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Subtitle: Magic The Gathering Nerdier Than Starcraft?
I recently came across some new cards and realized there have been about oh, + Show Spoiler +126,128,716,291,621,962 sets
Anyways, I was looking for some help downloading and figuring out some of these free online programs that have every single card; Alpha to Shadowmoor [I think this is the latest set?] that let you build custom decks and save them and load other premade decks etc and play my friends online. Prefereably one that also doubles as an Encyclopedia because my friend and I just threw all our cards in big boxes years ago and they are all mixed up and it would take a day to organize and sort them in order to make decks and find cards.
I downloaded OCTGN and all the sets/pics off these sites:
http://www.dse.nl/~mtgie/
http://www.arrian.nl/Magic/
But I can't seem to get it to work. I followed the instructions about opening the program and changing the file name to 'cards.mbd' or whatever and its not working. How do I do it? Otherwise what is a better or easier program to use.
Does anyone still play?
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EDIT- I found pics for almost every common set (besides the promo and rare sets) except TSP (timespiral). This is not to be confused with TSB which is also timespiral:time shifted. Does anyone know where to find full sets like the ones I posted on page 3?
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Way back in the day when I played, I used Apprentice, dunno if that's still floating around.
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I used to use Apprentice and Netdraft to play online draft (too poor to actually buy cards). link
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That link is just an evaluation version with some link to buy the full version and its not up to date, latest set they have is 10th and Future Sight.
edit- how do i get card pictures for this?
The only thing I like about this program is how it lets you search cards when deck building. Ex; type in goblin, or red, which sets, mana costs, etc.
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I think I stopped playing this around 5th edition/Ice Age i can't remember.
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Canada9720 Posts
i think i've got 4 wrath of gods in my box somewhere. hopefully i didn't let my thieving friend sell them
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On May 15 2008 03:35 omgbnetsux wrote:
Terror > Dark Banishing.
< Diabolic Edict
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United States37500 Posts
On May 15 2008 03:37 CTStalker wrote:
i think i've got 4 wrath of gods in my box somewhere. hopefully i didn't let my thieving friend sell them
lol, can't be the two that I know right? 
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afaik Magic WorkStation (MWS) is the most used program for online play, but it doesn't have an "encyplopedia" mode, just the whole database of printed cards. just google it or go to magic-league.com, they usually have the latest patch for it.
I really don't know which of the 2 is nerdier, but Magic does require playskill, and testing against other decks might not fit.
btw, I'm qualified for the Italian National Championship
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On May 15 2008 03:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:< Diabolic Edict
You've lost me.
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actually, there is a better program to use to play against friends online. i have it at home, but i will give you name of the program later, or better yet, pm me.
if you wanna play against me with decks you HAVE in real life, instead of making dream deck online~~ pm me.
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starcraft is nerdy?...hum...
I dunno why im here, never played MTG sorry ;p
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I get the impression that playing M:TG has a nerdier image too. Cards games seem more popular in Japan since they so many.
That's too bad because MTG is such a great game. Best card game I've ever played on PC and console (dreamcast version). The possible strategies are overwelming.
Offtopic, does anyone know of any good emulated\ds strategy card games? Card Fighters & Pokemon Card game didn't cut it for me.
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I play MTG: Online. 
Great fun game, yesyes
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
wtf force of will for $14.
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I use MWS, never had problems with it and it was really good.
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Ah... I still have a Blue/Black deck with Diabolic Edict/Bone Shredder/Dark Banishing/Terror and a few Prodigal Sorcerors and a buttload of Counter Spells.
The idea was to ensure that my opponent had nothing.
Good times.
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Charlie, if you figure out how to play it online. You should let me know, I'd be glad to try you out. I used to play MTG all the time when I was younger.
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On May 15 2008 08:38 thedeadhaji wrote:
wtf force of will for $14.
Makes me wish I hadn't ditched all of mine a few moves ago...
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slivers were deadly strong T_T
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yea Magic Work Station is the shiat.
