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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 11 2011 14:44 GMT
#27661
Actually, I agree with Nevuk. He's actually pretty good at the game
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
July 11 2011 14:46 GMT
#27662
where can I find current dota commentaries?
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
July 11 2011 15:08 GMT
#27663
On July 11 2011 23:46 Rice wrote:
where can I find current dota commentaries?


www.dotacommentaries.com

don't watch nebula, he is crap
luminous and iamjamesbarnett are ok imo
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 11 2011 21:11 GMT
#27664
scourge team = best clan ever
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/48950
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 11 2011 22:30 GMT
#27665
Lycan runs into the same problems as Broodmother with shittier laning but better carry.
Get it by your hands...
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:03:41
July 11 2011 23:01 GMT
#27666
On July 12 2011 00:08 Sadir wrote:

www.dotacommentaries.com

don't watch nebula, he is crap
luminous and iamjamesbarnett are ok imo


lumi is very good if you know the basics (speaks quickly and uses acronyms for every hero & item,
but is very informative)
Nebu1a is kinda funny, but you won't really learn much, however watching any of his dual casts with luminous is much better. idk about ijb.

EPIC

#11 on WFoJ replay :
+ Show Spoiler +
fapfap.fap (he faps)
fapfap.EdHard (he fap hard)
fapfap.idc (he doesn't care whether he fap or not)
fapfap.whatever (he doesn't care too)
fapfap.styl3r (fapping with styl3)
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:05:50
July 11 2011 23:05 GMT
#27667
[crap double post
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
July 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#27668
I only watch luminous. Every other caster has too many fillers and mispronounces too many things. Luminous still mispronounces a few things (he says "Scourged Earf" instead of "Scorched Earth") but its mostly a language barrier thing. He keeps talking no matter what and its 96% relevant.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 12 2011 00:33 GMT
#27669
On July 12 2011 07:30 Judicator wrote:
Lycan runs into the same problems as Broodmother with shittier laning but better carry.

broodmothers good at pushing towers but she takes a lot longer now, a good mid game push team with lycan can just eat up towers like nothing, and the other team has to pick around that

i dont think they're really comparable roles because of how broods laned, hes more niche than than the formerly almost-forever banned hero since lycan cant constantly push a lane forever and has no psuedo ranged properties
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#27670
Don't forget. Dominate 8 creeps w/ vlads, necro 3, as, and backdoor their rax. You mow them down in 5 seconds. Remember backdooring is a legit strat
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 12 2011 01:06 GMT
#27671
its different in dota
in dota the towers have an auto heal for backdoor, if you don't get the tower it'll start healing automatically
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:17:18
July 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#27672
Sup boys

Was bored, decided to make this chart because I couldn't find info about MMR distribution online. Click to enlarge.

[image loading]

Median MMR is 1580 on the dot.
Most popular mmr is 1650-1700
1850+ is 99th percentile

I ignored about 1% of the players (everyone below 800psr). Sucks for them.

edit: Fixed link -- TL's autoupload links to the wrong thing -.^
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 12 2011 01:22 GMT
#27673
do people suck that much at hon
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:27:24
July 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#27674
According to my data, 84.02% of hon players are terminally brain-damaged, and 97.27% don't have a basic understanding of this game. Only 0.26% are legitimately good. And I bet those numbers are deflated due to smurfs.

Now you wonder why everyone rages in hon.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 12 2011 01:34 GMT
#27675
aw man i dont have a basic understanding of the game
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#27676
Don't worry about it, you don't need it to have a high rating. I find breakyCPK casts quite insightful and still broke 1800
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 02:04:19
July 12 2011 01:58 GMT
#27677
But according to S2, there are 500,000 accounts made. Given that only about 4% of that number is online at any given time during US peak times, 8% during EU times, I'd guess the number of actually unique individuals playing is probably something more like 100,000? Where did the number 250,000 come from for your graph?

My 500k number comes from the bragging email S2 sent out to everyone about reaching 500,000 accounts. Since there's no way to reset stats without paying $$ half of those are probably subaccounts since they cost the exact goddamn same amount as a stat reset and actually give you a new account and not just new stats. It's tiring to play 1800+ TMM all the time and sometimes you just want to play lower level games. Sure it sucks for the shitty players and no doubt it would be abused to an extent by the higher level players if new accounts were free but if those above 1800 make up such a tiny margin of the population it wouldn't be a statistical problem. Look at ICCUP, it was never a problem outside of the whiney blogs people made (by which I mean not a REAL problem).

I have access to 8 accounts on which I am by far the primary player, 3 of which I've bought over the last 2 years, and not a single one is below 1700 CMM or 1800 NM (about equivalent in terms of queue time in my experience). I'm not trying to brag by saying that but simply to say that it gets irritating especially since almost nobody I play with has any accounts under 1800 either so we're always almost forced to play "tryhard" games.

Also if 1800+ is such a high percentile that's fucking depressing because in MM probably 90% of the above 1800s I've played with have been completely horrible. I really hope that Dota 2 has a gigantic userbase so that we can have a much better pool of "good" players. In HON 1800+ seems to be the "good" cutoff in many people's minds but in a never ending ladder season higher MMRs become rather meaningless. A system like a reset every 3 months would be better, but given that people already cry and whine ceaselessly about those who actually spend money to get clean stats I imagine that the outcry would be colossal if S2 were to do that.

JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 12 2011 02:16 GMT
#27678
I got all my info from
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/players_mm
Showing (1-25) of 246,694 total results!

Dunno what the 500k thing is about
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
July 12 2011 02:45 GMT
#27679
That's according to S2, but aren't the players divided by regions like in sc2?
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
July 12 2011 02:59 GMT
#27680
This is what S2 sent to everyone:

HoN Hits 500,000 Accounts! We are pleased to announce that Heroes of Newerth has hit yet another major benchmark! On Tuesday, June 19, HoN hit 500,000 paid accounts! There has never been a better time to get your Game HoN and welcome any fresh blood! [sic]


I don't see how that is reconciled with there being only 200k on the ladder. It also says paid accounts so they can't include Garena. And there are no regions in HON.
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