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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-21 12:05:28
February 21 2024 11:30 GMT
#1
Do I Spend $40 USD On The Regular Edition OR $60 USD On The Deluxe Edition?
You only need to buy the $40 USD standard edition. Purchasing the "Digital Deluxe" or "Super Citizen" edition for ~$60 USD is a luxury that just makes it easier/faster to get advanced weapons and armour. The "Super Citizen Edition" comes with the Premium Battle Pass for free. The Premium BattlePass is called "Premium Warbond : Steeled Veterans". This costs 1000 "Super Credits". The "Super Credits" are the premium in game currency. 1000 "Super Credits" amounts to ~$10 USD. You can acquire "Super Credits" in game easily and routinely. I already have 250 Super Credits and I've mainly been screwing around. The Premium Battle Pass is 1000 Super Credits. If I focused on it I could probably amass 1000 Super Credits in a weekend of playing and I'm a 5/10 mediocre FPS player. A good FPS player can probably acquire 1000 Super Credits in one day.

The Free Battle Pass has the ability to acquire "Super Credits" as well.

If are pressed for time and have lots of spare cash buying the $60 USD "Super Citizens Edition" is a good idea. If not, go with the $40 USD Standard Edition. I got the "Super Citizen Edition" because I have more money than brains.

08/02/2024: Game Launches.


15/02/2024: Automaton Invasion


Here is a decent guide to the background story of Hell Divers 2.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162535703

20/02/2024: A patch today cleared up a lot of "Quick Match" issues. You can now jump in on other people's missions very easily. The team must request emergency help for you to be able to jump in.

21/02/2024: There are global level macro campaigns revolving around "Defending" a bunch of planets. Currently, the global community has 8 days left to win at least 8 "Defend Campaigns". So far, 3 have been done. I suspect teh developer or the game itself tunes the difficulty of defending a planet is in order to make sure the Campaign has somewhere near a 50/50 shot at success.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4724 Posts
February 21 2024 13:02 GMT
#2
Seems like a fun game but what about the anti cheating software that supposedly might conpromise your computer?
I believe it's called nGuard Protect. Don't know alot about it, but giving a third party root access is for many a red flag. Maybe someone else more knowledgeable can share some insight?
Taxes are for Terrans
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 21 2024 14:16 GMT
#3
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
February 21 2024 15:24 GMT
#4
Galaxy Quest > Starship Troopers
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
February 21 2024 18:20 GMT
#5
On February 21 2024 23:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKHme9MvMx0


God, this never gets old. xD
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-21 18:58:42
February 21 2024 18:34 GMT
#6
the fastest way to skip the queue is to join a friend's game via the Steam friends list.
the CEO guy stated an auto AFK kick is coming in a patch so people can't just hang out in the game for hours.
Only one time since I bought the game have I had to wait a long time if I chose not to skip the queue. I'm in the north east USA. Usually I wait 0 to 10 minutes when going straight into the game and not using the skip the queue trick.
On February 21 2024 22:02 Uldridge wrote:
Seems like a fun game but what about the anti cheating software that supposedly might conpromise your computer?

No sacrifice is too great when defending America, Freedom, Democracy, and the United States Federal Treasury! ! !
Every second you delay a Helldiver mission more innocent civilians lives are at risk.
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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 21 2024 19:55 GMT
#7
I really hope this game gets Clan support soon. Would be very welcome.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13848 Posts
February 21 2024 22:29 GMT
#8
Game has great vibes and just incredible attention to detail when it comes to enemy design and animations. Of you are prone when reloading the animation is different if you are face down or face up.

Bugs and bots are completely different but either faction is both impressively coherent within themselves but varied in actual units. You can tell they're all the same team but have clear differences on how to fight them and for from them.

When the servers have capacity and quick match works good its going to be worth the wait.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
February 21 2024 22:56 GMT
#9
It is absolutely peak time right now. I got in .. in 8 minutes. I'm a happy Helldiver!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-22 11:55:28
February 22 2024 11:55 GMT
#10
Evenings in Europe are crazy. 2 hour waits are nothing out of the ordinary there.

Nice tip Jimmy. Will try today with the skip queue
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-22 19:35:55
February 22 2024 16:08 GMT
#11
New Patch.
If you are AFK for 15+ minutes you'll get kicked from the game.
Arrowhead promises better back end server performance with this patch as well.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4192358592269013041?l=english

I have 500 "Super Credits" Premium Currency now. I'm level 10.

