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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 15 2009 19:46 GMT
#1981


bestmatchevar
And all is illuminated.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 02:46:55
January 16 2009 01:28 GMT
#1982
It finally happened, I got a Japanese stick. Bought this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=196704197

and this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=196720826

Namco PS2 Arcade stick and GGXX #R. Get hype for dat stick execution practise. Oh, and I sent my memory card off to a friend to get it hacked so I can play jp games. :o

Oh, and I played about 9-10 games of CvS2 on DC against a friend. That was fun.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2009 01:58 GMT
#1983
well, I hope you 'll mod this stick with better parts!

it'll be infinitely better. Also I heard it is not too hard to do. Except maybe the stick itself. But changing the buttons for seimitsu ones is very easy.
And all is illuminated.
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
January 16 2009 02:12 GMT
#1984
So I just watched the 1up game night featuring SRK members on the console version of SF4....

Sagat can apparently break in-game environments (like a plane's wing). He's totally nerfed alright.
Contact me via the following: Twitter: @notginseng | Discord: Ginseng#9638
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
January 16 2009 02:18 GMT
#1985
Yeah, I'll probably mod it. Not immediately because I want to get used to it, but after I find out what buttons my arcade has.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 03:23:18
January 16 2009 03:19 GMT
#1986
Grats on the stick H, genei jin combos and eddie mixup chains feel like pure sex on a stick, no matter the parts. Changing the buttons definitely will increase hit confirm execution though, it did for me. Do love them seimitsus.

edit: Happy 100th page fighting game thread
My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
January 16 2009 07:09 GMT
#1987
I'm thinking of getting the regular fight stick and modding it with seimitsu stuff and maybe adding cthulu board later if need be
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 12:21:54
January 16 2009 12:12 GMT
#1988
IIRC the Namco stick was pretty solid even without modding, I know I played just fine on those things whenever I had the chance to play on them. Felt better than, say, a US T5 Hori.

Also I don't know good midscreen combos with Mai in EFZ, sadlife.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 19:22:19
January 16 2009 19:18 GMT
#1989
So I just learned a lot about Baroque cancels in TvC. They're actually quite intricate. :O

+ Show Spoiler [msn convo] +

.\mike says (1:46 PM):
baroque only eats your red life. no super cost
Bill says (1:53 PM):
ohhhh
Bill says (1:53 PM):
okay, thanks
Bill says (1:53 PM):
does the amount of red life you lose affect it?
Bill says (1:54 PM):
e.g. does it last longer if it eats more red life?
Bill says (1:54 PM):
and is there a minimum amount of red life you have to have to use it?
Bill says (1:55 PM):
otherwise, seems like if you have only a sliver of red life, you should use Baroque liberally.
.\mike says (1:59 PM):
oh ok
.\mike says (1:59 PM):
here's how baroque works
.\mike says (1:59 PM):
you can activate when you have any amount of red life
.\mike says (2:00 PM):
it lasts until you attack/end a combo
.\mike says (2:00 PM):
the amount of red life affects how much damage your normal combo attacks do.
.\mike says (2:00 PM):
so if you have a sliver or red and do a combo, you'll do tiny damage during the baroque
.\mike says (2:00 PM):
conversely with large amounts of red
Bill says (2:02 PM):
ohhhhh
Bill says (2:02 PM):
so that's why when Brett went Baroque with PTX in one of those videos, his jabs did HUUUUUGE damage
.\mike says (2:02 PM):
yea omg
Bill says (2:02 PM):
I assume supers aren't affected, though?
Bill says (2:02 PM):
what about specials?
.\mike says (2:02 PM):
yea they are not
.\mike says (2:03 PM):
specials yes
.\mike says (2:03 PM):
they get a static damage boost
.\mike says (2:03 PM):
so like, if you do a small red baroque combo, you may want to super finish
.\mike says (2:03 PM):
but if you have huge red, you would want to do an air combo instead
Bill says (2:03 PM):
yeah
Bill says (2:03 PM):
so I guess Baroque is most useful when you have only 1 guy left
Bill says (2:04 PM):
'cause you'll never be able to heal
Bill says (2:04 PM):

.\mike says (2:04 PM):
yeah.
Bill says (2:04 PM):
I wonder if I can do something with Morrigan like...

