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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
August 22 2011 05:45 GMT
#30341
On August 22 2011 14:02 kinger256 wrote:
Playing carry myrmidon is extremely satisfying. A better carry then one would think.

Myrm doesn't scale well into late game compared to other carries so, no she isn't good. None of her abilities scale. Sure, you can stomp mid-game with shrunken+elder parasite+spellshards or whatever you want but that's not really viable.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 22 2011 06:04 GMT
#30342
His ult scales with attack speed.

I've only played Myrm a few times and never really went that well. Think it's cause I'm not a big fan of his model/attack animation.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 06:34:46
August 22 2011 06:34 GMT
#30343
Hey guys have been doing up some team lineups lately to try out with my friends, wondering what you think of them? I'm mostly not happy with lineup 1 or the mid hero for lineup 2 =\ 1750-ish players.

Lineup 1

Defensive -
Andromeda
Predator

Middle -
Aluna

Offensive -
Pyromancer
Hammerstorm

Lineup 2

Defensive -
Hammerstorm
Slither

Middle -
Defiler

Offensive -
Nymphora
Armadon
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
August 22 2011 06:42 GMT
#30344
Myrm's agi gain is like rock bottom bad unfortunately, he's beating Pebbles and someone else iirc, couple that with the attack animation and you have problems. He's a decent ganker though if you give him early levels. Shoot a fish at someone, wave form on to them, ulti and drop a weedfield is decent damage/disables.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 22 2011 06:45 GMT
#30345
If you come up with an uber pro lineup just make sure your friends are comfortable to play the heroes, otherwise they probably won't play as well anyway.

Give me Myrm and I'll be depressed about the game before it starts but put me on Witch and i'll be keen to get out and gank.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
August 22 2011 06:55 GMT
#30346
A good team lineup should have an idea behind it. A simple mission statement like "We want to push really early and ride that gold advantage into a midgame victory" or "We want to gank like crazy early on and shutdown their carries" or "We want to have 4 people on strong early game heroes while our hard carry farms".

So in that second lineup a Defiler pick screams push but Hammer Nymph and Arma don't really coincide with push, slither kind of.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 22 2011 07:03 GMT
#30347
Duno, Slither/Nymphora/Defiler is a strong push team.

If I was playing with 4 friends though I'd do some baller push team like Temp/War Beast/Nymph/Soul Reaper/Ophelia.

Or blink team of death... basically 5 gankers all with blink ability or item. WS/Hag/Mag/AM/Pebbles.

Also you have to do a fast rosh one game if you're playing all 5.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 11:59:11
August 22 2011 11:58 GMT
#30348
Serious question; what do you do when a few days ago you were just under 1700; HoN was a magical game and everyone is happy. A few days later you are now 1590; ready to uninstall and kill everyone you know.

Why HoN.. Why!?

Do you think S2 has an alogrithm that when you start winning they start stacking your team with bads.
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 22 2011 12:06 GMT
#30349
Or...you're playing better players
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
August 22 2011 12:09 GMT
#30350
On August 22 2011 20:58 bkrow wrote:
Serious question; what do you do when a few days ago you were just under 1700; HoN was a magical game and everyone is happy. A few days later you are now 1590; ready to uninstall and kill everyone you know.

Why HoN.. Why!?

Do you think S2 has an alogrithm that when you start winning they start stacking your team with bads.


Standard. I used to constantly circulate between 1750 and 1600. Now I'm at 1400 or something after lending my account to a friend so at least I can only go up from there.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#30351
I was stuck at 1600-1700 for a while, then I spurted up to like 1780, and have been sitting pretty here for a while now
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
August 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#30352
A lot of luck is involved if you solo queue indeed.

0-9 1960 mmr hag yesterday. Huehueuhe)
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
August 22 2011 12:48 GMT
#30353
I think the funniest ez mode non-standard carry you can play is accursed. His passive gets crazy good when you combine it with some hardcore dps items like runed cleaver and thunderclaw, plus his q lets you finish with ease, his shield removes debuffs and does some decent AoE damage to boot, plus his ulti basically gives you 5 seconds of invulnerablity every 60 seconds. Combine it with a bkb right afterwards, and you have another 5-10 seconds of basically damage free fun. When you combine it with his passive and thunderclaw/runed, you can shred an entire team in seconds, basically risk free.

I'm pretty bad, but managed to get this to work vs some unverified 1500s, and it was the most fun I've had playing HoN so far. Especially because you know those people are going to be trying to play accursed as a carry for the next 20 games.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
August 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#30354
Against unverified 1500's you can make anything work. Accursed kind of works with farm as he is very good at being unkillable in teamfights and running around annoying people. If you want someone to fill that role though kraken works much better.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 22 2011 13:43 GMT
#30355
just run accursed mid, win game ezpz
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 22 2011 14:57 GMT
#30356
On August 22 2011 11:07 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 10:58 wonderwall wrote:
Andromeda is a pretty decent carry if you can get items with her, although it can be hard to farm amidst the incoherent rage of your team mates screaming at you to get wards. Damage aura and - armor as well as a good stun makes her pretty ownage though with items.


It comes down to just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Andro is made of paper in terms of squishiness, has a short attack range and all of her skills work independently of her items.


pshh by that logic anyone that builds a soft carry slither is doing it wrong. people are just used to andro supporting, her stat growth isn't even bad. ¡viva la revolución of soft carry andro!


People just didn't play in early beta. Andromeda was THE carry. Send her mid, and carry via farm. Her attack animation was on broken levels of broken.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#30357
when you get past like 1650 you want to have like 2 friends you can at least que with that are good. else you might get non stop games of you +0 -1 with ppl in the 1200's haha
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 22 2011 16:04 GMT
#30358
does the matchmaker take into account how many you queue with and try and match you vs. other premade teams?

I solo queued as a brand new account 1500 unverified and got to like 1580/1560 going 5-1 with ridiculous K:D:A ratio. Everyone in the games were terrible and my dota background allowed me to destroy everyone despite not knowing the HoN/DoTA hero translations or items.

I then started team queueing, 3-4 of us all ~1480-1560 and we just got stomped into the ground and the opponents were significantly better. We ended up going like 1-3 and being thouroughly trounced.

Was kinda weird.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 16:27:47
August 22 2011 16:27 GMT
#30359
On August 23 2011 01:04 crms wrote:
does the matchmaker take into account how many you queue with and try and match you vs. other premade teams?

Yes. Five-man teams are almost always matched against other five-man teams. If you're queued with anything else, it'll sort of match accordingly. For example, if you queue as a group of three, you might not be matched up against another group of three (plus two players on each team) because the MMRs might not average out close enough. The game prioritizes balancing the teams by MMR so you can end up with 3+1+1 vs 2+2+1 or 3+2 vs 4+1 or whatever.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
August 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#30360
On August 20 2011 10:31 SwaY- wrote:
Yeah.. RIP HoN, free courier just nailed the coffin on this game. w/e.

At least it's good timing.

This stuff just cracks me up. LOL? Free courier BREAKS the game.....really? Good teams buy one every single game regardless. Bad teams are too bad to notice. One support now has 200 extra gold to spend. Yes, the game is now totally broken...............OMFG, someone can get a doombringer 100 seconds sooner now!!?!? BUT MY E-HAN TIMINGS!!

Srsly? Just take a step back, and think about what you are saying.
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