1 update, players now receive a base reward of 20 Valor per unique enemy player defeated in a short time, and this base reward is modified by the number of objectives that the player’s faction owns. The gains are rate limited per player killed, encouraging players to attack unique players, not to pursue vendettas. The Valor gains players can see over time will vary greatly depending on the activity level in the zone. This is expected.

To dispel a couple of rumors that have been seen today – there is no Valor gain from destroying turrets within enemy bases, and none from killing NPCs.

We encourage players to avoid Ilum until our patch is deployed. As a temporary measure we will be disabling taxi services which would normally take players into the Open World PvP area. However, players will still be able to taxi out of the area.

We will continue to monitor Ilum across all servers and will make further changes to gameplay if required. We welcome your feedback here on the Forums, but please ensure your feedback is constructive and specific. Feedback based on rumor does not help us isolate potential issues.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
January 19 2012 01:23 GMT
#4007
We encourage players to avoid Ilum until our patch is deployed. As a temporary measure we will be disabling taxi services which would normally take players into the Open World PvP area.


Oh wow, really? Thats a lot more admitting to having completely screwed up than i ever would have expected x) maybe not all hope is lost.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
January 19 2012 01:37 GMT
#4008
On January 19 2012 09:53 Silidons wrote:
my /played @50 was 4days 0hours and 10minutes and I went AFK multiple times for an hour or so. no group quests at all, only solo + space, no flashpoints either.

i hit 50 at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. now i can't do jack shit in WZs (assassin) since everyone has baller gear and I only have one piece of PvP gear (i got a Implant first bag), but the damn lowest wep (champion?) has over 100 more top end then mine. seems most people are terribad at PvP, on the forums they have this retarded spec for sins, but i made my own (7/31/3) and i almost always am top1-2 even with shit gear.


Weapons are like the easiest thing to upgrade, get a orange gun/lightsaber, buy barrel/hilt for 8 daily commendations and you suddenly have a weapon that is as good as hardmode 5man/normal operations and almost as good as the PvP weapon.

Another update on the Ilum stuff, good enough as long as it's not just talk and PR.
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to be clear and let you all know that we’re definitely aware of individuals who took extreme advantage of this situation and we will be carefully evaluating and taking action as necessary.
Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
January 19 2012 01:54 GMT
#4009
So whos empire and enjoying abusing ilum to get to valor rank 60 @_@.....
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
January 19 2012 02:21 GMT
#4010
Its only 20 valor per unique PVP kill?

That is utter trash, you used to get nearly 2k valor per game with the valor buff from Ilum. *(
Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 02:40:07
January 19 2012 02:39 GMT
#4011
On January 19 2012 11:21 Tektos wrote:
Its only 20 valor per unique PVP kill?

That is utter trash, you used to get nearly 2k valor per game with the valor buff from Ilum. *(


The more control points you have the more Valor you get, I got about 120 a kill with 3 points controlled?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 19 2012 02:47 GMT
#4012
On January 19 2012 11:39 Kyyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 11:21 Tektos wrote:
Its only 20 valor per unique PVP kill?

That is utter trash, you used to get nearly 2k valor per game with the valor buff from Ilum. *(


The more control points you have the more Valor you get, I got about 120 a kill with 3 points controlled?


Yup thats right you get like 120 if you control 2-3 control points.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
January 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#4013
On January 19 2012 11:47 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 11:39 Kyyuna wrote:
On January 19 2012 11:21 Tektos wrote:
Its only 20 valor per unique PVP kill?

That is utter trash, you used to get nearly 2k valor per game with the valor buff from Ilum. *(


The more control points you have the more Valor you get, I got about 120 a kill with 3 points controlled?


Yup thats right you get like 120 if you control 2-3 control points.


Okay that seems a little more reasonable.
Artosis Mermaid
Profile Joined February 2011
United States34 Posts
January 19 2012 07:29 GMT
#4014
On January 19 2012 09:53 Silidons wrote:
my /played @50 was 4days 0hours and 10minutes and I went AFK multiple times for an hour or so. no group quests at all, only solo + space, no flashpoints either.

i hit 50 at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. now i can't do jack shit in WZs (assassin) since everyone has baller gear and I only have one piece of PvP gear (i got a Implant first bag), but the damn lowest wep (champion?) has over 100 more top end then mine. seems most people are terribad at PvP, on the forums they have this retarded spec for sins, but i made my own (7/31/3) and i almost always am top1-2 even with shit gear.