EDIT: I'm getting into the game instantly.
Ubanea, a planet where a defense attempt was made, has fallen to the Automatons. LOL. 100% Automaton control.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-23 14:29:19
February 23 2024 14:22 GMT
#12
Another Patch. Concurrent player cap at 700,000.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4192358592272626253?l=english

People are killing each other for loot like "Super Credits", "Samples", and "Requisitions". Hilarious stuff. They do not realize that all the stuff team mates pick up are given to the entire team. So when a team mate picks up 20 "Super Credits" everyone on the team gets 20 "Super Credits".
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1axicgx/you_share_all_samples_requisition_creds_super/

Friendly fire is awesome!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 23 2024 18:05 GMT
#13
Yeah, played last night on PS5 had no problem at all logging on. Was on my ship instantly.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-23 20:08:59
February 23 2024 20:05 GMT
#14
I'm on Steam. I'm in upstate New York,North east USA... playing with friends in Toronto, Washington DC, and Florida. Servers are working great for every one. No lag. Buttery smooth.

SPECULATION: Alien race enters the edge of the map in a few months. This new race wins every planetary war and makes a direct line to earth over the course of several weeks or months. There is a month long war on Mars. The humans lose. A $40 expansion pack is introduced and this time next year there is a "battle for the survival of the human race" on planet Earth in the center of the galaxy map.

In order to do the fighting on earth... you will have to buy the $40 expansion pack.
You'll be able to fight other places with the base game. However, the most crucial fighting ... for the future of human existence ... will require $40. LOL
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 24 2024 00:10 GMT
#15
These high level fights are fucking insane.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-24 19:46:56
February 24 2024 19:31 GMT
#16
I say the background story takes more from Orwell's 1984 than the Starship Troopers video game.
No server issues on Friday.

Helldivers 1 ended up with 4 enemy races/factions. It'll be interesting to see the new races/factions introduced in Helldivers 2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-25 15:13:33
February 25 2024 12:52 GMT
#17
This is definitely a $40 USD video game. It is not a full multi featured multi aspect game that demands a full $60 or $70 price tag. I am 25 hours in.

I'm rockin' scout armour and a sniper rifle. Nuttin' like shooting the #1 enemy in the back of the head from 100 meters away.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 25 2024 14:57 GMT
#18
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-25 23:02:32
February 25 2024 21:34 GMT
#19
did a low rating on Steam auto-trigger a discount by the publisher of Helldivers2?

Why would the publisher offer a 17% discount so soon after a super successful release?

The code FEB17 gives a 17% discount on Green Man Gaming.
https://www.greenmangaming.com/

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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
February 26 2024 08:36 GMT
#20
On February 24 2024 05:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'm on Steam. I'm in upstate New York,North east USA... playing with friends in Toronto, Washington DC, and Florida. Servers are working great for every one. No lag. Buttery smooth.

SPECULATION: Alien race enters the edge of the map in a few months. This new race wins every planetary war and makes a direct line to earth over the course of several weeks or months. There is a month long war on Mars. The humans lose. A $40 expansion pack is introduced and this time next year there is a "battle for the survival of the human race" on planet Earth in the center of the galaxy map.

In order to do the fighting on earth... you will have to buy the $40 expansion pack.
You'll be able to fight other places with the base game. However, the most crucial fighting ... for the future of human existence ... will require $40. LOL


Wow Jimmy. Assuming the worst of the devs with absolutely no merit at all. And why wouldn't they charge for an expansion pack? Destiny did it for years and successfully so.

On February 25 2024 04:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I say the background story takes more from Orwell's 1984 than the Starship Troopers video game.
No server issues on Friday.

Helldivers 1 ended up with 4 enemy races/factions. It'll be interesting to see the new races/factions introduced in Helldivers 2.


More races are coming for sure. Apparenty even Mechs for Helldivers are an option. Will see


On February 25 2024 21:52 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
This is definitely a $40 USD video game. It is not a full multi featured multi aspect game that demands a full $60 or $70 price tag. I am 25 hours in.

I'm rockin' scout armour and a sniper rifle. Nuttin' like shooting the #1 enemy in the back of the head from 100 meters away.


They could easily charge more for that game and be in the right. Looking at all the triple / quadruple A shit other big studios release (looking at you Ubisoft)

On February 26 2024 06:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
did a low rating on Steam auto-trigger a discount by the publisher of Helldivers2?

Why would the publisher offer a 17% discount so soon after a super successful release?

