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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
April 12 2008 09:55 GMT
#381
On April 12 2008 16:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
some questions, in the center lane, sometimes a blood red spot will appear then disappear, what is it?

I've seen some replays of snipers going scattershot early and guinsoo, wtf?

Is there a program that let's you see which heroes are in a replay, their kill/deaths, gold farmed, etc. Like on the dota-allstars replay site?

In a couple LoH Tb replays, I see him going two crystalises, why?


Thank you

2 crys is statisticly better than a buriza
so if you plan to end the game before it will come back to bite you i guess its good?

especially on an illusion hero like terrorblade

I would rather have +agi and one buriza (very late) on a terrorblade thought personally, since the +damage from crys doesnt help much.

also, item slots on TB is hard to do, since lots of people go 484686x wraiths
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 12 2008 16:28 GMT
#382
The blood red spot, I'm going to assume you just killed someone and it's the rune insignia to show that someone died there. If I'm wrong, then...?? o.O

Sniper going Scatter, you know they'll be ricing all game.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 12 2008 16:46 GMT
#383
The blood red spot is from the item bloodstone. If you read the item it says you heal your allies and still get xp and vision from the area in which you died.

Snipers who go early guinsoo and scattershot now, or even previously did so because assassinate used to be a 5 second cooldown so mana regen disabler sniper was viable. People who do so now, either saw it in older replays, suck, or are higher level players who have to play the disable on their team since nobody else can.

LoH goes two crystals because he can do whatever the fuck he wants, and because it gives you better damage gain early rather than finishing buriza. TB is about finishing the game mid to late not EXTREME late game.

You're welcome.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 12 2008 17:29 GMT
#384
OH
LOL
I just got pawned.
QQ...
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
April 12 2008 19:40 GMT
#385
Added some updates to my replay blog.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=68666

Two quick games here, perfect for ADD users imo.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
April 12 2008 19:49 GMT
#386
On April 10 2008 16:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ah ok thanks. Can anyone tell me more about Zhaoyun and Mr.Lucifer? They appear regularly in IHCS and are probably the best Chinese players although neither of them live in China.


Zhaoyun is aka enigma formerly of XsK
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-12 20:20:40
April 12 2008 20:19 GMT
#387
meh, bad calculations, nvm
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 13 2008 09:22 GMT
#388
Can you guys give me some tips as to how to farm better? When I play with friends they always say I'm a slow farmer and shouldn't play dps. But I lasthit decent I think, I can usually get all creeps if I'm alone, 100 by 30min, etc. But when I'm only farming I rarely join in fights and tp to save towers, etc. I think my problem is I have bad awareness and die too much or doesn't get enough free kills early game with dps. What are some tips as to how I can improve? Also, when do I get bot before the dps stuff and when to just go straight dps stuff? Thanks
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
April 13 2008 09:57 GMT
#389
You're asking questions that don't really have straight up answers I'm afraid.

How to farm better:
1) You should be aware of 5 enemy dots on your minimap pretty much at all times, don't rely on teammates to tell you when their lane leaves. Especially the lane next to yours.

2) If you're soloing, you should try to lane against their solo in almost all situations (potm/qop good examples where it doesn't matter).

3) RUNES - Make sure your team goes to rune spots every 2 minutes.

4) Practice last hitting when you're alone. Can you get every creep when there's no enemy with you? Do you have enough experience to know when two creeps are dying at the same speed, you need to kill one first and then go after the other while still making sure to last hit each. This gets even harder with enemies trying to deny, and then good enemies who use their attack animation to their advantage.. striking their creeps twice before you can react to get a deny. etc etc. It becomes almost a mindgame in a good solo matchup.

The biggest tip for me, though, is just experience. If you can't feel yourself getting ganked before it happens, you're probably not focusing enough on the game and its too hard for you to last hit effectively and do both.

Creep markers for a solo lane should look something like this:
*20 minutes*
Average- 50
Good - 75
Really good - 100
Travka with Necrolyte - 130? =[

*60 minutes*
Average - 250
Good - 300
Really good - 350
Maelk with Shadow Fiend - 450? =[

Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
April 13 2008 10:19 GMT
#390
i acknowledge fzero's qop with no ss is very viable

>__<
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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
April 13 2008 11:48 GMT
#391
On April 13 2008 18:57 FzeroXx wrote:
You're asking questions that don't really have straight up answers I'm afraid.

How to farm better:
1) You should be aware of 5 enemy dots on your minimap pretty much at all times, don't rely on teammates to tell you when their lane leaves. Especially the lane next to yours.

2) If you're soloing, you should try to lane against their solo in almost all situations (potm/qop good examples where it doesn't matter).

3) RUNES - Make sure your team goes to rune spots every 2 minutes.

4) Practice last hitting when you're alone. Can you get every creep when there's no enemy with you? Do you have enough experience to know when two creeps are dying at the same speed, you need to kill one first and then go after the other while still making sure to last hit each. This gets even harder with enemies trying to deny, and then good enemies who use their attack animation to their advantage.. striking their creeps twice before you can react to get a deny. etc etc. It becomes almost a mindgame in a good solo matchup.

The biggest tip for me, though, is just experience. If you can't feel yourself getting ganked before it happens, you're probably not focusing enough on the game and its too hard for you to last hit effectively and do both.

Creep markers for a solo lane should look something like this:
*20 minutes*
Average- 50
Good - 75
Really good - 100
Travka with Necrolyte - 130? =[

*60 minutes*
Average - 250
Good - 300
Really good - 350
Maelk with Shadow Fiend - 450? =[



Strafe with SF 60 minute 600CS ez
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 13 2008 17:51 GMT
#392
Maelk is also playing against higher tier players who don't let him farm as much as we are allowed to farm though.
So that's not a very fair comparison now is it. ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
April 13 2008 18:05 GMT
#393
strafe sux at dota
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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
April 13 2008 20:19 GMT
#394
OH YEAH PAPER?
WELL YOU
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 13 2008 20:37 GMT
#395
*paused* (so strafe has enough time to think of his next words against paper)
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
April 13 2008 20:50 GMT
#396
just isnt true;( im not so bad

i just lose cuz of pewpew
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 13 2008 22:17 GMT
#397
iunno how I am known as the farmer
Pew farms in jungle every game for 50 mins lol
wtfux
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
April 13 2008 23:53 GMT
#398
On April 14 2008 07:17 MYM.Testie wrote:
iunno how I am known as the farmer
Pew farms in jungle every game for 50 mins lol
wtfux


well there's a farmer, that being you.
and then there's someone who farms the entire game and still only has boots of travel and wraith bands, need i say who?
@QxGDarkCell ._.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 14 2008 10:31 GMT
#399
So a friend wants to 1v1 me with the same hero, the rule is whoever dies three times or loses 2 towers loses the game. Which hero should I pick or does it matter? Are these rules dumb?
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 14 2008 11:27 GMT
#400
shadow fiend, or broodmother if he sucks.
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