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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 23 2008 21:08 GMT
#861
yea but even i fail with qop x.x, shes actually one of my worse heroes. i prefer last hitting with lina over qop =(
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 23 2008 21:15 GMT
#862
its not really that im putting you guys down or anything. but none of you have experience (or from what i know) of playing real competitive dota. so you can't really say you can own a lot of good/decent teams because pub and ih games are a lot different
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Doktorian
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden9 Posts
August 23 2008 21:35 GMT
#863
Yesss I also think we need to just play you guys, just gather a team... Testie's online like 18/7 anyway so it won't be hard to find him xD

oh btw i'm a better meepo than testie <-- true story
Is it cos i is black?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 23 2008 21:36 GMT
#864
ive played in ihcs 2 for a few months o.O, honestly its not but so different than our games when all of our good people are on. Ive played in games with and against players from top teams, not in official clan matches, but each player there is by no means bad. The problem with most of our games that we play with TL is that we only have 4-5 good players on, and the rest are still newish/not nearly as good, so they get abused by the good players on both teams and sometimes scores are overinflated.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 23 2008 21:42 GMT
#865
alv, is testie heen lonery and lefnaij all a lot better than you?
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 23 2008 21:48 GMT
#866
depends on which aspect of the game o.O, i would say it goes like this. Lonery/heen > bdares/testie/jf > me/sj/devaz/darkcell/ cats as a carry > rest. alot of our new players are really far behind mechanically.

Testie obviously is really good solo, but i think i am a far better dual laner than him in support hero play. He plays a good carry. Lonery/heen play very well all around, jf plays a good carry, bdares plays really well with caster heroes.

We all excel in different areas, testie likes map control, i like team fights and controlling how fights turn out.

In my opinion, I would say no, they are not "a lot" better than me, but in an overall game ability, they are better than me.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 23 2008 22:12 GMT
#867
Draaaama, I do wanna see testie/jf playing against a real team though. Reps plz.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 22:18:56
August 23 2008 22:14 GMT
#868
o shi
doubting my support and dual lane ability. O shi I never dual lane so that's an unfair assessment!
I'll ward bitch if you fuckers put JF on my team, I can't trust other people to carry against him.
I think we beat people in every area tbh, it's just we are always forced to play against eachother and we can't watch other carries, while decent, they always farm relatively slower and not have the same level of dominance.

and nah I think i've reached heen / lonery's level and surpassed them with some heros, while I could still learn more from them with other heros. Example: I never go to top lane in scourge, and I would need to learn how to imba top lane like lonery does with imba creep pulling and gaining extra EXP.
A great example of this is the last time I played medusa vs heens SF he got kinda wanked and outcarried, but yet if we had a silencer vs silencer battle, I am completely sure I would get dominated. I would hold my own and do ok, but he would pull away, and eventually win. His movement with silencer makes no sense, . (again please bare in mind it's just an example and we could turn the tables and mention the 200-350 MS he experiences).
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
August 23 2008 22:25 GMT
#869
Well, that's because you're really bad with silencer.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 23 2008 22:30 GMT
#870
is L = lolpatrolx = lonery?

im kinda so confused haha
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 22:33:45
August 23 2008 22:33 GMT
#871
Yes, that'll do nicely.

...

Yet its false.

I'm Lolpatrolx, not Lonery.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 23 2008 22:48 GMT
#872
Lonery is heen's friend, a reallly good korean player. ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 23 2008 22:51 GMT
#873
O_o
So many misunderstandings...

I posted that meepo rep as fun hence the ' here's my tda meepo glory ' TDA is tda, just a glorified pub. The two DotA threads here at TL are for fun and its cool to see so many people taking an interest in the game.

I appreciate anyone who said anything for me but its really not necessary. Tbh the only times I play TLnet ggc games is when my friends aren't on vent or I'm alone. I already have a close community to play dota with, similar to the TLnet regulars, therefore why go out of my way to play by myself? I hope you guys can understand this. And I will definitely accept the general opinion that people have voiced about me in TL inhouse games. I come to play for fun with some people I know through TL, that's it. There's no incentive for me to play dota all 100% serious anymore, the game is simply for fun no leagues no pressure.

As for the personal attacks, I don't see a need for that either. Because in the end it would just be a big brag-fest with no results. I mean, I guess you could say you have a team, Testie [ jf + friends ] but atm I don't really have a set team of people that would play with me for that sole reason. Sure, I could probably grab a bunch of higher level north american players that I know through previous games but that would be a big hassle, and to be honest I don't want to waste time trying to explain to them why I'm playing a bo3 with ' mym.testie ' [ I guess not mym anymore? ]

And sure we could play out a game and save the rep and whoever won would be brag-king for life on TL but I mean do you really want to do that? All I want to point out is that I took a bunch of nobodies [ in dota ] and took them to average-upper level leagues and got results. I don't even prefer to play carry or solo roles yet some of my heroes could keep up with the top north american players. What do you have to show? Its not like you + others don't have the time to make teams yourselves and try to get results. Unlike you I would have something to show for my braggings.