The code FEB17 gives a 17% discount on Green Man Gaming.
https://www.greenmangaming.com/


It's probably not a planned dev discount but rather a currency discount where the game in developing countries is cheaper and sites like this buy and resell steam keys cheaper that way
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
February 26 2024 17:40 GMT
#21
On February 26 2024 17:36 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2024 05:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'm on Steam. I'm in upstate New York,North east USA... playing with friends in Toronto, Washington DC, and Florida. Servers are working great for every one. No lag. Buttery smooth.

SPECULATION: Alien race enters the edge of the map in a few months. This new race wins every planetary war and makes a direct line to earth over the course of several weeks or months. There is a month long war on Mars. The humans lose. A $40 expansion pack is introduced and this time next year there is a "battle for the survival of the human race" on planet Earth in the center of the galaxy map.

In order to do the fighting on earth... you will have to buy the $40 expansion pack.
You'll be able to fight other places with the base game. However, the most crucial fighting ... for the future of human existence ... will require $40. LOL

Wow Jimmy. Assuming the worst of the devs with absolutely no merit at all. And why wouldn't they charge for an expansion pack? Destiny did it for years and successfully so.

Where do I say this is bad? I look forward to more content. I want to see New YOrk, Paris and Tokyo get "Blowed Up Real Good".

The game is a great deal for $40. Based upon Arrowhead's previous actions I project they'll give consumers $40 worth of content if they charge $40 for an expansion next year.

Arrowhead does not even have merchandise for the Helldivers franchise. So they are not trying to drain every dime for the pockets of its biggest fans. It'll be interesting to see how much longer places like Redbubble will continue to sell Helldivers Merch.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
February 27 2024 05:31 GMT
#22
I'm mortified and stupified! Shocked and chagrined!


This is preposterous! ! !
XP Farmers who half way complete Missions and Operations cause a "loss" for Super Earth. This is causing losses on planets like Ubanea and Malevon Creek!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b0solb/straight_from_the_devs_there_are_some_who_refuse/

Two days left to complete 8 "Defend Campaigns" and only 5 are complete. The selfish XP Farmers are thinking of their own petty atomic individual self interests rather than fighting for managed democracy, liberty and freedom!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 14:29:09
March 01 2024 14:27 GMT
#23
Level 14 now. Yesterday first successfull mission on 6 - Extreme.
Loadout(mostly): Redeemer, Breaker, Autocannon
Autocannon/ Guard Dog, Eagle Napalm, Orbital EMS, Orbital Strike/ 120 Barrage
Just playing what is fun, no min-maxing, no tierlist, no "you have to play THIS build 1000000000x DMG"

Bugs are a lot more fun than Automatons.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 01 2024 15:46 GMT
#24
On February 26 2024 06:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
did a low rating on Steam auto-trigger a discount by the publisher of Helldivers2?

Why would the publisher offer a 17% discount so soon after a super successful release?

The code FEB17 gives a 17% discount on Green Man Gaming.
https://www.greenmangaming.com/

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No worries!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-02 16:28:49
March 02 2024 16:26 GMT
#25
Some people are whining because Arrowhead deleted Steam posts requesting Arrowhead should never permit purchasable rainbow flags in the cosmetic items shop. LOL. Other people are complaining that Steam posts requesting rainbow flags in the cosmetic items shop are being deleted by Arrowhead.

Tellin' ya, you can't make this stuff up!

These people do not realize that in 2084 we're living in a perfect utopian society. I asked a Ministry of Truth Information Agent and he said we always lived in a perfect utopian society.

Too bad there is no PvP in this game. We could have each side in this debate go at in on Malevalon Creek as teh Automatons take over the entire damn planet!

We Just Lost Malevalon Creek
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8082 Posts
March 02 2024 16:44 GMT
#26
Anyone else thinking about how much Blizzard must be kicking themselves for never making a game like this set in the SC universe? It's a perfect fit (both Helldivers and SC take a ton of inspiration from Starship Troopers anyway). Besides SC Ghost (which was a single player game although they seemed to be adding on a halo-like multiplayer mode before cancelling IIRC) they apparently had a Battlefield-like Starcraft FPS game in development around 2018-2019 before getting shut down to go all-hands on deck for Diablo (around the time of mass talent exodus in the studio).

