• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:05
CET 02:05
KST 10:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!41$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1168 users

[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1618

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1616 1617 1618 1619 1620 1664 Next
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
January 24 2012 19:35 GMT
#32341
Can any pair of heroes beat monarch/ra in lower mmr games? I've been doing that with my friend for several games now and we just trounce anyone, either through a lot of kills, or just denying all exp/gold. I guess something like jera/valk might stand a chance? Assuming the general 2/1/2 lanes seen in 1500-1600 games.
I can already see the ending
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
January 24 2012 19:45 GMT
#32342
jera with anything, succubus with anything

and to play aggressively, try andro/panda which should completely dominate monarch/ra if andro goes Q/W build
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
January 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#32343
On January 25 2012 01:34 Ethenielle wrote:
Soul Reaper is absolutely not even remotely tanky without items, so you should never really play him as support. Definitely not a top tier hero, but not garbage either. Very farm dependant hero, but he has QE to do that with so it's not really an issue.

Laning phase you want to skill at least 2pts into skill3 which you laugh at, but if you last hit well it's extreeeeemely good with his Q. It boggles me why you laugh at his skillset because all of them are so very good. If you use ult to KS with then that's not the fault of the skill, much the same way with legionnaires R.

Lategame aura is a monster skill, and with tanky items and your Q you'll be dealing out a ton of damage. He's a good counter to high hp tanky heroes, just not as good/safe as a rangecarry with shieldbreaker which is what you see today.

A few tips to finish off:
Avoid support SR like the plague, it's awful and you WILL feed. If you end up in that role anyway, get lvl 3 in lane and go ancients with lvl 2 aura. Stack.
Play like carry, at least 2 pts in E, build tanky.
Never build sotm because it's shitty as fuck, your ult isn't your main damagdealer, it's your aura.
Skin has a better animation.


Just tested him out to see if anything is changed. Things that immediately come to mind:
- alt avatar does have better animations
- playing SR in pure support role (warding and what not) blows
- clutch ulti is clutch
- it seems like they nerfed aura again, don't know why but it didn't seem as good as before (it doesn't work on creeps, it doesn't give you assists and it doesn't seem to really hurt people)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:30:28
January 25 2012 00:29 GMT
#32344
Problem with SR is that you need farm, and a lot of it - something you won't get in a solo lane unless you go against a solo (even then you can get out-lasthit) and pubs can't comprehend the concept of int carry, so dual-laning isn't really an option either. He's very situational in that he dominates hp stacking carries a la zephyr/ra but will get sent straight to the dumpster against anything else. Not really viable in a pushing strat either because of the prohibitive mana cost on judgment (you'll need to get last hits, which is a coinflip).


And obviously getting any farm on him at all is pretty much impossible unless you get post haste (which is a good pickup because of his retarded base MS, but again, farmfarmafamramrmfarm rice -.-)
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
January 25 2012 00:38 GMT
#32345
hon is actually growing pretty well. its getting up to 70k people now. i actually think its the most fun out of the 3 moba at the moment. i do play all of them. Havent played dota2 yet but im assuming its gonna be like dota.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 25 2012 00:56 GMT
#32346
On January 25 2012 09:38 Diizzy wrote:
hon is actually growing pretty well. its getting up to 70k people now. i actually think its the most fun out of the 3 moba at the moment. i do play all of them. Havent played dota2 yet but im assuming its gonna be like dota.

You should check out GotA, It's right up there with the best of them.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
January 25 2012 01:06 GMT
#32347
On January 25 2012 09:56 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:38 Diizzy wrote:
hon is actually growing pretty well. its getting up to 70k people now. i actually think its the most fun out of the 3 moba at the moment. i do play all of them. Havent played dota2 yet but im assuming its gonna be like dota.

You should check out GotA, It's right up there with the best of them.


Did your name always have only 1 L???
Hates Fun🤔
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 25 2012 01:08 GMT
#32348
On January 25 2012 10:06 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:56 Alur wrote:
On January 25 2012 09:38 Diizzy wrote:
hon is actually growing pretty well. its getting up to 70k people now. i actually think its the most fun out of the 3 moba at the moment. i do play all of them. Havent played dota2 yet but im assuming its gonna be like dota.

