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whiteLotus
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 04 2012 20:09 haflo wrote: I am an X-wow vet (killed raggy heroic) and i must say i absolutely love SWOTR. The leveling experience and story telling is fantastic for an MMO , and for the most quest part i actually care about whats its about. flash points so far been decently challenging , and the crafting is sweet as well. my insight on the empire / republic balance, for me personally i had major issue with corresant , it felt uninteresting blend , huge with a lot of running and very grindy . i got annoyed quite fast from the crazy people who wanted me to hack some terminal / pipe etc pretty fast . when i switched to my alt i found their world much better (kosab?) , and actually on-par with the starting worlds story-telling wise , and i also loved the look and npcs . maybe just for my perferance , but thats why i am for now sticking with my sith. I am an ex-wow vet (killed raggy heroic) and I must say I absolutely love SWTOR. The leveling experience and story telling is fantastic for an MMO and for the most (quest) part, I actually care about what it's about. Flash points so far have been decently challenging, the crafting is sweet as well. My insight on the empire / republic balance: For me personally, I had major issues with Coruscant. It felt uninteresting and huge, with a lot of running and grinding. I got annoyed quite fast from the crazy people who wanted me to hack some terminal / pipe etc. pretty fast. When I switched to my alt, I found their wold much better (Tython?(not sure what he means)), and actually on-par with the starting worlds story-telling wise. I also loved the look and the npcs. Maybe just for my preference, but that's why I'm sticking with my Sith for now. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
 Are there any good sites for PvE and PvP builds yet? I'd quite like to get my PvP build set on my Sage while levelling still, so I can get key bindings right, and get to know where everything is/what to prio | ||
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
On January 04 2012 10:52 lisward wrote: Can I ask a question? This game costs $100 USD where I come from because it needs to be imported and Bioware probably isn't going to support my region anytime soon. Plus there's subscription right? Should I buy it or wait? I would check out a few streams of the game and watch people quest/play at the mid and high levels to make sure it is what you like. Keep in mind that the 'Ohhh Star Wars and Light Sabres' will wear out so the gameplay has to seem fun to you to continue playing. The game is really cool the first time you go through it though each additional play through bogs you through 90% of the same cut scenes. It is almost like watching Part 2 (or 3 or 4) of a movie and 80-90% of it being the exact same movie as Part 1 with only one plot twist that is different. If you love the dialogue and VO though (or don't mind mashing spacebar for all of your alts) then it's not too bad. I think it would have made a great co-op single-player with 8 stories but as an MMO, I didn't love it. YMMV though so definitely 'try before you buy' with some streams for a few hours. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:12 DrSeRRoD wrote: I would check out a few streams of the game and watch people quest/play at the mid and high levels to make sure it is what you like. Keep in mind that the 'Ohhh Star Wars and Light Sabres' will wear out so the gameplay has to seem fun to you to continue playing. The game is really cool the first time you go through it though each additional play through bogs you through 90% of the same cut scenes. It is almost like watching Part 2 (or 3 or 4) of a movie and 80-90% of it being the exact same movie as Part 1 with only one plot twist that is different. If you love the dialogue and VO though (or don't mind mashing spacebar for all of your alts) then it's not too bad. I think it would have made a great co-op single-player with 8 stories but as an MMO, I didn't love it. YMMV though so definitely 'try before you buy' with some streams for a few hours. That said, aren't all the class stories different? I have 6 characters around 15~ and 1 27, and playing the character's class quests have been really fun. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:17 OutlaW- wrote: That said, aren't all the class stories different? I have 6 characters around 15~ and 1 27, and playing the character's class quests have been really fun. Yes, the class stories are different. The advanced class system was an elegant way to let them make four stories (eight total) for each faction while still having eight classes available at launch. That said, most of the questing you do isn't your class quest. All the other quests are pretty much shared through the whole faction and thus repeat content for alts, which is the 80-90% that was referred to. I believe Empire and Republic don't share quests, though (may have carbon copies, but different dialog/etc.). Not positive, but shouldn't be too much, if any, of repeats when leveling a character on the other side of the fence which should help keep it fresh just a tad longer. | ||
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:17 OutlaW- wrote: That said, aren't all the class stories different? I have 6 characters around 15~ and 1 27, and playing the character's class quests have been really fun. Yes, they are. All of the quests outside of the individual class stories are identical though. Jedi Consular and Jedi Knight will go through every single identical planet and quests in the same exact order (most likely) except for their class instance quests. The same applies for every 2 classes that begin on the same planet. All of the factions will go through the exact same quests and orders once they are past level 10 on planet #2 (planet #2, 3, 4, etc. is the same for all of the Republic and all of the Sith classes). The only way to get variety outside of the class quests is to choose a different dialogue option or out-level and skip a planet on one character and then visit it on another when you level them and out-level and skip a different planet (aside from class story requirements). I would also alternate Republic and Sith characters to avoid things getting 'old' too fast due to watching the same thing over and over instead of alternating between watching 2 different things... over and over. That may be enough for some people (to see them say You are bad! instead of You are so good!) but for me, it was not. Unfortunately, you cannot play only the class story, it is not enough xp to advance. You will need to PvP/Flashpoint/Space Mission quite a lot if you want to bypass repeating the exact same quest videos and dialogues on every single character per side. As you level up and more xp is required, it will be worse. I cannot even imagine someone what wanted to have the 2 ACs of the same class and have to watch and replace the same movies all the way to 50. Like I said though, YMMV. Some people love watching the same dialogues and just get glossy eyes over the fact that they are in a SW movie. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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defteH