So in the end this has been all a bunch of misunderstandings. I never claimed I was better than anyone or such. I play TL dota when I wanna play and I'm by myself, otherwise I play with vent friends. I try to win of course but I don't try 100% and do preparations beforehand like I used to in leagues when we played known/good teams.

I honestly just like giving out advice about dota, and its not like I'm forcing anyone to take it.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
August 24 2008 02:30 GMT
#874
The whole point of this is?

Who cares about level lol, it's supposed to be fun.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 24 2008 03:55 GMT
#875
Word. Simply put though Alventine, I learned to play DotA in a very similar environment to TL's in houses, we had 2 good TDA players, 3 IHCS (old IHCS during the coL days) players and 3 people who started soon but picked up fast. Our in houses were essentially the IHCS players going for Aegis Rapier by 40 mins EVERY game with EVERY hero and then repeating that by 60. I was one of the 3 newbs, and until I pugged a scrim with the 3 IHCS players, I had Testie's mentality. And until I joined ack's team I thought I knew how to play DotA. This is why I have a problem with Testie in this thread.

Testie, your CS remarks are so indicative of the game level you play at (which isn't that high), for comparison sakes, KS.yamateh's, SK.Loda's and MYM|Maelk's SFs get about 300-400 CS in a 60+ min game and that's with a generous amount of farm time especially in yamateh's games. For you to be getting your CS, you have to not only play against horrible players, but also to neglect team fights. Against decent teams (i.e.- good US teams not named x6 or Shakens), you will never have that luxury, even against the relatively subpar US scene.

And one last thing, there wasn't any SINGLE thing that was great about ack's screenshot, look at the big picture, 37 mins, then the items, then the CS+Neutral, then the level, and finally the k/d. The combination that makes it an impressive screenshot even against subpar players.
Get it by your hands...
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-24 04:22:19
August 24 2008 04:06 GMT
#876
The point is I thought somebody who I know wasn't that good was bragging and bragged over him and in going further into the pissing contest I made an ass out of myself but also showed Judicator what a moron he is, while ack posted in a fairly polite manner considering my abrasive and obnoxious tone and diffused said situation while throwing some barbs (well deserved) my way.

In the end I can't really continue the shit talk without a more motivational post to continue said shit talk, so it does not look like any interesting grudge match will come out of it unless that pussy Judicator steps up to the plate.

And as I was saying, none of those factors are remotely impressive to a meepo player of my caliber Judicator. Hence, come play us.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 24 2008 04:39 GMT
#877
yeah, im not doubting testie at all. he is a very good player, it's just that i think you should then move on into a more competitive scene if you really think you can take it.

im pretty sure testie can solo against people even in higher level games. i've observed him play and his last hitting skills are really good.

but strategy wise, and just in general team play, if you guys do go up against a team of high level, i honestly think they would destroy you.

but that's just as of now. obviously you guys have hella potential in dota, and if you wanted to take it seriously i think you guys can go pretty far.

i would become a fan of TLDOTA hah

and judicator, you said something about "(i.e.- good US teams not named x6 or Shakens)"

are you saying that x6 and shakens aren't good? or those are the kind of teams they should play against? shakens kicks ass i've played with a lot of them before. i forget who it was, maybe it was miraclechipmunk, but someone from shakens has a fucking sick sick sick chen
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
August 24 2008 04:43 GMT
#878
btw, anyone have a replay of heen and lonery? cuz i dont think i've ever played with them, i wanna see ;D

do they play for any leagues? or have they played competitively?
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 24 2008 05:00 GMT
#879
Heen played competitively i'm pretty sure. I do not know in what, or he just had a team to play with. I think he talked about some korean WCG tournament perhaps, I am not sure.
Lonery was on Heen's team. They were on the same team as Giom (the Starcraft one), and now Heen plays for xD. I think though I am not sure how often he plays for his team etc.
Lonery I don't know what he does now, he hardly plays with us anymore and has been MIA for a while. But of all the players I have played with on this forum I don't think I can rank them in order of no.1 no.2 no.3 due to the many different situations dota gives. I'd love to say I am better than Heen, but tbh I have never played him in fair circumstances and I find it impressive that he can even be in the same lane as me with 250 - 350+ ping.

I have a tonne of replays against lonery and probably quite a few against Heen though I think I have played with him significantly less despite playing with him very often at first back when he was showing us the ropes when we started out.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 24 2008 05:02 GMT
#880
JF wants to get competitive in dota tbh, and despite starting dota for the exact reason to get away from competition because tbh I disliked it, I realized I only disliked it in the former game. I'm feeling very eager about getting competitive into a new game, because I still don't know everything about dota and there's so more information to learn which is always interesting.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
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