I haven't played in a while.... Lose all your cards and it's no fun starting over ^_^
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yeah, MWS is good
my brother was still drafting and playing casually up to a few months ago
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On May 15 2008 05:13 kyjori wrote:
actually, there is a better program to use to play against friends online. i have it at home, but i will give you name of the program later, or better yet, pm me.
if you wanna play against me with decks you HAVE in real life, instead of making dream deck online~~ pm me.
All my cards are old so our decks might be incompatible unless you have some older decks too. I usually just throw together some mini combo speed deck or some shit anyways. Never liked playing the uber copied pro decks because its boring.
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Played it in high school/college. Started at Mirage/Visions and ended around weatherlight/tempset (I think). When I started, standard was set at the 4th edition with a 5th edition coming in, now its at 10th? wow
Too much investment on making actual decks. But I would play any (free or cracked) emulation programs anytime. Can anyone recommend a good emulation program (something like those YugiOh programs)?
*Will check out the other programs already listed later
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Ive wanted to get into this in person so bad its just that i cant find anyone that will play and i get called a nerd by everyone ive asked lol
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On May 15 2008 21:12 Zeller wrote:
Ive wanted to get into this in person so bad its just that i cant find anyone that will play and i get called a nerd by everyone ive asked lol
Jake, ur a nerd! LOLOL <3 u bro.
Yeah, I wanted to give this game a try but no one will teach me.  That's my excuse.
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On May 15 2008 09:33 Lhyviathan wrote:Ah... I still have a Blue/Black deck with Diabolic Edict/Bone Shredder/Dark Banishing/Terror and a few Prodigal Sorcerors and a buttload of Counter Spells. The idea was to ensure that my opponent had nothing. Good times.
I had a card called "Leviathan" rofl 10/10 :D
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Dang. I was addicted to MGS back in the day. But lost interest as its difficult to find people who want to play. I will download that MWS prog. Is anybody interested in playing?
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On May 15 2008 05:13 kyjori wrote:
actually, there is a better program to use to play against friends online. i have it at home, but i will give you name of the program later, or better yet, pm me.
if you wanna play against me with decks you HAVE in real life, instead of making dream deck online~~ pm me.
worthless, .From: kyjori Subject: Re: yoyo, send program! Date: 5/16/08 02:17 magic workstation. google it. it comes with magic workstation online where u duel ppl online on their servers its pretty cool freeware also ----------------------------------------- yoyo send program! Original Message: MTG! http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71400
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Osaka27151 Posts
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
The thing I liked about Magic was that it was like BW, but with thousands of races rather than three, and the balancing was left up to the player. There are a lot of parallels in the two games.
Anyone have a mox?
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i played 1997-2000 from 9 to 12 y/o
got these cards on the front of my collection, i got some decks with even more kewl cards, wont bother to bring em out tho
2 4th edition Birds of paradise
2 5th edition birds of paradise
Sol Ring
mox diamond
tolarian academy
vampiric tutor (visage)
2 force of will
i think they are worht at least a bit of cash, been thinking bout sellin em, they are all in mint condition
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On May 15 2008 08:38 thedeadhaji wrote:
wtf force of will for $14.
sweet i got 28bux right there
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www.magic-league.com has great tutorials on how to use apprentice, and MWS, and is a great league to play in aswell, if you are interested in that.
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On May 15 2008 09:36 EmeraldSparks wrote:
MWS.
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On May 16 2008 10:22 shavingcream66 wrote:
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
i cast Carpal tunnel sydrone. Target: Nada
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On May 16 2008 11:18 Butigroove wrote:www.magic-league.com has great tutorials on how to use apprentice, and MWS, and is a great league to play in aswell, if you are interested in that.
Thanks a lot. Does anyone know any other site or forum to play against other people (preferably using MWS?)
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Isn't MWS the one where you can host public games and people join them?
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On May 16 2008 14:27 Demoninja wrote:
Isn't MWS the one where you can host public games and people join them?