Do not listen to the forums on assassin specs. They've got these ATROCIOUS shock specs that are poorly tested and rely on gimmicks to work. I'm working on my Centurion gear now, and I've had a bit of success with this spec:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200MZhGbRkhrbtzZf0c.1

But I'd wait until you get a little more gear before you try it, both crit and surge help it a lot.

Well, I'm still waiting to get a decent patch for 1.1, I can't even get past the Launcher (now dubbed Gandalf), as all sorts of errors and general displeasure seems to be happening. Wish you luck though!
When you play the Game of Drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 07:52:08
January 19 2012 07:50 GMT
#4015
So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel?

Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing.

Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that.

Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic.

BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 19 2012 10:35 GMT
#4016
On January 19 2012 16:50 Cytokinesis wrote:
So I was a 50 sith marauder and my friend was a 50 sith assassin. We have extensive mmo experience with WoW. Both of us pvp'ed a ton in WoW, and I was a hardcore raider in a world ranked guild. So, we both cancelled our subs after this patch even though we were enjoying it prior to the patch. We both were always, ALWAYS top dmg on the warzones we played, and enjoyed pvping together. So why did we cancel?

Because this patch royally fucked pvp. It is literally impossible for us to pvp on our server. We waited in queue for 7 hours for a warzone today and never got into one. There is a grand total of about 50 level 50's on our server imperial side and over 200 on republic side. Out of those 50 on imperial side only 10 pvp. So for us to even get into a queue 6 of those 10 have to be online and queuing. Now we could sit here and wait and hope more people hit 50, but we aren't waiting months and paying money for nothing.

Not to mention ilum is totally fucked. But everyone knows about that.

Then there is the whole valor shit. I am really disappointed. This truly was the TORtanic.

BTW if your an assassin 31/0/10 is by far the best pvp specialization. And marauder is definitively Rage spec as well. But GLHF to anyone staying with it. I'm jealous of the servers you guys decided to play on


why not pick a new server to pvp.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10720 Posts
January 19 2012 10:46 GMT
#4017
Or a game that was designed for it...
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
January 19 2012 10:48 GMT
#4018
What level characters do you have and of what classes?
44 Marauder, 34 Sorc and Assassin, 35 Operative.

What is your previous MMO experience?
WoW since it's release (Wrath excluded).

What do you enjoy most about the game?
Story + PvP so far. Flashpoints just seem too much of a hassle for very little reward (this is my personal opinion tho).

What are your plans going forward? (hardcore PvE/PvP, mass alts, etc)
Get my Sorc and Mara to 50, get a taste of end-game PvE and PvP, decide what to do.

If you have left, or are considering it, what are the reasons? (lack of content, uncompetetive PvP/PvE, etc)
Not leaving for at least a month more.

If there was something realistic bioware could do to make the game significantly better for you, what is it?
#1 Skill delay/general responsiveness. #2 Mods. #3 A boatload of quality of life improvements, especially the GTN.

how about worse?
If they listen to the whiners, it's going to be terrible. The forums are a 24/7 whinefest of epic proportions about everything. They have a good game here - they can make it great. But they need to ignore all the entitled turds on the forums.

What are your predictions concerning the future of the game?
Patch 1.1 and what we've heard of the next one prove that BioWare very much cares about making this game the very best. There are several issues present at this point, but I have no doubt in my mind that they'll be resolved in the next several patches - this is going to be a great game.
Aela
Profile Joined January 2012
97 Posts
January 19 2012 10:55 GMT
#4019
PvP is so bad in this game, srsly.
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
January 19 2012 11:48 GMT
#4020
On January 19 2012 19:55 Aela wrote:
PvP is so bad in this game, srsly.

We have too many shitposts like these, srsly.

Please elaborate more if youre going to criticize in a DISCUSSION thread.
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