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Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
May 18 2011 20:22 GMT
#25881
sure you can gift coins - just use the web interface at https://www.heroesofnewerth.com/purchase.php

DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
May 18 2011 20:25 GMT
#25882
On May 19 2011 04:36 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 02:37 Sm3agol wrote:
On May 18 2011 21:09 shalafi wrote:
Electrician is the hardest counter to jeraziah. But long-duration silences also work wonders. A hexflower bubbles or defiler can shut down jeraziah singlehandedly (or if you want to go that far, Blood Hunter).

But if it's AR, and you have no good long duration silences or a dedicated counter pick, you're just f'ed? That doesn't seem right......

Yeah if you have a decent player on tempest or jeraziah in an SD or AR game you're pretty much guaranteed a decent advantage, but SD and AR are half luck anyways
I got matched up against two people that would only play AP and lastpick jeraziah+someone to lane with him twice in a row, and they were probably 150~250 mmr above where they should've been


yeah, don't play sd/ar if you care about winning consistently.
play bp/bd and outpick the other team.
honestly, improving your abilities in the picking phase and laning phase is easiest way to dominate pub teams up until the 1900 level.
of course if you want to just play for fun and play other modes that's cool too, just don't expect the outcome of the game to be entirely dependant on skill level because some heroes/team makeups/lanes have really hard counters in this game (assuming your allies have the necessary skills to use those counters effectively).
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
May 18 2011 20:26 GMT
#25883
On May 19 2011 05:22 Glull wrote:
sure you can gift coins - just use the web interface at https://www.heroesofnewerth.com/purchase.php


oh my bad, didn't know that existed.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 18 2011 20:27 GMT
#25884
FREE HON WEEK
WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE CAN THROW DOLPHINS?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
May 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#25885
On May 19 2011 05:27 L wrote:
FREE HON WEEK
WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE CAN THROW DOLPHINS?


ding ding ding

:D
mangina
Profile Joined March 2008
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 20:43:35
May 18 2011 20:40 GMT
#25886
On May 19 2011 05:27 L wrote:
FREE HON WEEK
WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE CAN THROW DOLPHINS?


Free HoN week? I just installed HoN on my comp recently. I just checked the website, I don't see anything about free HoN. Can you explain? I want to get my friends to play. I have it but barely played.

EDIT: scratch that, it's right on the front page. wtf, when did this happen?? >:O

EDIT: aww man... it's only a trial
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 18 2011 20:45 GMT
#25887
On May 19 2011 05:08 DevAzTaYtA wrote:
dude, you can't gift coins (unless it was an s2 guy)
you get extra coins just for playing your first game in the "honniversary" week.


Well, I doubt S2 gave me 1600 GOLD coins for my first game in honniversary.
Chains none
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 22:43:56
May 18 2011 22:39 GMT
#25888
On May 19 2011 03:28 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 22:27 lozarian wrote:
Player 1 has picked sniper
Player 2 has picked SA

you: Hey guys, they're really push heavy, we need to counter it or we'll just lose in 20 minutes.

Player 3: stfu noob I pro
Player 2: np I kill fsat
Player 1: solo mid

Player 3 has picked terrorblade

You: no, seriously guys, we can't all be agi carries, they'll just roll us, look, I'll take shaker, we need more aoe or disables.
you pick shaker

player 5: sry back
player 5 has picked bounty hunter


you: -.- Ok, this can still work, sniper you just need to get your shrapnel and if we survive it's ok. I'll do my best to get a dagger, and we can delay. SA we need your smoke up high - it'll keep our towers alive
Player1 : wtf shrapnel noob skill
Player 2: kk I get smoke (at level 14)

Sure, you've done your best. You've tried.

It's still not YOUR fault you've got rax down at 12 minutes to pugna furion chen techies cm. There is only so much you can do personally. When your allies sit and farm when you need to defend, when your towers fall like flies becuase the bh is busy killing gnolls for his vlads.

Don't pretend this doesn't happen, becuase it does. If you think it doesn't, you clearly haven't played a PROPER pub in a long time.


This is, absolutely, no holds barred, 100%, completely the problem with pubs in DotA. I used to main ES because I thought, "es+average team = pwnage." Little did I realize that I would always get 4 agi carries with me, telling me how much I sucked for being 0-4-22 (in a good game). In games like you mentioned, people absolutely do not listen, and think, "I'll just go rice for 20 mins then I'll be pro." People absolutely do not understand the team aspect to the game.