United Kingdom134 Posts
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:57 Kiante wrote: has anyone levelled directly with another player? Like say i start a new toon with a friend and we both pick the same class can we do the class quests together? If different classes, how easy is it to level together? You can do the class quests together but it will only count for one of you (if you are the same base class). You will have to go in two times per class-quest instance OR just go individually and meet back outside to save some time. The game works really well as a duo + 2 companions, especially if you choose classes that compliment each other well (heals + tanking doesn't hurt + 2 DPS companions). If you choose 2 classes, you will share at least from planet 2 and beyond (after level 10). If you are both Force Users or Gun Users, then you can share the quests from level 1 basically since you start on the same planet. I would personally go with 2 different classes so you can experience both stories together and then not have to play through that class later just for the story. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10960 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:57 Kiante wrote: has anyone levelled directly with another player? Like say i start a new toon with a friend and we both pick the same class can we do the class quests together? If different classes, how easy is it to level together? Very easy. I actually think leveling is the fastest in teams of 2 because you can truly shred thru normal mobs while there are some downtimes later on when you solo (or your killspeed suffers, depending on class/specc). | ||
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Insomniac22
United States907 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:57 Kiante wrote: has anyone levelled directly with another player? Like say i start a new toon with a friend and we both pick the same class can we do the class quests together? If different classes, how easy is it to level together? Yes I'd recommend having a buddy so you can do the "Heroic" quests with just you two and your companions | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:57 Kiante wrote: has anyone levelled directly with another player? Like say i start a new toon with a friend and we both pick the same class can we do the class quests together? If different classes, how easy is it to level together? I started off with my friend for the entirety of the first Act, and it was really comfortable throughout (he healed, I DPSed, had both our companions as tanks) As said before, you have to do a class quest twice, once for each player. Also, avoid having the same proffs! We were fighting over archaeology fragments everywhere, to the point that we would try to get the other killed so one could get a crystal :D | ||
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whiteLotus
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 04 2012 23:00 defteH wrote: Still considering getting this, but I've read up on a lot of the problems with Customer Service (There isn't any) and Payment setup, is it worth getting despite this? I'm a massive SW nut, and I played the Beta (Got a trooper to level 20 before it shut down and really enjoyed it) but I'm wary of buying it due to the customer service issues. Every MMO I've ever played has had customer support issues. Doesn't matter if it was subscription based or F2P. Blizzard can afford to have a really big support team and they have people around the clock. Unfortunately the same cannot be said about every other franchise. :/ If you enjoyed the beta and enjoy SW then I don't see why you wouldn't get it. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
On January 04 2012 13:26 Fruscainte wrote: Sorry if this has already been posted, but I saw this posted on Reddit and I searched the last 5 pages to see if it was posted. Hope my embedding didn't dick up again ;_; Apparently typing /getdown makes it so NPC's can't attack you. Starts happening at :40. Don't know if it's you just dancing, but from what appears in the video, it's every time you type the command "/getdown" it stops the enemies casting. Is this a confirmed bug, or am I being trolled? ;_; Again, sorry if repost. apparently this does work, but shouldnt be done^^ http://i.imgur.com/HnKp7.jpg | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:09 Sabin010 wrote: How do you guys get so many credits? I'm a level 36 Sage and I'm always broke. I couldn't get my speeder license until lvl 30, and I still havent been able to afford all of my techniques. I've done enough pvp to get into the high 20s for my valor, but I'm still broke. I don't even buy medpacks, stims, or equipment. Is there a secret looting spot I don't know about? yeah i dont understand this either, im level 25 sentinel and i dont buy any medpaks nor stims and cant even get all the skills that cost 2-3k not even talking about speeder lol | ||
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:09 Sabin010 wrote: How do you guys get so many credits? I'm a level 36 Sage and I'm always broke. I couldn't get my speeder license until lvl 30, and I still havent been able to afford all of my techniques. I've done enough pvp to get into the high 20s for my valor, but I'm still broke. I don't even buy medpacks, stims, or equipment. Is there a secret looting spot I don't know about? Well I got a lot of cash myself just by gathering nodes in the world while questing. Lot's of PVP as well.. it's decent cash. | ||
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