2A 2B 2C Baroque 5C 3C air combo

which should do huge damage if Morrigan has a lot of red life
Bill says (2:05 PM):
hmmm so I guess my opponent in that situation would want to Mega Crush?
Bill says (2:05 PM):
do you know what the exact properties of Mega Crush are, e.g. why does it seem to consume different amounts of life?
.\mike says (2:05 PM):
yea that's what I'm thinking
.\mike says (2:06 PM):
i don't know about that actually
.\mike says (2:06 PM):
I thought it was a set amount
Bill says (2:06 PM):
so the conditions for a BIG DMG Baroque combo would be:
1. lots of red life
2. opponent has < 2 supers
.\mike says (2:06 PM):
yeah
.\mike says (2:06 PM):
but that's for a combo extend baroque
.\mike says (2:06 PM):
you can use baroque to save your life
.\mike says (2:07 PM):
like you do a special move and the opponent starts a semi slow super
Bill says (2:07 PM):
I can see that being useful against someone who has a team where one character is a lot more fearsome than the other, since it'd be beneficial for me to have one character on the verge of death (esp. if it's Karas, who's my weaker character imo) if it kills their better character...
.\mike says (2:07 PM):
you can baroque cancel and block
Bill says (2:07 PM):
ahhh
Bill says (2:07 PM):
so you can empty-cancel into baroque?
.\mike says (2:08 PM):
um yes? empty cancel is what
.\mike says (2:08 PM):
idle?
Bill says (2:08 PM):
I mean, a move whiffs but you can still cancel it
.\mike says (2:08 PM):
yea
Bill says (2:08 PM):
okay
Bill says (2:08 PM):
cool
.\mike says (2:08 PM):
do a move and activate
.\mike says (2:08 PM):
normal or special
Bill says (2:09 PM):
wow, TvC's actually a pretty intricate game. seems like you have to take a lot of factors into consideration for decisions like when to Baroque to save yourself, or when to Baroque to do pressure (a la Morrigan), or when to Baroque to do huge damage, etc.
.\mike says (2:10 PM):
yea, I never use it outside of karas
Bill says (2:10 PM):
so if I do A-fireball Baroque with a sliver of red life, it will not scale down my attacks afterwards if I'm just dashing in, will it?
.\mike says (2:10 PM):
cuz I don't know when or how
Bill says (2:10 PM):
like, I assume that's why the char goes all rainbow: that's when the Baroque scaling is in effect, right?
.\mike says (2:10 PM):
I'm not really sure to be honest
.\mike says (2:11 PM):
I haven't tried it
Bill says (2:11 PM):
I thought it was just a good way to indicate clearly when a character has cancelled, lol
.\mike says (2:11 PM):
yea rainbow is they're in baroque mode
.\mike says (2:11 PM):
it'll stop glowing after you end the combo


Edit: also, character HPs:

.\mike says (2:20 PM):
MOST HEALTH

1.)Gold Lightan - 64,900 HP

2.)PTX-40A - 59,000 HP

3.)Daimao, Alex, and Tekkaman - 50,900 HP

4.)Souki - 49,000 HP

5.)Casshern - 47,200 HP

6.)Ryu, Polymar, Batsu, Doronjo - 45,500 HP

7.)V.Joe, Chun, Ippatsuman - 44,000 HP

8.)Ken, Jun, Morrigan, Saki - 42,600 HP

9.)Rock, Yatterman - 40,000 HP

10.)Roll - 38,200 HP

11.)Karas - 37,100 HP

LEAST HEALTH
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
January 16 2009 19:20 GMT
#1990
I just use Baroque like a free roman cancel in my Ryu/Polymer play :[

in other news I'm hardcore fixing up TvC's wiki.
My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
January 16 2009 19:29 GMT
#1991
Honestly, I think it's really cool that they came up with a game mechanic that utilizes the red life, in addition to healing while tagged out.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2009 20:16 GMT
#1992
what the fuck this can't be coincidence

romantic cancel
baroque cancel

what's next, avantgard cancel? modern cancel? renessaince cancel?
And all is illuminated.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
January 16 2009 20:51 GMT
#1993
My biggest problem with the Sanwa buttons at my arcade are the fact that you can breathe on them and it will set them off. I was throwing random pokes all over the place without even knowing how just because of the buttons. Took me a little while to figure it out. The worst offense featured me doing a full 12 hit combo when I intended to throw out a poke followed by a small Inferno Divider wallbounce combo. I like the sound of Seimitsu buttons, but I'll probably get Sanwa just because that's what I use at the arcade :o. Probably won't mod it for a while.