You should check out GotA, It's right up there with the best of them.


Did your name always have only 1 L???

First Heen confusing me with Fenshu and now this? T.T
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 02:40:31
January 25 2012 01:30 GMT
#32349
nvm almost convincing lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
January 25 2012 01:41 GMT
#32350
you shouldnt support because the hero sucks if you try,
you can farm just fine because E gives you mana,
you just said "outcarry" without any context,
and the animation is fine.

asking questions and believing that the answers have to convince you while you ignore half their context is not.



Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 02:40:42
January 25 2012 02:37 GMT
#32351
nvm SR top tier
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 25 2012 03:12 GMT
#32352
Umgs i wanna play with pokebunny
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
January 25 2012 03:25 GMT
#32353
Ra monarch is strong but it can easily be matched or beaten lol. Accursed cd too stronk!
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 25 2012 04:10 GMT
#32354
On January 25 2012 10:08 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:06 paper wrote:
On January 25 2012 09:56 Alur wrote:
On January 25 2012 09:38 Diizzy wrote:
hon is actually growing pretty well. its getting up to 70k people now. i actually think its the most fun out of the 3 moba at the moment. i do play all of them. Havent played dota2 yet but im assuming its gonna be like dota.

You should check out GotA, It's right up there with the best of them.


Did your name always have only 1 L???

First Heen confusing me with Fenshu and now this? T.T

all you euros are the same
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 04:39:32
January 25 2012 04:39 GMT
#32355
On January 25 2012 04:35 DCLXVI wrote:
Can any pair of heroes beat monarch/ra in lower mmr games? I've been doing that with my friend for several games now and we just trounce anyone, either through a lot of kills, or just denying all exp/gold. I guess something like jera/valk might stand a chance? Assuming the general 2/1/2 lanes seen in 1500-1600 games.


Slither Armadon might deliver some sweet justice on that lane.
Adonai bless
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 25 2012 05:34 GMT
#32356
who cares about lanes when you can just stack blessed orbs on Gemini and farm 2 jungles all game.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
January 25 2012 05:47 GMT
#32357
who cares about lanes when you can just stack blessed orbs on Gemini and farm 2 jungles all game.


Game would be better if Ra, Monarch and Gemini were all never released. True story.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#32358
On January 25 2012 13:39 XeliN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 04:35 DCLXVI wrote:
Can any pair of heroes beat monarch/ra in lower mmr games? I've been doing that with my friend for several games now and we just trounce anyone, either through a lot of kills, or just denying all exp/gold. I guess something like jera/valk might stand a chance? Assuming the general 2/1/2 lanes seen in 1500-1600 games.


Slither Armadon might deliver some sweet justice on that lane.


ds armadon is the strongest dual lane in like the game
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 06:05:26
January 25 2012 06:04 GMT
#32359
january 27 big huge enormous super powerful good great s2 approved balance patch is going to do nothing you heard it here first

fuck vindi rework
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 25 2012 06:26 GMT
#32360
that so called balanced patch is on the 27th friday lol i wonder how many changes there will be, and how long it iwll take me to find something to abuse for the lulz. My fav thing to do right now is go bearless wildsoul and get shroud and shield breaker always be invis and always move at 522ms, rampage be damed. So much rage when you dont use the bear as wildsoul.
Prev 1 1616 1617 1618 1619 1620 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
CranKy Ducklings156
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group A
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
ZZZero.O181
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 137
SpeCial 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13622
Sea 1403
ZZZero.O 181
White-Ra 176
NaDa 25
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm48
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor181
Other Games
tarik_tv8187
summit1g6551
Grubby2558
FrodaN228
ToD134
Maynarde96
goatrope58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick715
Counter-Strike
PGL120
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 20
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21313
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2746
Other Games
• Scarra298
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 55m
WardiTV Korean Royale
10h 55m
LAN Event
13h 55m
IPSL
16h 55m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
18h 55m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.