MWS has two dedicated servers
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
Belive it or not ive played the game on and off up till somewhere around the time tempest maybe it was.But I started with alpha back in High school sold all my cards right after arabian knights and then started agian then had my cards stolen T_T all my side boards and main decks and i hade alot.I never played after that getting them stolen was the last blow,I was so pissed some one broke into my car while i worked.
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I buy the occasional pack sometime if they're cheap... for nostalgia purposes and inspiration. So magical!
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On May 16 2008 10:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
The thing I liked about Magic was that it was like BW, but with thousands of races rather than three, and the balancing was left up to the player. There are a lot of parallels in the two games.
Anyone have a mox?
Affinity was as, if not more, dominant. That was a few years ago.
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tolarian was the most dominant deck ever, but all of the cards got restricted or banned
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Taiche
France1963 Posts
Played a lot from 1995 (Revised) to ~1999 (I stopped after some Urza's extension). My favourite deck was one I made myself which was 5-color based on white using lots of small creatures + Empyrial Armor (1WW, Enchant Creature, the enchanted creature gets +X/+X where X is the number of cards in your hand) + Armageddon + small creatures + instant damage. When things went fine, the opponent would get hit by an 8/8 White Knight 3rd turn or 7/7 Tundra Wolves :D
Worked very well against many decks, except for Sliver decks.
On May 16 2008 10:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
Like tiffany said, the Tolarian Academy deck was imba. When used correctly, you could win 2nd turn, with an average of 4th turn wins : http://forum.tcgplayer.com/archive/index.php/t-15715.html (watch for Stelthjet's post) The idea was to play all alone for like 10 minutes while generating enough mana to force the opponent to draw too many cards. It was awesome to see it being played when it appeared :D
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On May 16 2008 16:49 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 10:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
The thing I liked about Magic was that it was like BW, but with thousands of races rather than three, and the balancing was left up to the player. There are a lot of parallels in the two games.
Anyone have a mox? Affinity was as, if not more, dominant. That was a few years ago.
And do not forget PT Tinker.
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On May 16 2008 10:22 shavingcream66 wrote:
awesome!
Savior and Bisu need that card more than ever against their opponents.
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I still have like 2000 MTG cards :o
but only the oldschool ones. not the fancy new cards with extra features T_T
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IIRC, in the past one of the servers didn't work so it technically only had one server.
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On May 16 2008 17:31 Taiche wrote:Played a lot from 1995 (Revised) to ~1999 (I stopped after some Urza's extension). My favourite deck was one I made myself which was 5-color based on white using lots of small creatures + Empyrial Armor (1WW, Enchant Creature, the enchanted creature gets +X/+X where X is the number of cards in your hand) + Armageddon + small creatures + instant damage. When things went fine, the opponent would get hit by an 8/8 White Knight 3rd turn or 7/7 Tundra Wolves :D Worked very well against many decks, except for Sliver decks. Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 10:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
Like tiffany said, the Tolarian Academy deck was imba. When used correctly, you could win 2nd turn, with an average of 4th turn wins : http://forum.tcgplayer.com/archive/index.php/t-15715.html (watch for Stelthjet's post) The idea was to play all alone for like 10 minutes while generating enough mana to force the opponent to draw too many cards. It was awesome to see it being played when it appeared :D
I like how he mentioned High Tide and Palinchron infinite mana combo... I used to do that. Such a cheap tactic. There was a way to do that with a green deck as well, I don't remember how though.
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My favorite deck was 2land belcher. Average two turn win, one if you get lucky.
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On May 16 2008 10:21 Manifesto7 wrote:
I played from Unlimited through the necropotence era, and stopped shortly thereafter. Has there been a deck since that has been so dominant?
The thing I liked about Magic was that it was like BW, but with thousands of races rather than three, and the balancing was left up to the player. There are a lot of parallels in the two games.
Anyone have a mox?
Check Out the Affinity Artifact 'Ravager' deck from 2004.
lol, i guess I spoke too soon. late.
