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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
July 10 2011 11:31 GMT
#27641
sod wildsoul, use tree in the 1600 bracket ;p should be EZ
Meh.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
July 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#27642
Gogo TL in LN Tournament finals!
Chains none
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:43:00
July 10 2011 21:28 GMT
#27643
On July 11 2011 05:36 LordWeird wrote:
Gogo TL in LN Tournament finals!


Thanks.

also, Happy Birthday!
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
July 10 2011 21:41 GMT
#27644
sigh.. i too will miss bomb after the switch to dota2. easily my most played hero
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 10 2011 22:52 GMT
#27645
On July 11 2011 06:41 wooozy wrote:
sigh.. i too will miss bomb after the switch to dota2. easily my most played hero

A BOMB!


+ Show Spoiler +
tribute to lmnop
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 11 2011 02:08 GMT
#27646
Are the LN finals streamed live
Is it done already
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#27647
On July 10 2011 12:11 wonderwall wrote:
Blink in as Behe and realize you don't have mana for anything is a favorite of mine


I have something of a talent for doing this with engima/tempest. My 2 most common derps are
-Blink in, meteor, no mana for ult anymore -_-
-Blink in, ult still on cooldown for 3 seconds

Both happened at least 3 times.
I suck at this game. Still win with my claymores and bottles though, let the haters hate.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
July 11 2011 02:31 GMT
#27648
On July 11 2011 11:08 GhostKorean wrote:
Are the LN finals streamed live
Is it done already


Doubt it. well maybe. but there will be specs allowed I think.

Meh. final match than coins.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 11 2011 02:37 GMT
#27649
On July 11 2011 11:29 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:11 wonderwall wrote:
Blink in as Behe and realize you don't have mana for anything is a favorite of mine


I have something of a talent for doing this with engima/tempest. My 2 most common derps are
-Blink in, meteor, no mana for ult anymore -_-
-Blink in, ult still on cooldown for 3 seconds

Both happened at least 3 times.
I suck at this game. Still win with my claymores and bottles though, let the haters hate.

You forgot blink in, blink was on cooldown, hero runs in to ult, gets stunned, die
and
blink in, ult in-between three heroes, catch none of them
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 11 2011 02:40 GMT
#27650
On July 11 2011 11:37 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 11:29 JeeJee wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:11 wonderwall wrote:
Blink in as Behe and realize you don't have mana for anything is a favorite of mine


I have something of a talent for doing this with engima/tempest. My 2 most common derps are
-Blink in, meteor, no mana for ult anymore -_-
-Blink in, ult still on cooldown for 3 seconds

Both happened at least 3 times.
I suck at this game. Still win with my claymores and bottles though, let the haters hate.

You forgot blink in, blink was on cooldown, hero runs in to ult, gets stunned, die
and
blink in, ult in-between three heroes, catch none of them


I've only done those like twice each max :<
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 11 2011 03:06 GMT
#27651
tb ult > try to blink in > ulti nothing way behind teamfight
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 11 2011 03:07 GMT
#27652
The best one is as tempest blink in and ulti when the teamfights already over and u lost and your team is running away
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 03:40:28
July 11 2011 03:40 GMT
#27653
On July 11 2011 11:37 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 11:29 JeeJee wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:11 wonderwall wrote:
Blink in as Behe and realize you don't have mana for anything is a favorite of mine


I have something of a talent for doing this with engima/tempest. My 2 most common derps are
-Blink in, meteor, no mana for ult anymore -_-
-Blink in, ult still on cooldown for 3 seconds

Both happened at least 3 times.
I suck at this game. Still win with my claymores and bottles though, let the haters hate.

You forgot blink in, blink was on cooldown, hero runs in to ult, gets stunned, die
and
blink in, ult in-between three heroes, catch none of them


Magmus ult -> not enough mana for blink/blink on cooldown is the best worst as you do the walk of shame while your ult goes off.
Logo
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 03:42:23
July 11 2011 03:42 GMT
#27654
The best devourer hook ever (5-6 images):
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=242766
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 11 2011 03:58 GMT
#27655
On July 11 2011 12:07 GhostKorean wrote:
The best one is as tempest blink in and ulti when the teamfights already over and u lost and your team is running away

Uhh that's only an ok one. The best one is you blink in and you ulti the grass Testie style.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
July 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#27656
The best one is you blink in and you ulti the grass Testie style.