I love Helldivers 2 right now and of course I would still prefer an actual RTS starcraft to a shooter starcraft. But still, imagine a world where we got multiple types of SC games post SC2 instead of zero
Free Palestine
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-02 21:11:59
March 02 2024 20:52 GMT
#27
Yeah... StarCraft 2 ending was so fucking stupid that not even Blizzard can undo the cluster**** that it created. Let's not get into what Diablo has become since the disbanding of Diablo North that was actually working on Diablo 3 when everyone was fired, or let go. Everyone at Blizzard North have vowed to never return, ever. It's what happens when MBA's become heads and not artists and those that actually play the games etc.

+ Show Spoiler +


Would StarCraft have made a good live action service game on par with Helldivers, of course but not by this generation of Blizzard. No way in hell.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KingzTig
Profile Joined February 2024
155 Posts
March 03 2024 04:59 GMT
#28
On March 03 2024 05:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah... StarCraft 2 ending was so fucking stupid that not even Blizzard can undo the cluster**** that it created. Let's not get into what Diablo has become since the disbanding of Diablo North that was actually working on Diablo 3 when everyone was fired, or let go. Everyone at Blizzard North have vowed to never return, ever. It's what happens when MBA's become heads and not artists and those that actually play the games etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR08A9bWwxo


Would StarCraft have made a good live action service game on par with Helldivers, of course but not by this generation of Blizzard. No way in hell.

diablo 3 ironed out all the issues and became kinda an arcade type of fun game.
hearthstone was decent too.

then diablo 4, warcraft rumble, wc3 reforge and overwatch 2 pretty much wiped their reputation as a gaming company.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-03 17:09:25
March 03 2024 15:30 GMT
#29
thanks for the laughs guys. You people sound like old men yelling at 12 year olds whose basketball bounced on to your front lawn. Diablo 3 sold 12 million copies in its first year and went on to become one of the top 10 sold games of all time within 3 years with over 30 million copies sold. Diablo3 was incredibly awesome for the Nintendo Switch.

Diablo 3 was a great game. Now, I do not like the genre. I don't like Diablo1,2,3, or 4. However, long term engagement is objective proof of quality. Blizzard the developer, and Activision the publisher did a great job.

Check this out! Someone raised more than $2.3 million USD on a Kickstarter campaign so they could 3D Print a small Helldivers statue! As we know 3D printing is really expensive... as is ocean front property in Huntington Beach California.
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btw, Helldivers employee "Joel" was seen lurking about a grassy knoll on November 22, 1963. Coincidence? I think not!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 04 2024 22:59 GMT
#30
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
March 04 2024 23:27 GMT
#31
I gather this "push//pull" planetary mechanic gets people to say ... "ok, just 1 more run then i will go to sleep".

Dailies are back!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-05 09:05:25
March 05 2024 09:03 GMT
#32
On March 05 2024 08:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I gather this "push//pull" planetary mechanic gets people to say ... "ok, just 1 more run then i will go to sleep".

Dailies are back!


If you think Automatons need sleep, think again!

On other news, there is a big push going on to nerf Chargers a bit which I kinda agree on but it's also kinda cool to have them this difficult.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b4t6se/hot_take_charger_armour_is_way_too_strong_for/
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 05 2024 16:17 GMT
#33
Awesome.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
March 06 2024 01:45 GMT
#34
Seems like once a night, I log into PS5 and decide to spread American values and democracy. Only to either lag out or get kicked by some neck beard. This is how democracy dies people. This is how.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-06 04:27:05
March 06 2024 04:06 GMT
#35
On March 06 2024 10:45 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Seems like once a night, I log into PS5 and decide to spread American values and democracy. Only to either lag out or get kicked by some neck beard. This is how democracy dies people. This is how.

Spread American values by playing Helldivers2 on Steam... a great American service owned by a great American billionaire! Steam never has lag and no one gets kicked unless they are supposed to get kicked. Also, do not drink Bud Light or eat Doritos while playing Helldivers2. These socialist products are subversive tools that the Godless Communists use to wreck the health of freedom loving Americans.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-06 15:48:14
March 06 2024 15:47 GMT
#36
new patch:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-06 18:30:48
March 06 2024 16:02 GMT
#37
i hope they fix the armour bug and make the good armour work the way it is intended.

i noticed this line in the patch notes... i hope it works.
Fixed armor rating values not reducing damage as intended.


Time to learn a new primary weapon
Breaker: Decreased magazine capacity from 16 to 13, increased recoil from 30 to 55.


It will be more difficult to take out heavy armoured enemies with the Railgun.

