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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 21:09:50
July 17 2011 21:07 GMT
#28061
On July 18 2011 05:49 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 02:36 Nevuk wrote:
On July 18 2011 01:14 SirMilford wrote:
On July 17 2011 21:46 Canas wrote:
On July 17 2011 18:34 Mazer wrote:
Have been playing LoL since beta but I've been wanting to try HoN out for a while so I just bought it for $10.

Any suggestions on a relatively easy champ to pick up the game with? I need to learn how to deny and lane properly.


Plague rider and witch slayer are both really strong and relatively easy heroes to play. Only downside is that they can be kind of squishy but as long as you dont position yourself badly you'll be fine.

Call them heroes, not champions


he... did?

Plague Rider is definitely the easiest hero to learn, and is rather strong at all levels of play. (Lineup dependent at higher levels). It teaches you just how powerful denies can be, has an excellent animation, and is probably the least farm dependent hero in the game.

Witch Slayer is a lot harder to learn than people think. He's really squishy, slow (295 ms), and his stun is something of a skillshot (clicking on the hero has 500 range while it really has 850 if you click on the ground... but then you'll miss without a lot of practice). His animation is also awful.

Some other easy heroes to learn : blacksmith, hammerstorm, electrician, slither. I found moon queen really easy when starting but some people would disagree. (Her and swiftblade are probably the easiest carries, but the issue is that mq has a rough time laning vs long range heroes and swiftblade needs a decent lane partner to do well. The issue really is that trying to carry at such a low level is a little silly).

WtffffFfffffFFffffFFFFFFFFFFF

You didn't know this? Makes him much much stronger. It always goes to max range too, unlike magmus (so if you click on the ground like right in front of yourself it still goes out 700 units). I was actually wrong on the numbers, it's 500 cast range vs 700 stun range (500 aoe all levels). It's still a tremendous length, at level 1 he has the stun range of a level 7 magmus. Only 1.02 second stun, but still good (tooltip lies, the thrown in the air now counts as part of the stun and that lasts .52 seconds).

This mostly matters in laning when chasing people, if you are within 625 units of someone you can generally stun them, and if they are on the other side of the lane and you run diagonally at them while they run straight it's possible to do a diagonal stun and hit them despite moving slower (rare and extremely hard to pull off, I look pretty silly a lot when it happens).
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 17 2011 21:26 GMT
#28062
Big agree on Moon Queen. Practice those last hits, spam Q then ulti and you win
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 17 2011 21:34 GMT
#28063
I thought it was max range however you targeted. As you can see I never play witch
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 17 2011 21:44 GMT
#28064
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 21:45:46
July 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#28065
On July 18 2011 05:49 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 02:36 Nevuk wrote:
On July 18 2011 01:14 SirMilford wrote:
On July 17 2011 21:46 Canas wrote:
On July 17 2011 18:34 Mazer wrote:
Have been playing LoL since beta but I've been wanting to try HoN out for a while so I just bought it for $10.

Any suggestions on a relatively easy champ to pick up the game with? I need to learn how to deny and lane properly.


Plague rider and witch slayer are both really strong and relatively easy heroes to play. Only downside is that they can be kind of squishy but as long as you dont position yourself badly you'll be fine.

Call them heroes, not champions


he... did?

Plague Rider is definitely the easiest hero to learn, and is rather strong at all levels of play. (Lineup dependent at higher levels). It teaches you just how powerful denies can be, has an excellent animation, and is probably the least farm dependent hero in the game.

Witch Slayer is a lot harder to learn than people think. He's really squishy, slow (295 ms), and his stun is something of a skillshot (clicking on the hero has 500 range while it really has 850 if you click on the ground... but then you'll miss without a lot of practice). His animation is also awful.

Some other easy heroes to learn : blacksmith, hammerstorm, electrician, slither. I found moon queen really easy when starting but some people would disagree. (Her and swiftblade are probably the easiest carries, but the issue is that mq has a rough time laning vs long range heroes and swiftblade needs a decent lane partner to do well. The issue really is that trying to carry at such a low level is a little silly).

