[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1199

On March 15 2011 06:23 JeeJee wrote:


how can it be unequivocally true? you certainly didn't do any studies on it and i seriously doubt 'playing all three extensively' constitutes anything other than opinion, provided you played none of the three at a remotely high level

so i suggest "sorry, it's true" should be rephrased to "sorry, i think it's true based on X" and then we can debate X
because as of right now, you are definitely wrong.

On March 16 2011 06:07 SK.Testie wrote:
Heen, message me on HoN and I will play some games with you.
Are you still in Korea? What server can you play on that doesn't give you 300+ ping? o_O)?

On March 16 2011 06:50 Rakanishu2 wrote:


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.

And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.

HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.

Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.

But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.

On March 16 2011 06:50 Rakanishu2 wrote:


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.
hold on, you want me to prove why it isn't unambiguously true? prove there isn't a unicorn in my backyard pls. brb insert any religious argument here.
it's not being hypocritical when the burden of proof is on you, not me.
And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.
this thread is for moba games discussion, this type of stuff is exactly what this thread is for, why would i take it to PMs?
HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.
there are definitely more heroes picked in dota, for many reasons. not the least of which is that there are more heroes to begin with. shall we get into the numbers?
Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.
how does striders being brought in makes support roles more skill oriented and increases variety? last i checked, that's the only boot supports get nowadays. strong variety there.
alch bones was such a recent change (what was it, like last week?) and it was virtually unused before then, and it's too early to determine how often it will be used now. such statements a la 'this brand new item now has a really solid role' are silly.
But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.
i'd rather have it here

On March 16 2011 09:35 Judicator wrote:


Clearly they were not ready.

On March 16 2011 08:09 icemac wrote:
I think MoM Invoker is pretty op. I think rabid will defend my case for me.

On March 16 2011 10:46 don_kyuhote wrote:

Add basher to that, and you have my endorsement.
It is the machinegun-vjekpleh build.

On March 16 2011 10:50 rabidch wrote:

i told you omgirok already patented that stupid build

On March 16 2011 12:01 BlueRoyaL wrote:
yo guys, i has a question.

so for all mid wars (casual mode, only mid, no respawn timer), what do you think the best heroes are?

If it's all STR i find kraken to be pretty annoying
for AGIL, sniper
for INT, DR and bubbles.. mostly DR though