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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-25 23:45:16
November 25 2025 23:44 GMT
#21
On November 25 2025 02:59 stenole wrote:
"Should" is a very restrictive word that implies a dogmatic view of the genre. I think in general it seems like people have a very constrained view of what an RTS is or isn't. I think for BW specifically, tower rushes have enriched the game. It means that no matter how mapped out the game is, players can't be fully complacent and autopilot the early game.

More "modern" RTS games seem to struggle with cheese elements because mechanical execution plays a smaller part. It becomes a purely a build order vs build order situation where one person wins or loses where the only thing that can change anything is is one person is lacking game knowledge. It's a blind strategy win just like winning a round of rock-paper-scissors. Good developers will naturally make the changes to the game needed for these kinds of interactions not to happen, for example removing tower rushes. The game's inability to support it should signal a problem though. An RTS that is all about decisions is really just a pure strategy game.


To be fair, scouting with your worker is a distinctly "Blizzard" design element. If you think about it, it's not necessarily intuitive that a unit whose primary function is mining and building would have some of the faster movement speed in the game. In any game where this isn't the case, where workers/constructors move more slowly than military units, you proportionally nerf tower rushing. Also, the degree to which buildings and resource collection are dispersed across wider swaths of the map also affects viability of tower rushing.

Does designing away from tower rushing necessarily neuter early aggression? Not at all. It's just that in Blizzard games bases are distinctly built around highly concentrated resource distributions and builders move quickly. That definitely doesn't imply that any game that doesn't include tower rushing is less mechanically rewarding.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-30 23:54:11
November 30 2025 23:50 GMT
#22
Should a workers only cheese be viable? It isn't hard to imagine that being the question if towers were designed properly (ie only viable when used defensively) but worker rushing was viable due to some unintended game design choice that made workers stronger than combat units in certain scenarios.

So, as someone who has done more than their fair share of cannon rushing, the answer should be no. It really speaks to poor overall design that it happened to begin with and was unintended, and it is unintuitive.

It's not hard to design away from tower rushing. There are much better ways to get variety in gameplay than having people do things in an unintuitive fashion.

Harris1st
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Germany7358 Posts
December 01 2025 11:03 GMT
#23
I think tower rushing is a fun element and does for entertaining games. So yes.
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Manit0u
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Poland17829 Posts
January 05 2026 08:45 GMT
#24
On December 01 2025 20:03 Harris1st wrote:
I think tower rushing is a fun element and does for entertaining games. So yes.


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