PS- The only thing really imba is the randomness of lands, sometimes you just get mana fucked or you just draw too many no matter if your ratio is perfect or not. Me and my friend were just talking about this. One way to solve this would be to just come into the game with a land counter of each type of lands in your deck and you could just draw 4 cards and take 3 counters out or whatever combo you wanted. And every turn instead of drawing a card you could take a land counter off to play a land.
The problem with this of course though is that once you have the lands you need you won't ever draw them again until you are running out of cards or whatever, but its the same for everyone so its debateable.
Anyways, If anyone wanna dl pics for most the cards check this link (they work for MWS too) http://www.mwsdata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=413
I recommend the full versions not the cropped.
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
I've picked up Magic again about 1.5 months ago, after having 'quit' (apparently not) for about 8 years. Played it from my 11th till I was about 15, started out at Ice Age/4th Edition/Homelands/Alliances, played till Mercadian Masques and quit. 21 sets later and I'm back!
It's a very fun game, the diversity in strategies is just amazing, too bad about the nerdy image it has (I play it in a games-shop nowadays with some of my friends, and alot of the people frequenting that place are... weird, to say the least) and some of the retarded abilities that WotC seems to come up with to keep the game interesting, like Bushido.
But nowadays the metagame became pretty fun, I like the whole tribal thing they've got going on (though it took some time getting used to... and I hated it at first) where every creature has one of about 10-15 types that work together and form a theme, rogues, faeries, merfolk, treefolk, scarecrow etc. which makes alot more sense than the 'every creature has its own creaturetype except goblins and elves' situation.
Dominant decks include:
Life from the Loam-based decks: return lands from your graveyard to your hand and play them again, think of lands with sacrifice-effects like Strip Mine which allows you to kill one of your opponent's lands every turn, and creatures that get bigger the more lands are in your graveyard, and good old Armageddon.
Dreadstill decks, also known as stiflenaught: Play something big like a Phyrexian Dreadnaught, coupled with Stifle so you can just play it without the drawback, drop a Standstill, an enchantment that dies as soon as a spell is played by anyone, giving the other player 3 cards, and just hammer away, coupled with some control-cards (force of will, sensei's divining top/counterbalance combo) to get rid of the truly dangerous stuff.
Various stormcombo decks: Storm is an ability that creates a copy of a spell once it's played, for every other spell that was played this turn. The catch is that it doesn't require any specific kind of spell, so popular combo's are High Tide, with lots of 'untap X lands' and 'Draw X cards' cards that allow you to churn out a 20-30 card combo, build a rediculous stormcount and play a card that removes the top 3 cards from your opponent's library which is then copied a million times. Or a dragonstorm deck, dragonstorm being a card that allows you to put a dragon into play for each cast, coupled with Rite of Flame and Seething Song (basically, red versions of dark ritual) this can lead to a turn 1 kill pretty often.
The good old Urza's Saga Academydeck: Tolarian Academy is a land which gives 1 blue mana for each artifact in play, coupled with a card called Mind over Matter which allows you to discard a card from your hand to tap or untap any permanent in play, coupled with a card called Stroke of Genius which allows you to draw (or force your opponent to draw) X cards. Draw 20+ cards with a stroke, untap your academy 20 times and force your opponent to draw 100+ cards, winning your game.
Affinity decks: Affinity is a mechanic that was introduced in the Mirrodin block, which made cards that had the property cheaper, the more artifacts you had in play. Basically, after a while, everything you could ever want to play became free. Affinity was pretty dominant in all types of tourneys but in my opinion it's pretty outdated now and doesn't hold up as well.
whoo
Long story, but to answer your question I'll echo the dominant statement in this thread: Get MWS. The trial version is just as good as the 'normal' version, the only difference (afaik) is the lack of avatar/customizable background. I'd love to play anyone in here on MWS, just drop a PM or reply here! =)
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I found pics for almost every common set (besides the promo and rare sets) except TSP (timespiral). This is not to be confused with TSB which is also timespiral:time shifted. Does anyone know where to find full sets like the ones I posted on page 3?
nevermind, they put up a rapidshare link to it in that thread.
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