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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
January 18 2011 18:49 GMT
#22961
On January 19 2011 01:11 M2 wrote:
Guys, I am new to the game and I have 2 probably stupid questions regarding the Warlock hero. Hope someone can answer:-))

1). About the Fatal bonds spell- how does it works? I understand the idea/concept, but my question is about the mechanics, coz its explained that it is a AoE spell, so I was expecting when I press the F button to see a big shiny circle which defines in what area it will curse the enemies, instead I am seeing a small pointer to target a single unit/hero. So how does it works ? I target the hero and in the given area around it random units are affected or its something else??

2) The upheavel is said to be 3 sec. channeling spell, does it mean that when I cast it I should not move my hero for 3 seconds for the spell to take full or effect or it channels automatically in the area of effect regardless ?

Thanks in advance

1) It links to any enemy units within range of the targeted unit. I'm pretty sure it targets heroes over creeps

2) Yes, you have to keep your hero still during the channel
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
January 18 2011 20:06 GMT
#22962
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 18 2011 21:12 GMT
#22963
On January 19 2011 05:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?

I don't like to dote anybody.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
January 18 2011 21:20 GMT
#22964
On January 19 2011 05:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?


wtf tygs is here
u mirin' brah?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
January 19 2011 05:00 GMT
#22965
On January 19 2011 06:20 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?


wtf tygs is here
u mirin' brah?


JeeJeeJeeJee Baby Baby
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 06:25:02
January 19 2011 06:19 GMT
#22966
On January 19 2011 14:00 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 06:20 JeeJee wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?


wtf tygs is here
u mirin' brah?


JeeJeeJeeJee Baby Baby

i knew you were asian. dont fucking deny it

oh yeah and stop it with the asian pride crap
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 19 2011 16:55 GMT
#22967
On January 19 2011 15:19 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 14:00 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On January 19 2011 06:20 JeeJee wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On January 19 2011 00:35 buckbo1604 wrote:
On January 18 2011 14:16 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Shit. TDOT meet up? I know a good pool hall if anyone is interested. Shinbz is pretty bad but he's fun to play with cause...he's bad.


Soon. After winter. Spring/summer.

I really dont want to travel atm.


Sounds good.

Also, does anyone play Doter anymore here?


wtf tygs is here
u mirin' brah?


JeeJeeJeeJee Baby Baby

i knew you were asian. dont fucking deny it

oh yeah and stop it with the asian pride crap

Tygs tried tricking me aswell, he couldnt though. Hes one of those obviasians.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 20:13:07
January 19 2011 20:11 GMT
#22968
On January 17 2011 10:51 MYM.Testie wrote:
Unlikely.
My ego has grown.
It's $1500 an hour.

I see you have been taking proper care of it, didn't think it could grow more ;D

btw... WATS UP TLHON?!
edit: (/tl.dota)
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 20:47:45
January 19 2011 20:46 GMT
#22969
i knew you were asian. dont fucking deny it

oh yeah and stop it with the asian pride crap


Tygs tried tricking me aswell, he couldnt though. Hes one of those obviasians.


Oh you two are such qts.
Zhek
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada342 Posts
January 19 2011 23:08 GMT
#22970
Upcoming new hero Empath

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Dem thighs.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
January 19 2011 23:12 GMT
#22971
so chipper can shoot rockets while he's teleporting away
you mad?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 19 2011 23:41 GMT
#22972
On January 20 2011 08:08 Zhek wrote:
Upcoming new hero Empath

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Dem thighs.


On January 20 2011 08:12 JeeJee wrote:
so chipper can shoot rockets while he's teleporting away
you mad?


it looks like she can shoot rockets out of those thighs to teleport
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
January 20 2011 00:35 GMT
#22973
On January 20 2011 08:41 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 08:08 Zhek wrote:
Upcoming new hero Empath

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Dem thighs.


