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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
March 15 2011 21:27 GMT
#23961
You can mute people by clicking the chat icons on the left on their hero portraits and /ic ignores chat
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 21:51:37
March 15 2011 21:50 GMT
#23962
On March 15 2011 06:23 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 05:10 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On March 14 2011 06:30 Firereaver wrote:
On March 11 2011 09:02 Rakanishu2 wrote:
From someone who played all three extensively, HoN requires the most knowledge and skill, by far.

LOOOOOOOOOOLololololol.
HoN requires more knowledge and skill than DotA!????!
Seriously just quit plaing straightaway if you think so. Please spectate some professional DotA and then see if you can tolerate any professional HoN !
Also while you're at it, you have all the freedom to stop spouting BS like that!


Sorry, it's true.

before you reply: take it to PMs, I'm not going to argue with you in public when that's the way you address posts.


how can it be unequivocally true? you certainly didn't do any studies on it and i seriously doubt 'playing all three extensively' constitutes anything other than opinion, provided you played none of the three at a remotely high level

so i suggest "sorry, it's true" should be rephrased to "sorry, i think it's true based on X" and then we can debate X
because as of right now, you are definitely wrong.


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.

And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.

HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.

Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.

But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 15 2011 22:05 GMT
#23963
On March 16 2011 06:07 SK.Testie wrote:
Heen, message me on HoN and I will play some games with you.
Are you still in Korea? What server can you play on that doesn't give you 300+ ping? o_O)?

I just thumbs down EU server and usually I'll get 200 ping which is fine.

It's like every game I'm yellow or orange, meaning I have the lowest PSR, some faggot can pin the blame on me when our team's getting owned for so many reasons. I should team up with [SK]Testie and nobody will mess with me :p
('''(G_G/'''')
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 15 2011 22:08 GMT
#23964
How unpopular is hon in Korea? I know there are lol cafes on Daum and such.
Stuck.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 15 2011 22:16 GMT
#23965
Not very I suppose. I don't think anyone with no dota background tried HoN in Korea. I mean the DotA community's around 20-30k total so HoN is probably like... a thousand, at most.
('''(G_G/'''')
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
March 15 2011 22:18 GMT
#23966
I just had a game with an insta scout pick, a wb and a wildsoul and we won lol
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 15 2011 22:23 GMT
#23967
On March 16 2011 06:50 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:23 JeeJee wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:10 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On March 14 2011 06:30 Firereaver wrote:
On March 11 2011 09:02 Rakanishu2 wrote:
From someone who played all three extensively, HoN requires the most knowledge and skill, by far.

LOOOOOOOOOOLololololol.
HoN requires more knowledge and skill than DotA!????!
Seriously just quit plaing straightaway if you think so. Please spectate some professional DotA and then see if you can tolerate any professional HoN !
Also while you're at it, you have all the freedom to stop spouting BS like that!


Sorry, it's true.

before you reply: take it to PMs, I'm not going to argue with you in public when that's the way you address posts.


how can it be unequivocally true? you certainly didn't do any studies on it and i seriously doubt 'playing all three extensively' constitutes anything other than opinion, provided you played none of the three at a remotely high level

so i suggest "sorry, it's true" should be rephrased to "sorry, i think it's true based on X" and then we can debate X
because as of right now, you are definitely wrong.


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.

And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.

HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.

Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.

But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.

Take it to PMs
whats this thread for
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 15 2011 22:32 GMT
#23968
On March 16 2011 06:50 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 06:23 JeeJee wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:10 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On March 14 2011 06:30 Firereaver wrote:
On March 11 2011 09:02 Rakanishu2 wrote:
From someone who played all three extensively, HoN requires the most knowledge and skill, by far.

LOOOOOOOOOOLololololol.
HoN requires more knowledge and skill than DotA!????!
Seriously just quit plaing straightaway if you think so. Please spectate some professional DotA and then see if you can tolerate any professional HoN !
Also while you're at it, you have all the freedom to stop spouting BS like that!


Sorry, it's true.

before you reply: take it to PMs, I'm not going to argue with you in public when that's the way you address posts.


how can it be unequivocally true? you certainly didn't do any studies on it and i seriously doubt 'playing all three extensively' constitutes anything other than opinion, provided you played none of the three at a remotely high level

so i suggest "sorry, it's true" should be rephrased to "sorry, i think it's true based on X" and then we can debate X
because as of right now, you are definitely wrong.


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.
hold on, you want me to prove why it isn't unambiguously true? prove there isn't a unicorn in my backyard pls. brb insert any religious argument here.
it's not being hypocritical when the burden of proof is on you, not me.

And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.
this thread is for moba games discussion, this type of stuff is exactly what this thread is for, why would i take it to PMs?
HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.
there are definitely more heroes picked in dota, for many reasons. not the least of which is that there are more heroes to begin with. shall we get into the numbers?
Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.
how does striders being brought in makes support roles more skill oriented and increases variety? last i checked, that's the only boot supports get nowadays. strong variety there.
alch bones was such a recent change (what was it, like last week?) and it was virtually unused before then, and it's too early to determine how often it will be used now. such statements a la 'this brand new item now has a really solid role' are silly.

But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.
i'd rather have it here

(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 15 2011 23:00 GMT
#23969
On March 16 2011 07:32 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:50 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On March 15 2011 06:23 JeeJee wrote:
On March 15 2011 05:10 Rakanishu2 wrote:
On March 14 2011 06:30 Firereaver wrote:
On March 11 2011 09:02 Rakanishu2 wrote:
From someone who played all three extensively, HoN requires the most knowledge and skill, by far.