I've been leaning on the Breaker and the Railfun a lot.

Here is an opinion that is congruent with mine:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b80gs6/unpopular_opinion_i_agree_with_the_nerfs/

I'm going to be a worse player, unfortunately, I probably deserve to be.

People leaning on the Breaker and Railgun so much need to look at themselves in the mirror and admit to themselves that they are not good FPS players.... we need a confession booth or something
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 06 2024 23:35 GMT
#38
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2024 02:43 GMT
#39
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-07 08:50:23
March 07 2024 08:27 GMT
#40
On March 07 2024 01:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i hope they fix the armour bug and make the good armour work the way it is intended.

i noticed this line in the patch notes... i hope it works.
Show nested quote +
Fixed armor rating values not reducing damage as intended.


Time to learn a new primary weapon
Show nested quote +
Breaker: Decreased magazine capacity from 16 to 13, increased recoil from 30 to 55.


It will be more difficult to take out heavy armoured enemies with the Railgun.

I've been leaning on the Breaker and the Railfun a lot.

Here is an opinion that is congruent with mine:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b80gs6/unpopular_opinion_i_agree_with_the_nerfs/

I'm going to be a worse player, unfortunately, I probably deserve to be.

People leaning on the Breaker and Railgun so much need to look at themselves in the mirror and admit to themselves that they are not good FPS players.... we need a confession booth or something


Everyone was using the same BiS loadout (Breaker, Railgun, Personal shield). That's why they nerfed it.

Lol the comment from the designer at using Barrages. The only thing Barrages killed effectively was yourself and your team while all the bugs were left laughing their asses off
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2262 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-07 08:52:25
March 07 2024 08:52 GMT
#41
Game looks incredibly generic tbh. I didn't play that thou, so maybe it's not that overhyped as was Gears of War 20 years ago.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
March 07 2024 08:58 GMT
#42
On March 07 2024 17:52 hitthat wrote:
Game looks incredibly generic tbh. I didn't play that thou, so maybe it's not that overhyped as was Gears of War 20 years ago.


I have never played a game like this before. Not sure what parts of the game do feel generic to you, but I can assure you: It's not
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2024 14:18 GMT
#43
Aaaaah!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
March 08 2024 09:14 GMT
#44
On March 07 2024 23:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaah!

https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1765737775570026861


God damn Joel!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-08 17:25:58
March 08 2024 16:02 GMT
#45
Victory!



edit: The Mech is now unlocked at level 25, and costs 20k.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
March 09 2024 01:39 GMT
#46
You also get a free one for one use in game.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
March 10 2024 01:54 GMT
#47
i didn't know you had to get in the Mech to make it work... i thought an AI was powering it. LOL.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-12 00:02:54
March 11 2024 23:59 GMT
#48
New Helldivers2 War Bond releases in 3 days!
https://blog.playstation.com/2024/03/07/helldivers-2-new-warbond-launches-march-14-first-look-at-new-weapons-armor-and-more/

Support the War Effort everyone! Purchase a War Bond! It is $10 USD or 1000 Super Credits. There is really no need to give Arrowhead real money. I'm old, slow, half blind, and stupid and I've still managed to accumulate over 1000 Super Credits.

A big corporate owned dev studio would never take on a game like this because the humour is too confusing; the corporate sensitivity readers would eliminate all the humour and fun. Too many double entendres for them!

All these giant corps try to turn every franchise into a "game for everyone"...
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 12 2024 14:18 GMT
#49
New patch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bctpnz/patch_1000102/

But now there appears to be an issue where players might not be able to enter the dropship because the door enters the world, so one has to crawl or crouch to get in. Hopefully an emergency hotfix is being worked on.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
March 13 2024 02:02 GMT
#50
I joined a squad. We're activating silos. They all left one by one. All 4 couldn't get it. I got one by myself once I was alone.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-13 03:52:26
March 13 2024 03:52 GMT
#51
Just completed the TCS missions solo after everyone, again, decided to leave. Helldive difficulty. Level 24.
KingzTig
Profile Joined February 2024
155 Posts
March 13 2024 07:17 GMT
#52
This game is addictive. Can't rmb when's the last time I am grinding a game this much.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-13 10:37:51
March 13 2024 10:37 GMT
#53
On March 12 2024 08:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
New Helldivers2 War Bond releases in 3 days!
https://blog.playstation.com/2024/03/07/helldivers-2-new-warbond-launches-march-14-first-look-at-new-weapons-armor-and-more/

Support the War Effort everyone! Purchase a War Bond! It is $10 USD or 1000 Super Credits. There is really no need to give Arrowhead real money. I'm old, slow, half blind, and stupid and I've still managed to accumulate over 1000 Super Credits.