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 08:12 JeeJee wrote:
so chipper can shoot rockets while he's teleporting away
you mad?


it looks like she can shoot rockets out of those thighs to teleport


indeed. 4000th post to say
dat ass > dem tits
always.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
January 20 2011 00:51 GMT
#22974
Dayum @ Empath.

Possibly another name would be better.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 20 2011 06:39 GMT
#22975
New support heroes are always welcome :D
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
January 20 2011 08:25 GMT
#22976
Hi guys
I have another noob question regarding the Warlock.

I made an Aghanim yesterday thinking that two Infernals will be great, however it appeared that the two infernals have exactly half of the HP and the Damage amount than the regular infernal and I cannot understand how is this an upgrade at all. I would understand if two complete infernals is consider too powerful or something and the 2nd one to be weaker, I can also understand if either the HP or the Damage of the infernals is decreased in half, but not both, because now it looks like a downgrade - First you have to control two units to make the same amount of damage as the one you had before and 2nd if someone targets the infernals when the 1st die you will have half the damage output comparing to having the big infernal at half HP but full damage.

So can someone explain to me how is Aghanim not a downgrade for the warclock or even more: how is it an upgrade?

Thanks in advance

Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 08:36:42
January 20 2011 08:35 GMT
#22977
On January 20 2011 17:25 M2 wrote:
Hi guys
I have another noob question regarding the Warlock.

I made an Aghanim yesterday thinking that two Infernals will be great, however it appeared that the two infernals have exactly half of the HP and the Damage amount than the regular infernal and I cannot understand how is this an upgrade at all. I would understand if two complete infernals is consider too powerful or something and the 2nd one to be weaker, I can also understand if either the HP or the Damage of the infernals is decreased in half, but not both, because now it looks like a downgrade - First you have to control two units to make the same amount of damage as the one you had before and 2nd if someone targets the infernals when the 1st die you will have half the damage output comparing to having the big infernal at half HP but full damage.

So can someone explain to me how is Aghanim not a downgrade for the warclock or even more: how is it an upgrade?

Thanks in advance


To my understanding this is a buff because one infernal lands just after the other, each of them having their own seperate impact, doubling the stun/dmg AoE part of the spell. This is effectively throwing two warlock ults sucsession (albeit with nerfed infernals). Couple this with a refresher and you're looking at 400 dmg, 4 second stun in a huge AoE. Not to mention the 4 infernals.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 08:41:46
January 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#22978
On January 20 2011 17:25 M2 wrote:
Hi guys
I have another noob question regarding the Warlock.

I made an Aghanim yesterday thinking that two Infernals will be great, however it appeared that the two infernals have exactly half of the HP and the Damage amount than the regular infernal and I cannot understand how is this an upgrade at all. I would understand if two complete infernals is consider too powerful or something and the 2nd one to be weaker, I can also understand if either the HP or the Damage of the infernals is decreased in half, but not both, because now it looks like a downgrade - First you have to control two units to make the same amount of damage as the one you had before and 2nd if someone targets the infernals when the 1st die you will have half the damage output comparing to having the big infernal at half HP but full damage.

So can someone explain to me how is Aghanim not a downgrade for the warclock or even more: how is it an upgrade?

Thanks in advance


in competitive games infernals are usually zapped instantly with a diffusal anyway, and the stun is really multi purpose since it goes through bkb.

one more thing:
• Immolations of multiple Infernals stack.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
January 20 2011 22:50 GMT
#22979
You use the rock for the massive aoe superior magic stun, the actual damage that the infernals themselves output is inconsequential.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 23:00:12
January 20 2011 22:59 GMT
#22980
More like, it makes Warlock playable since all the changes to his skills.

There was 0 reasons to play Warlock before this item change:

1. His laning ability is outclassed by Puck/WR/Enigma
2. His item progression blew ass, one of the few int heroes that after getting Guinsoo becomes 20x more reliant on his team. You can't solo anyone and you have a spell that self-stuns you.
3. His babysitting ability is like a billion times worse than Dazzle.
4. Inferno is useless because you get railed by Diffusal

So there you go, reasons why Aghs actually makes him semi-playable.
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