WtffffFfffffFFffffFFFFFFFFFFF


Most people realized this with impale on nerub/lion in dota?
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 17 2011 21:48 GMT
#28066
I'm too busy playing heroes like rampage, night hound, and maliken
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
July 17 2011 22:12 GMT
#28067
On July 18 2011 06:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
Big agree on Moon Queen. Practice those last hits, spam Q then ulti and you win


Moon queen is a good choice. I would also like to recommend Armadon (tanky + good dmg), Madman (stealth escape mechanism ftw), and Pyro as good starting choices.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 17 2011 22:14 GMT
#28068
real men abuse ppl under 1700 by going tremble mid and watching them not get wards ever.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
July 17 2011 22:19 GMT
#28069
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 17 2011 22:23 GMT
#28070
On July 18 2011 07:19 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles

old naix was great i could eat a sandwich and play him derp avatar mode and rape
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 23:01:56
July 17 2011 23:01 GMT
#28071
On July 18 2011 07:19 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles


I'll get a codex if I really want to play srsbzness

lolol

I respect anyone playing Ophelia.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 17 2011 23:02 GMT
#28072
On July 18 2011 08:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 07:19 bkrow wrote:
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles


I'll get a codex if I really want to play srsbzness

lolol

I respect anyone playing Ophelia.


but a codex requires 2 clicks to use
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 17 2011 23:05 GMT
#28073
On July 18 2011 08:02 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 08:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 18 2011 07:19 bkrow wrote:
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles


I'll get a codex if I really want to play srsbzness

lolol

I respect anyone playing Ophelia.


but a codex requires 2 clicks to use


See, so complicated.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
July 17 2011 23:08 GMT
#28074
Lol Torts icon got mentioned on Testie's stream - i think that means it's time for a change right? Does that count :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 23:11:16
July 17 2011 23:11 GMT
#28075
On July 18 2011 08:08 bkrow wrote:
Lol Torts icon got mentioned on Testie's stream - i think that means it's time for a change right? Does that count :p


By who?
Why?

(tell me over p.m)
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 18 2011 01:57 GMT
#28076
On July 18 2011 07:19 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 06:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
No idea, I've never played Lion. Not my kind of hero, nor Pollywog.
Anyone with too many abilities fucks me up. I miss the old Nai'x D:

Ah so you're a big fan of the one click heroes :p

Bubbles by far has to be the most baller hero hands down - particularly ninja bubbles

I FUCKING LOVE BUBBLES
Oh my goddd Bubbles is such a good hero. He can do Everythingggggggggggggggggg
Seriouslyyyy name one thing he can NOT do
NOTHING
Bubbles da man!
<3
+ Show Spoiler +
Bubbles turtle strat imba
BalancedBreakfast
Profile Joined May 2011
United States468 Posts
July 18 2011 02:33 GMT
#28077
On July 18 2011 02:36 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 01:14 SirMilford wrote:
On July 17 2011 21:46 Canas wrote:
On July 17 2011 18:34 Mazer wrote:
Have been playing LoL since beta but I've been wanting to try HoN out for a while so I just bought it for $10.

Any suggestions on a relatively easy champ to pick up the game with? I need to learn how to deny and lane properly.


Plague rider and witch slayer are both really strong and relatively easy heroes to play. Only downside is that they can be kind of squishy but as long as you dont position yourself badly you'll be fine.

Call them heroes, not champions


he... did?

Plague Rider is definitely the easiest hero to learn, and is rather strong at all levels of play. (Lineup dependent at higher levels). It teaches you just how powerful denies can be, has an excellent animation, and is probably the least farm dependent hero in the game.


actually i would argue that pr has awful attack animation. its on par with like a glacius/pyro kinda animation, ur not going to get the last hit vs most heroes if you are atking for any kind of range. (granted the other hero doesn't suck.)
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
July 18 2011 02:47 GMT
#28078
Congratulations to TL members for winning the LN tournament.

It was a low-mid level tournament but none the less a tournament won.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
July 18 2011 04:07 GMT
#28079
I think plague's animation is quite good, certainly not the best but not bad by a long shot compared to plenty of other heros. He's got decent damage too.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 04:21:12
July 18 2011 04:18 GMT
#28080
On July 18 2011 11:47 buckbo1604 wrote:
Congratulations to TL members for winning the LN tournament.

It was a low-mid level tournament but none the less a tournament won.

Good work. Winning tournies, thread exploding with new posters, JeeJee banned: a fine time indeed.

Edit: I also suggest that new players try Plague Rider (PR) first. He's a relatively simple hero and he's very useful. Always buy a monkey courier at the start of the game, even if your team is too bad to use it right away, and get some health regen. Go into lane and q+auto attack your way to victory.
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