I stopped playing ES and now I just play OP Treeant because with a team he's great, and without a team he still comes out positive KDR so I don't have to listen to incessant whining from the 4 agi carry team.



You can't win all games, regardless of how well you play. But you can get pretty damn close provided the a) skillgap between you and the rest of the players in the game is big enough and b) you can succesfully rally your team.
Your best bet with those shitty agi-lineups is to pick a hero to go mid with that can apply pressure until midgame, ideally longer. The problem with this though is that in anything but high-end pubs you'll probably meet their strongest player on the opposing team in the midlane. If he's better than you or if his pick counters yours (and the skill gap between the two of you isn't wide enough to make up for it) you're in deep shit though. The problem with going mid on pubs is you'll often have to insta-pick and claim it or the random ~50-55% winrate agi player will claim it, which leaves you very open to being counterpicked :/
Many a pub can be won almost solely by punishing the opposing team sufficiently in the first 15-20 minutes as it almost always destroys their morale, which always results in the little teamplay they may have had completely collapses.

The point isn't that you should take every loss on your own shoulders, but rather than whenever you play those absolutely horrendous games you should still attempt to pick up as much you can from the game rather than simply blaming your team and moving on to the next one.
And if you want to improve rapidly, don't emphasize too much on winning. Winning pubs often involves taking as few unnecessary risks as possible which overall means you'll get less experience in terms of how far you can push your hero in a given situation as well as the importance of timing and position.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 19 2011 00:38 GMT
#25889
Basically pubs are kill-driven games, and there is much more payoff from killing heroes than there should be, especially for the "winning" team. That shit would not fly at all in high skill games, which is a concept that is impossible to explain to pubscrubs.

Get it by your hands...
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 19 2011 00:44 GMT
#25890
low lvl pubs you can just "force" their team into 1 lane defensively then just walk around the map freely its kinda sad :p
Meh.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 19 2011 01:02 GMT
#25891
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224516
Your thread is invited to play for glory and supremacy over all over tl communities!
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 19 2011 01:05 GMT
#25892
Np pokebunny wipe them up LOL
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
May 19 2011 01:06 GMT
#25893
hey guys +2 for inhouse
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 19 2011 01:52 GMT
#25894
On May 19 2011 10:02 redFF wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224516
Your thread is invited to play for glory and supremacy over all over tl communities!

I'm in... anyone wanna be "captain"? Can't be assed to organized but I'll wipe the floor with these clowns.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 19 2011 02:08 GMT
#25895
On May 19 2011 05:40 mangina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 05:27 L wrote:
FREE HON WEEK
WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE CAN THROW DOLPHINS?


Free HoN week? I just installed HoN on my comp recently. I just checked the website, I don't see anything about free HoN. Can you explain? I want to get my friends to play. I have it but barely played.

EDIT: scratch that, it's right on the front page. wtf, when did this happen?? >:O

EDIT: aww man... it's only a trial

YO SON LET'S PLAY
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 19 2011 02:16 GMT
#25896
Can someone give me a quick rundown of the current HoN competitive scene? Last I checked SK were dominating, MSI was on a losing streak and EG just lost chu and someone else (how the hell do I not remember...)
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
May 19 2011 02:29 GMT
#25897
Got HON for the free play, community is as ragefilled as I remembered from my brief stint in the beta, but still giving it a more honest go this time around. Somewhat confusing at first.
Nihn'kas Neehn
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
May 19 2011 02:44 GMT
#25898
So whos the captain for the hon team? We need to get this shit started.
Never give up
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
May 19 2011 02:50 GMT
#25899
On May 19 2011 10:06 tube wrote:
hey guys +2 for inhouse

FUUUUUUU
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#25900
On May 19 2011 11:16 Ruscour wrote:
Can someone give me a quick rundown of the current HoN competitive scene? Last I checked SK were dominating, MSI was on a losing streak and EG just lost chu and someone else (how the hell do I not remember...)


Basically SK is still dominating, they've had a rocky road recently, being disqualified from GG.net's tournament (i think) for using ringers. Korok and bdiz left for EG and SK picked up JoshP and Merlini, don't know if Josh is still with them. EG and MSI are still good teams but nowhere near where they used to be. DRD just beat EG senseless a couple of days ago. Then you have teams like DWi and OK which are doing pretty well but also losing games here and there. Duskbin is still doing okay and there's a new KD team with Rexi and Era and some other guys I don't remember. Oh yeah, Sender also joined SK.

Hope that helped

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