A big corporate owned dev studio would never take on a game like this because the humour is too confusing; the corporate sensitivity readers would eliminate all the humour and fun. Too many double entendres for them!

All these giant corps try to turn every franchise into a "game for everyone"...


So far Arrwohead are awesome! They make me want to give them money even though I have enough SC
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 18 2024 17:43 GMT
#54
Think were about to see the third enemy faction introduced....

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
March 19 2024 13:45 GMT
#55
So how do you the help civilians escape on helldive? That is still just ridiculous. The best I could do so far was 35/ 60.
They get blocked all the time and with 5 Titans and 4 Chargers on the map I'm kinda busy surviving myself
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 20 2024 12:41 GMT
#56
New patch.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bja23a/patch_1000103/
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
March 20 2024 14:33 GMT
#57
Drowning in deep water with a Vitality Booster equipped puts Helldiver in a broken state.


That had me rage quitting twice already. Not only are you stuck there, all your gear and samples are gone too. Deep water is just really really really shitty implemented
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-27 02:25:32
March 27 2024 02:17 GMT
#58
Still no patch to address Automatons, like shooting down their dropships fails to destroy any reasonable amount of Automatons, rocket troopers aiming is asinine, Tanks surviving Rail cannon strikes, and 500kg bombs, Berserkers. This is going to be fun. Not really.

[image loading]
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-27 13:11:59
March 27 2024 13:11 GMT
#59
On March 27 2024 11:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Still no patch to address Automatons, like shooting down their dropships fails to destroy any reasonable amount of Automatons, rocket troopers aiming is asinine, Tanks surviving Rail cannon strikes, and 500kg bombs, Berserkers. This is going to be fun. Not really.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Yeah lol just yesterday I was playing on difficulty 7 or 8 and we were at the last objective when Joel decided "You will not finish this mission" and dropped 8 dropships directly on top of us bringing 2 tanks, 4 hulks and a shitload of devestators.
I was shooting a tank in the weak spot with an EAT and it just didn't care. What the hell is this.
After 10 minutes of ring around the rosie we at least finished but with no lives left and without extraction
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 28 2024 15:37 GMT
#60
New weapons!



Also has anyone played the first Helldivers game, is the third race some type of electrical/arc type of enemy? Cause that is all the armor defends against in the Cutting Edge Warbond's page...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 29 2024 03:23 GMT
#61
Going to try this later this week. But there still needs to be an Automatons patch with some nerfs, if not some weapons buffs and stratagem cooldown buffs as well.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-29 13:44:46
March 29 2024 13:42 GMT
#62
i don't mind the current state of balance in the game. i'm having fun. my group of Steam friends is having fun. To better frame my view I should acknowledge that i play about 5 hours a week.
I suspect Arrowhead bases a lot of their decisions on the 5 hours per week or less player.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 29 2024 14:30 GMT
#63
:O

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 29 2024 14:58 GMT
#64
On March 29 2024 00:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
New weapons!

https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1773330354343997469

Also has anyone played the first Helldivers game, is the third race some type of electrical/arc type of enemy? Cause that is all the armor defends against in the Cutting Edge Warbond's page...

third race is a protoss like race with shields and mind control abilities
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-02 02:43:05
April 02 2024 02:35 GMT
#65
Anyone else seeing these big ass, albeit cloaked, Automaton ships in the sky...?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 02 2024 08:53 GMT
#66
On March 29 2024 22:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i don't mind the current state of balance in the game. i'm having fun. my group of Steam friends is having fun. To better frame my view I should acknowledge that i play about 5 hours a week.
I suspect Arrowhead bases a lot of their decisions on the 5 hours per week or less player.


I'm in this group as well and I really like the pace they are going right now for new stuff and orders.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 02 2024 11:16 GMT
#67
New Patch

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4204746659280937639?l=german
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-02 18:26:57
April 02 2024 18:24 GMT
#68
What in the actual fu-

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 03 2024 09:56 GMT
#69
Revenge of the Automatons!
With freaking AT-ATs and Gunships

We really need a Lightsaber stratagem now
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-04 13:38:31
April 04 2024 13:38 GMT
#70
New order is up!

