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On August 20 2009 11:37 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:12 Ace wrote:
meh. I still think Axe is an overrated hero, just like Clinkz. Pub Allstars I guess. axe is very good hero, not overrated at all. clinkz however is just not that great of a hero =P. Hes a hard carry that has shit hp gain. Also even with his death pact/ww he has shit survivability due to his last hit animation being so bad =/.
it's kinda hard to believe when you see pubs with 2 vanguards and battle hunger spams 
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let's judge the viability of heroes on pub's usage
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On August 20 2009 11:47 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:37 Alventenie wrote:On August 20 2009 11:12 Ace wrote:
meh. I still think Axe is an overrated hero, just like Clinkz. Pub Allstars I guess. axe is very good hero, not overrated at all. clinkz however is just not that great of a hero =P. Hes a hard carry that has shit hp gain. Also even with his death pact/ww he has shit survivability due to his last hit animation being so bad =/. lasthit animation gives him shit survivability?? that makes total sense!. I think buffed firearrows on clinkz at least doesn't make him completely fucking useless anymore.
bad animation means he doesnt get very good cs, meaning he has no items to stay alive o.O
Also, even with buff firearrows, unless you are playing vs a relatively easy lane, a clinkz in a clan war is going to get raped in cs/denies. Im not talking about pubs or low level clan wars, a clinkz in high level games will most of the time fail as a carry due to not having cs because of his bad animation. That leaves him itemless mid game and vulnerable to any burst spell casters.
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On August 20 2009 12:24 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:47 nttea wrote:On August 20 2009 11:37 Alventenie wrote:On August 20 2009 11:12 Ace wrote:
meh. I still think Axe is an overrated hero, just like Clinkz. Pub Allstars I guess. axe is very good hero, not overrated at all. clinkz however is just not that great of a hero =P. Hes a hard carry that has shit hp gain. Also even with his death pact/ww he has shit survivability due to his last hit animation being so bad =/. lasthit animation gives him shit survivability?? that makes total sense!. I think buffed firearrows on clinkz at least doesn't make him completely fucking useless anymore. bad animation means he doesnt get very good cs, meaning he has no items to stay alive o.O Also, even with buff firearrows, unless you are playing vs a relatively easy lane, a clinkz in a clan war is going to get raped in cs/denies. Im not talking about pubs or low level clan wars, a clinkz in high level games will most of the time fail as a carry due to not having cs because of his bad animation. That leaves him itemless mid game and vulnerable to any burst spell casters.
The problem is not about laning, as he can orbwalk to harrass and at lvl 6 he pretty much gets a free midas. The problem is not being able to contribute in a team fight other than single target dps, a problem many agi carries have.
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On August 20 2009 12:10 paper wrote:
let's judge the viability of heroes on pub's usage
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You guys dont play with me anymore QQ
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Maybe if you would get a mic fgt.
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by fgt you mean fighter right? good move man
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Nick says (10:23 PM):
I hear that!
I finally heard shit!
It was like a choir of angels coming in from above and tickling my balls.
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On August 20 2009 12:24 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:47 nttea wrote:On August 20 2009 11:37 Alventenie wrote:On August 20 2009 11:12 Ace wrote:
meh. I still think Axe is an overrated hero, just like Clinkz. Pub Allstars I guess. axe is very good hero, not overrated at all. clinkz however is just not that great of a hero =P. Hes a hard carry that has shit hp gain. Also even with his death pact/ww he has shit survivability due to his last hit animation being so bad =/. lasthit animation gives him shit survivability?? that makes total sense!. I think buffed firearrows on clinkz at least doesn't make him completely fucking useless anymore. bad animation means he doesnt get very good cs, meaning he has no items to stay alive o.O Also, even with buff firearrows, unless you are playing vs a relatively easy lane, a clinkz in a clan war is going to get raped in cs/denies. Im not talking about pubs or low level clan wars, a clinkz in high level games will most of the time fail as a carry due to not having cs because of his bad animation. That leaves him itemless mid game and vulnerable to any burst spell casters.
Animation isn't relevant as much as damage and damage range. Most good Clinkz in high level games will almost always have high CS, it's just a matter of surviving. He definitely not a carry you can throw in any line up and make it work.
Case in point, http://dota.sgamer.com/Replay/Detail/30379, Azen just ignores most team fights during mid game as he should, 4v5 with Clinkz farming is an old strategy
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lol does anyone remember the cw a couple weeks ago where they chose clinkz... rofl. and banned all these random heroes after shit talking us for like 20 mins when we were trying to get their last player to join. then we had like viper/clockwerk lane versus their clinkz/es. god they were so bad.
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im assuming Viper/Clockwork ran wild on them amirite?
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no clinkz destroyed us with his imba animation and base damage, especially considering testie was playing clockwerk, he's so bad!
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wow this kid's art is shit
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On August 21 2009 02:52 Ace wrote:
wow this kid's art is shit
someone's jealous
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those look like curly fries to me
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lol Testie rage quit, again. Elemenope/R!en > Testie
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