LOOOOOOOOOOLololololol.
HoN requires more knowledge and skill than DotA!????!
Seriously just quit plaing straightaway if you think so. Please spectate some professional DotA and then see if you can tolerate any professional HoN !
Also while you're at it, you have all the freedom to stop spouting BS like that!


Sorry, it's true.

before you reply: take it to PMs, I'm not going to argue with you in public when that's the way you address posts.


how can it be unequivocally true? you certainly didn't do any studies on it and i seriously doubt 'playing all three extensively' constitutes anything other than opinion, provided you played none of the three at a remotely high level

so i suggest "sorry, it's true" should be rephrased to "sorry, i think it's true based on X" and then we can debate X
because as of right now, you are definitely wrong.


For someone who steps in and lectures me on debate tactics and formalities, coming in and saying I'm wrong without a "because" of your own, pretty much makes you a hypocrite.
hold on, you want me to prove why it isn't unambiguously true? prove there isn't a unicorn in my backyard pls. brb insert any religious argument here.
it's not being hypocritical when the burden of proof is on you, not me.

And I'd love to talk to either of you in PMs, I don't want to crap on this thread like you would like to. But neither of you has made it to that step yet.
this thread is for moba games discussion, this type of stuff is exactly what this thread is for, why would i take it to PMs?
HoN gets more variety into the picks, all 3 different styles of game have been succesfully achieved (heavy farm-carry based, Gank-heavy style, Push heavy style), there's much more variety in the heros picked when compared to DotA. So in terms of more skill being needed, there's inherently more variety in high level HoN, which insinuates more knowledge and skill being required.
there are definitely more heroes picked in dota, for many reasons. not the least of which is that there are more heroes to begin with. shall we get into the numbers?
Several of the items were better balanced, making some of the useless ones from DotA really have solid roles (Hand of Midas --> alch bones comes to mind as a recent example), you see much more variety in the items picks, all 5 different types of boots get selected often for a concrete example, striders being brought in makes heavy support roles much more skill-oriented.
how does striders being brought in makes support roles more skill oriented and increases variety? last i checked, that's the only boot supports get nowadays. strong variety there.
alch bones was such a recent change (what was it, like last week?) and it was virtually unused before then, and it's too early to determine how often it will be used now. such statements a la 'this brand new item now has a really solid role' are silly.

But really, I'm not going to sit here and list all the small differences that make HoN more varied and demanding than DotA, if you want to talk, take it to PMs.
i'd rather have it here


all 3 styles are played too. the only useless item is basher unless you're one of those tards that gets basher over mkb (LOL PLEASE), all boots are useful too, just phase boots not so much
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
March 15 2011 23:09 GMT
#23970
I think MoM Invoker is pretty op. I think rabid will defend my case for me.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 15 2011 23:13 GMT
#23971
Rakanishu2's post can be summed up as:

Hi I haven't paid too close attention to either HoN or DotA but I'll try to compare them using some flimsy logic and arguments that sounds right in my head and spit them out there as fact.

There's no debate because I can simply rattle off all of the popular strategies and heroes since 6.27...OH WAIT I ALREADY DID.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 16 2011 00:33 GMT
#23972
[image loading]
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 16 2011 00:35 GMT
#23973
On March 16 2011 09:33 rabidch wrote:
[image loading]


Clearly they were not ready.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 16 2011 01:32 GMT
#23974
On March 16 2011 09:35 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:33 rabidch wrote:
[image loading]


Clearly they were not ready.

nobody can be ready for that many terrorblades
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
March 16 2011 01:46 GMT
#23975
On March 16 2011 08:09 icemac wrote:
I think MoM Invoker is pretty op. I think rabid will defend my case for me.

Add basher to that, and you have my endorsement.
It is the machinegun-vjekpleh build.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#23976
On March 16 2011 10:46 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:09 icemac wrote:
I think MoM Invoker is pretty op. I think rabid will defend my case for me.

Add basher to that, and you have my endorsement.
It is the machinegun-vjekpleh build.

i told you omgirok already patented that stupid build
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 16 2011 02:27 GMT
#23977
On March 16 2011 10:50 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:46 don_kyuhote wrote:
On March 16 2011 08:09 icemac wrote:
I think MoM Invoker is pretty op. I think rabid will defend my case for me.

Add basher to that, and you have my endorsement.
It is the machinegun-vjekpleh build.

i told you omgirok already patented that stupid build


dude this don kyuhote guy is trying to copy me
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 16 2011 03:01 GMT
#23978
yo guys, i has a question.

so for all mid wars (casual mode, only mid, no respawn timer), what do you think the best heroes are?

If it's all STR i find kraken to be pretty annoying
for AGIL, sniper
for INT, DR and bubbles.. mostly DR though
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 16 2011 03:29 GMT
#23979
str=MORAXUSSSSSSS
:3
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#23980
On March 16 2011 12:01 BlueRoyaL wrote:
yo guys, i has a question.

so for all mid wars (casual mode, only mid, no respawn timer), what do you think the best heroes are?

If it's all STR i find kraken to be pretty annoying
for AGIL, sniper
for INT, DR and bubbles.. mostly DR though

actually silencer is very good in int wars
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
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