[image loading]

Only one strategy for this work, so that the GM's cannot possibly prevent it from succeeding. Let's finish this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDWcg8dh930
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 04 2024 16:05 GMT
#71
New Warbond announced:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 05 2024 08:08 GMT
#72
New Warbond looks fun :D
Anyone know if you haven't logged in for a Major Order if you still get rewards the next time you log in?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 05 2024 13:02 GMT
#73
There is got to be a catch with the grenade pistol cause everyone is going to be using it. Like a massive time to reload between shots.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-05 19:01:53
April 05 2024 18:53 GMT
#74
This game continues to be silly, stupid, idiotic, great fun!
At this point... I've gotten my money's worth.

Its on a proprietary server... so i look at it like i just handed Sony $60X4 = 240 Quarters and I'm playing on an Arcade Cabinet at the local BIlliard/Snooker Hall. One day, the big company will come along and remove the arcade cabinet.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 07 2024 01:47 GMT
#75
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 07 2024 20:13 GMT
#76
Well done Comrades! Surely nothing bad will follow.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2262 Posts
April 08 2024 05:00 GMT
#77
I don't get the fuzz about this game. It looks like insignificant shoter that has nothing new on the table except the difficulty and you serving in military of totalitarian regime with hilarious propaganda.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-08 07:45:25
April 08 2024 07:43 GMT
#78
On April 08 2024 14:00 hitthat wrote:
I don't get the fuzz about this game. It looks like insignificant shoter that has nothing new on the table except the difficulty and you serving in military of totalitarian regime with hilarious propaganda.


It's incredible cinematic and satisfying. Also great with friends. Best Coop shooter out there right now

On April 06 2024 03:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
This game continues to be silly, stupid, idiotic, great fun!
At this point... I've gotten my money's worth.


I bought Super Credits that I don't need just to support the shit out of this game. Money well spent
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 09 2024 01:12 GMT
#79
Vehicles incoming?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 09 2024 13:33 GMT
#80
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 11 2024 08:19 GMT
#81
That new defense mission is really fun. Though I don't think the Major Order can be done (probably on purpose) and the "help civilians escape" missions still suck balls
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-11 12:58:55
April 11 2024 12:48 GMT
#82
The evacuating civilians missions would not be so bad if wasn't for the effing fire tornadoes.

edit: new ship upgrades just dropped, as expected they are expensive as hell.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
April 12 2024 12:17 GMT
#83
New order just came out
[image loading]
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-12 12:46:53
April 12 2024 12:45 GMT
#84
Before it is too late. THIS is NOT true.

BR-14 Adjudicator Rifle
Deliver righteous judgement to your enemies with accuracy. This armour-penetrating assault rifle is best used against smaller groups.


It is not an AR, it is a marksman rifle there is no AR is this Warbond. The Grenade pistol is the last tier of the Warbond so you, technically, did not waste saving all your medals in order to unlock the stuff.

But still.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-15 09:45:48
April 15 2024 07:22 GMT
#85
The Eruptor (Edited) is fun though. Paired with a Stalwart or Flamethrower bugs are EZ.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-19 02:10:30
April 19 2024 01:17 GMT
#86
So the new major order was to kill 2 BILLION bugs... it was completed in less than 12 hours lol
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
April 19 2024 07:31 GMT
#87
On April 19 2024 10:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the new major order was to kill 2 BILLION bugs... it was completed in less than 12 hours lol


When doing bug missions I think our teams average kill counter is somewhere in the 1000. If you play with killing bugs in mind you could probably easily escalate that to a 2000.

2.000.000.000/ 2.000 = 1.000.000 missions in 12 hours -> 83.333 missions / hour

Thats not even a lot. Though some mission like blitz and easier difficulties have probably a lot lower kill count
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8967 Posts
April 19 2024 13:46 GMT
#88
Depends on the mission. I know too many players who think they have to kill/engage every bug they see. As if the mission is secondary to killing bugs. That annoys the shit out of me lol.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 28 2024 20:15 GMT
#89
New Stratagem available.

[image loading]
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-29 12:09:56
April 29 2024 11:28 GMT
#90
On April 29 2024 05:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
New Stratagem available.

[image loading]

I still don't understand how this RL works: sometimes I kill myself by shooting a target at literally more than 100 meters of distance. I don't know if it's bugged or if I need a PhD to use it

Edit: seems like it's officially bugged

Anyway, new patch!

