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radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
December 23 2009 23:28 GMT
#13721
On December 23 2009 22:55 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
To L: Refuse to go to HoN, dealing with some people is just too stressful, sadfaice, enough of the dramallama.. Also I'm way for leisure play now, competitive play is too competitive. Plus, some pplz r 2 srs. wey 2 srs.



Plus, your computer is made of cardboard and radio transistors leftover from ww2 :<
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
December 24 2009 00:21 GMT
#13722
discuss our strats in priv
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 03:53:39
December 24 2009 01:37 GMT
#13723
6.65 is out

Any thoughts on this? At first glance the top picks/bans in 6.64 all got nerfed. Panda, Razor, Medusa, Sniper etc.

Also noteworthy is that DP got her movement speed buff back, but I don't see her as the 6.59d monster with the recent nerfs to Bloodstone and HoT.

Two new heroes introduced, to me the Murloc guy looks pretty underwhelming but the ice guy looks to be pretty powerful.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
December 24 2009 03:52 GMT
#13724
new muloc dude is fun =o
Vic.nQQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bulgaria88 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 04:46:10
December 24 2009 04:28 GMT
#13725
new map is awesome!

Best addition is TP query - the thing most top players noted as easiest "solution" to the so called "asian dota" phenomenon, because now you can't have your main carry solo somewhere and whenever he gets ganked your whole team TPs there and kills all gankers T_T. Now everyone teles 1 at a time, so ganking should be viable again = more exciting games to watch.

About the new heroes - I played some friendly games with them and I my 1st impressions are mixed:

Ancient Apparition
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Cold Feet:
Active

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The Apparition curses his foes with The Frozen Mark which will freeze enemies to the ground. Unless target enemy moves at least 740 away from the mark within 4 seconds he is frozen still.

Damage per second: 37.5/50/62.5/75
Stun duration if triggered: 1.25/2/2.75/3.5

Cooldown: 15/13/11/9
Manacost: 90
Target: Single

Note: Target takes damage per second until he is stunned or moves out of range.

This spell seems very useful, but MUST be used in combination with a stunner / slower from your team. Since this IS his best spell - single DoT-ish nuke and disable, he will pretty much HAVE to line with proper 2 or 3 line to actually work.


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Ice Vortex:
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Active

Gathers ancient frost energy into one area to create a small, immobile ice vortex at a location. Whenever enemies are near it, their movement speed and magical resistance are reduced.

Movement Reduction: 18/22/26/30
Magic Resistance: -10/15/20/25
AOE: 275

Duration: 12
Cooldown: 6
Manacost: 80/90/100/110

My opinion on this spell is rather mixed (just like of the hero itself ^^). There is rarely good situation to use this spell, yet some sick combos can be executed with it (Pugna's Decrepify anyone?), but really if you want to make it's potential full you need a hero like Dark Seer or Magnus to gather all ur enemies @ 1 place.
Low cooldown on the other hand allows for A LOT of spamming later in the game, which might prove to be extremely useful when chasing someone after a successful battle (or ofc running away after a failed one)

Note: Casting range is INSANE


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Chilling Touch:
Active
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Releases a gust of cold wind at a target area, enchanting allied heroes with bonus magical damage on their attacks. Lasts for a limited number of attacks up to a maximum of 40 seconds. While the enchanted heroes have this chilling touch, their attack speed is reduced by 15%.

Maximum number of attacks: 2/3/4/5
Bonus Damage: 40/50/60/70
Attack Speed Reduction: -15%
Cooldown: 50/46/42/38
Manacost: 140

Another late game killer. Useful in all situations, but some heroes can be pretty SICK with it (just imagine Kunka, dealing 70 more to the already powerful splash, not to mention Ursa, who's instant spike will be even more instant :O).

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Ice Blast (Ultimate)
Active
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Ancient Apparition projects his presence out to make way for a powerful ripple of hailstone and dark magic. Once cast, it can release the spell to strike targets within 200 area of where his presence was upon release. It will deal damage to enemy units and apply a frostbite curse on them for 7 seconds where their health regeneration will be frozen and will shatter if they fall close enough to death. This spell has global range depending on how long you wait for the projections to move. Frostbitten units will take minor damage over time.

Impact Damage: 250/350/450
Shatter Threshold: 10/11/12%

Cooldown: 44/32/20
Manacost: 100/125/150

Note: You can charge (non-channeling, time based) this as long as you want if you want it to travel further outwards. Has an initial aoe of 200, but increases by a small amount the further it travels.


Very useful spell, might be hard to use properly unless you're very good with it OR your enemies don't know how to dodge it, although in the middle of a battle right in front of you dodging might prove to be quite hard to happen.

The ultimate is very powerful, but again small AoE limits it's capacities, but combining it with DS or Magnus will prove to be extremely deadly, virtually dealing 450 dmg +12% max health worth of damage at lvl 16.





My overall 1st impression of Ancient Apparition is quite nice. He seems like a good team play hero that requires skill to play. Not overpowered, but definitely not useless either.
Only problem I see is that maybe 2 of the other picks of your team have to be specifically devoted to filling his gaps and "helping" him use his skills, which might be counter pick-able.





Murloc Nightcrawler

I really don't want to speak about him much. He's plain IMBA in my honest opinion.