Testie fails are the best. Playing Magmus on his stream a few days ago. Ulti's, breaks the channel by tping too soon and stuns between two people.
Fishes
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom47 Posts
July 11 2011 11:27 GMT
#27657
Double tap portkey and ult in a random place with soulstealer. Screw you S2.
<3 Liquid
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 11 2011 12:50 GMT
#27658

In 6.72-oriented competitions, will you expect Lycan to be a strong carry? If so, what is the approach a team should take to suppress his development in the game?
-"Lycan is rather strong as a carry. He develops fast, pushes towers down fast and has high DPS. His primary weakness would be that he is a melee carry, and the minute he enters the battlefield he has to start planning his exit after his ultimate wears off. If you want to stop Lycan, you would have to pick heroes with magic immune spells - Batrider and Enigma are both good choices for this."

pushes towers down fast. no kidding.

LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
July 11 2011 12:55 GMT
#27659
On July 11 2011 20:27 Fishes wrote:
Double tap portkey and ult in a random place with soulstealer. Screw you S2.

can disable in options trolololol
Meh.
babishh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada965 Posts
July 11 2011 14:42 GMT
#27660
On July 10 2011 07:27 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:20 Judicator wrote:
On July 10 2011 05:35 rabidch wrote:
On July 10 2011 04:26 Judicator wrote:
On July 10 2011 03:56 Nevuk wrote:
On July 10 2011 03:42 Jayme wrote:
On July 09 2011 23:34 Alur wrote:
On July 09 2011 21:03 wonderwall wrote:

Removal of secret shop makes turtling with a carry stronger, it used to be possible for you to push up outside their rax and if you couldn't push in just ward around the shop and prevent them from ever getting their 2500 gold items, rendering their farm effectively useless. Granted it rarely happened but it was definitely a factor in a fair amount of games.


When did that ever occur? With winged courier speed and invulnerability that seems incredibly unlikely.

Disregarding the risk associated with sending out courier with no map control, you still have to account for travel time. Meaning if you can afford a crucial item just as your opponents are killing your rax - you're in trouble. In addition to that I just found courier usage at those stages akward, especially in tense situations.


There is really no risk to sending out the courier because you could just send it in the tree line until you got to the shop, used invuln, got your thing and gtfo.

I just found the secret shop a massive inconvenience.

Not when you can put down a ward that covers the entrance to the secret shop on both sides by air (although legion's is really hard and involves a very small pixel count placement), and when all heroes hit for hard enouhg to kill the courier in 1 hit.

And when I play behemoth I buy 4-6 mana pots and bird the courier, then just keep flying mana pots to pretty much keep up at all times while roaming. (I saw china do this first and just copied it). He doesn't need to farm after he gets pk so I don't really see the point in mana regen on him.


I don't know about HoN, but if I saw an ES do that in DotA, it's a massive sign of not knowing what the fuck they're doing. 2 Mana Pots should carry you over to your first item and if not, you're not going to need any mana regen.

HoN players seem to like fast PK. I don't think it's as useful without imba ult and mana is strained for a little bit after you get it and when you're getting it, so there is a very visible downside to it.


Again, don't know about HoN, but mana is one of the cheapest stat to afford in the game.

One point of stats is common early on, skipping a point in enrage (the second skill), which lets you fissure twice at levels 3 + 5 with an almost full mana pool. I get a power supply (wand) and go straight blink after that, it shaves about 3-4 minutes off blink over going for chalice (the most common option which needs hp regen instead of mana regen). I ocasionally see level 8 behe with 4/0/2/1/(1) , but I typically go 4/1/1/1/(1).

It's certainly true that you can get mana for cheap, but blink is expensive and you have to save up for a long time to get it, and in a team fight until you have a pk a fissure, ult, and stomp are all the mana needed about 90% of the time (and the other 10% the wand will give you enough typically). After pk I may pick up a +3 int item or so just for blink mana.

Striders are basically a free haste rune, it would be really hard to get this working without them.


i think skipping enrage with behe is quite silly, you are going to waste a 50mana stun for what, 0.2 longer stun? my usual skill order is 1 - 3 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 4 .... but lately i'm going for enrage at lvl 3 to take advantage of said stun.

anyway, i think my opinion is shared by the majority of the people (or at least this is what i always thought)
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