Gonna play a little bit of BB tomorrow then go to a casual little tourney hosted by the NZism dudes at one of their houses, where I will be crushed at MvC2, TvC, and HDR. But it'll be fun, and I'll get to try out TvC :o. Think I'll run Casshern/Ryu.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 20:56:51
January 16 2009 20:54 GMT
#1994
Is that a joke freelander? Avantgard Cancel sounds hot what about Information Cancel maybe thats too advanced.

Anyway I went around town today to be an ass and find random places to play games. After getting my fast food fix I went to some arcade place in Madeira Beach (zzz). I checked it out, it had like normal stuffs, and it had like DDR Supernova and Beatmania IIDX Happy Sky. Then I went back to the front to see random fgs. They had GGXX Slash, T5:DR and THORD STROKE. So I tested them out.

When my sister was playing DDR I hopped on the Slash cab and it was like a pretty big screen (My camera didnt work so I cant show you St. Pete poverty cabs) and the stick platform was a bit away from the screen. When I played it seemed okay to me, although the only thing I was doing was motions and random shit I mash on PC. Battop stick, concave buttons. I didn't think it was that bad. VS mode was Bo5 rounds me and sister mashed bridget mirror. Then later some dude came up and was like wanna play so i played him but it was zzz cause all i did was press buttons into sayakanniku vipah and GV shit I dunno anything else also random RCs into nothing are good too.

But when I got on Slash cab the first time, my sister got on the T5:DR setup and like a few minutes later she was kinda mad cause some of the buttons didn't work and the sticks were bleh. So I was like lol and wasted credits testing both sides (they were both ass lol) I couldn't even spam Asuka f+2 cause 2 was broke.... on 1p, and 3 was broke on 2p. lol I got a few matches in arcade mode before I was like THORD STROKE. Also it had the custom cards but w/e.

I tried thord stroke on this poverty american setup i guess. Wasn't that bad, shit came out, I could still demon. Only thing was I wasnt really used to american bat top so i would let go after dashing and then back dash cause it stuttered loool and then me and my sister played remy mirror. oh it was bo5 round too sick. Also on fridays the fighting games only cost like half credit so it was cool.

After that I was like only thing worth playin was slash so I did that a bit and mashed moves then played DDR cause it was like 2 player 1 game credit kind of deal. Then I failed at beatmania hardcore. Then I left for the chicago hotdog stand and walked around the beach before getting sick of the cold (it's not really cold to most of you other doods) and sand in my shoes.

Edit: O ya they said they had marvel but when I went they didnt so i was so sad i went oop aww outloud and stuff
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
January 16 2009 21:02 GMT
#1995
oop aww
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2009 21:05 GMT
#1996
On January 17 2009 05:54 SayaSP wrote:
Is that a joke freelander? Avantgard Cancel sounds hot what about Information Cancel maybe thats too advanced.


dead serious
is your sister good? my brother only plays racing games and my sister only play the sims ~~
And all is illuminated.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
January 16 2009 21:09 GMT
#1997
Saya's sister plays Halo 3 on a regular basis and beasts people. not even kidding
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 21:19:32
January 16 2009 21:14 GMT
#1998
She can only play charge characters though and she finally understood cancelling remy FK to SA2. Uhh, in Halo3 she sometimes doesn't think much about what she's doing, but her sense for staying alive was learned from me so usually her deaths are like 2/3rds less than the other individuals on her team and her aiming is pretty good now only thing she needs to work on is mental info kinda stuff (not that halo is particularly deep)
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2009 21:27 GMT
#1999
charging characters are cool
though remy is gay.

still it's better than a grab char
And all is illuminated.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
January 16 2009 21:36 GMT
#2000
Girls playing gay looking guy seems standard to me, I mean she plays Remy, Bridget and like well she plays Nina in tekken i guess that doesnt count
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
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