He has Mirana's leap, but better.
He has a freakin 300 dmg AoE spell that costs 40 mana (and 150 life) with 10 sec recharge,
he drains your stats giving himself dmg and atk speed (this lvl 1 passive virtually gives you +42dmg against Str heroes, 23 against others, draining mana as well!) which is just not fair.

I can't even imagine how they gave him such powerful ult after all these already strong spells. His ult at lvl 1 gives him HoT regeneration with a SHIT load of MS while he's out of enemy line of sight, and this is passive! He can even activate it to become perma invisible for 5.5 seconds, allowing him to escape from pretty much ANY gank.






At least Ice Frog learned his lesson and forbid this heroes from CM which means that new version will most probably be used for competitive play straight away.

I can keep talking all night about hte new version but it's probably TLTR anyway and it's kinda 6:30 am so I should probably be going to sleep soon.

AND YES, SANTA IS A LIE - HE DIDNT COME T_T (although on a 2nd thought I might have missed him while playing dota >.> )
I believe!
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
December 24 2009 06:01 GMT
#13726
Some carrys nerfed, some former picked int-heros buffed, tp weakened, boots in sideshop, new item

Urn of Shadows

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Requries:
- Sobi Mask (325)
- 2x Gauntlets of Strength (300)
- Recipe (250)
Total: 875

Provides:
+ 50% Mana Regeneration
+ 6 Strength
+ Active

Starts with 0 charges. Each time an enemy hero dies near you, it gains a charge. The first charges increments by 2, so it goes 0/2/3/4/5/etc
Each usage of the item decreases the charge by 1.

Each hero death can only charge up one of these items per death, so more than one hero having this will not increase the charges for both of the items.

Can be cast on an ally to heal, dispels on non-creep damage. Can alternatively be cast on an enemy hero to do half the heal (200) as damage over 8 seconds.

Heal: 400 HP over 8 seconds
Cooldown: 10


to help gangs.
If Sven farms first 3 waves, does fb, shops boots and goes for the next kill with 200 extradmg packed its just another level of lanecontrol/roaming .
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 06:57:01
December 24 2009 06:54 GMT
#13727
murloc with MoM gets to 150 agi ez, add his ult to that = imba

apparition gets such ez kills throwing ulti out and shit, pretty fun but kinda hard to aim at first


gondar's new jinada allows you to skip SnY or stack it with jinada for imba maim.
I personally went MoM on gondar
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
December 24 2009 08:09 GMT
#13728
6.65 one of the best patches in a while o_o!
('''(G_G/'''')
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
December 24 2009 08:11 GMT
#13729
hey ViC you're wrong.

ice vortex + cold feet will almost always guarantee cold feet working. >.>
AT MOST another stunner to ensure that it goes off if you're against QoP or AM
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 09:58:09
December 24 2009 09:57 GMT
#13730
haha oh man i hope they add murloc into hon..

his ultimate allows him to attack/cast while invisible that's fucking sweetttt

the DT of dota
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 24 2009 10:02 GMT
#13731
hahaha been playing LoL lately, it's insanely awesome
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 24 2009 11:52 GMT
#13732
wat? LoL blows horribly :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Vic.nQQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bulgaria88 Posts
December 24 2009 12:09 GMT
#13733
On December 24 2009 17:11 OmgIRok wrote:
hey ViC you're wrong.

ice vortex + cold feet will almost always guarantee cold feet working. >.>
AT MOST another stunner to ensure that it goes off if you're against QoP or AM


Even if it does work, what's the reason in using a 100+ mana spell just to make another spell work? You get nothing from Ice Vortex early on, so if you just have a stunner like Vengeful Spirit or mb Slardar, with short CD / low mana cost stun, you get to spam A LOT more Cold Feet, which makes the spell much more effective.
I believe!
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 24 2009 12:56 GMT
#13734
On December 24 2009 20:52 Crucifix wrote:
wat? LoL blows horribly :\

actually the support for LoL has increased tremendously since it first came out. People just need to stop thinking it's another DotA/HoN and get use to its own game style.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 24 2009 13:16 GMT
#13735
On December 24 2009 21:56 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 20:52 Crucifix wrote:
wat? LoL blows horribly :\

actually the support for LoL has increased tremendously since it first came out. People just need to stop thinking it's another DotA/HoN and get use to its own game style.

but...
its...
called...
LoL...
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 24 2009 13:16 GMT
#13736
On December 24 2009 21:56 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 20:52 Crucifix wrote:
wat? LoL blows horribly :\

actually the support for LoL has increased tremendously since it first came out. People just need to stop thinking it's another DotA/HoN and get use to its own game style.

but its still named lol... what a fail.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 24 2009 13:16 GMT
#13737
so this hon game seems a lot like dota, someone should sue them imo
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
December 24 2009 13:52 GMT
#13738
Man, I'm so jelous there are new heroes out and I'm away on vacation and can't play them. FFS I gotta find a good computer to play HoN on now
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 24 2009 14:00 GMT
#13739
dark carnival is a HACKER. he hacked into my brain, stole the post that i was going to make, then posted it right before i made it.

ban imho.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 24 2009 21:41 GMT
#13740
you can't prove that imo
@QxGDarkCell ._.
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