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4169846298204053636
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 29 2024 16:04 GMT
#91
Wow, the nerfs in this patch.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 01 2024 01:39 GMT
#92
Love the game and democracy! :D
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-01 20:45:41
May 01 2024 20:44 GMT
#93
Good news.



Safe bet that Sony will acquire them as soon as they can. Hopefully even put external teams into helping the devs of Arrowhead.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
May 02 2024 11:15 GMT
#94
On May 02 2024 05:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Good news.

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1785677833320251760

Safe bet that Sony will acquire them as soon as they can. Hopefully even put external teams into helping the devs of Arrowhead.


I would rather have them expand to X-Box and stay somewhat independant from Sony
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-02 13:33:40
May 02 2024 13:29 GMT
#95
New Warbond next week. Here's hoping there is an actual Assault Rifle this time around. And not a typo...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2024 13:44 GMT
#96
Heads up PC players.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
May 03 2024 14:38 GMT
#97
"they must link their accounts before June 4"
I have a baseball tourney that weekend. Do I lose the game if I do not log in before June 4? if i lose my account i won't try to get it back.

This is scummy behaviour by Sony. If the details of this press release are an error then what other errors will Sony make?
How long before Sony accidentally deletes my game(s)?
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64473640/

Its looking like offline games on community servers are the way to go. So its EA NHL '94, C&C games, Borderlands, Fire Pro Wrestling and emulation games for me. That means it is good bye to SC2, WWE 2K2X, and Helldivers2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2024 14:57 GMT
#98
No it isn't. It takes a few mins to create a PlayStation account you don't even a PS to have one. The agreement has also been in writing on Steam but the server issues pushed it back. Xbox, EA etc. all have the same agreements when it comes to their games.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-03 15:20:39
May 03 2024 15:20 GMT
#99
ya, mandating i have to do it between May 30 and June 4 is scummy. That small window of time was not in the agreement.
Sony is pretty scummy to start off with... this just adds to it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2024 15:39 GMT
#100
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-03 16:44:59
May 03 2024 15:55 GMT
#101
On May 04 2024 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account

Sony is blocked on the network i'm on.
Furthermore, I won't be online in the last week of May and first week of June.
Current Steam players will receive mandatory login prompts starting on May 30, and they must link their Steam account to their PSN account before June 4.

its not that big of a deal. if i lose my account... meh. its just a video game. it was fun though.
On May 03 2024 23:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: The agreement has also been in writing on Steam but the server issues pushed it back. Xbox, EA etc. all have the same agreements when it comes to their games.

I do not have to have a PSN account to play the Sony published game "Fire Pro Wrestling World" on Steam. And as we all know.. that is an awesome multiplayer game.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
May 04 2024 07:20 GMT
#102
On May 04 2024 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account


No. Refund request it is.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 04 2024 15:01 GMT
#103
Update from Arrowhead.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-04 16:05:25
May 04 2024 16:03 GMT
#104
So Sony and Arrowhead took money from people in countries without PSN. They knew those people could not continue playing HD2 due to the upcoming change of the network conditions. Yet, they had nothing in place for them when tehy dropped the hammer.

Ironically, Sony claims they are protecting humanity by monitoring their PS Network.

If I were stuck in a retro arcade with a bunch of really cool old school arcade games with someone else....I'd rather be stuck in the arcade with a Bear than a SOny Exec.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
May 04 2024 17:32 GMT
#105
On May 04 2024 16:20 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2024 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account


No. Refund request it is.


Mine got denied because the purchase was over 14 days ago...
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-05 00:33:02
May 04 2024 22:07 GMT
#106
If you live in the Ukraine you must buy a PS4 or PS5 in order to register for a PSN account. So although the Ukraine is technically a country that has PSN access you have to buy the Sony hardware to play Helldivers2 on Steam. LOLOL

blah blah blah blah...
"It's because the decision is not ours. Nothing to with bad customer support. We don't know," said Thomas "Twinbeard" Petersson, one of Arrowhead's community managers, in reply to someone in the official Helldivers Discord server criticizing the developer's lack of a clear answer for region-locking concerns. "You can always ask Sony, but until the[y] offer us a more detailed response, we'll reply to the best of our ability with the limited info we have. Should there have been a FAQ? Yes." The original announcement post was also written entirely by the publisher.

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/third-person-shooter/helldivers-2-devs-remind-players-its-sonys-decision-not-ours-amid-psn-backlash-we-always-knew-this-day-would-get-here-and-its-going-about-how-i-expected/

Get ready for some more "We miscommunicated on this one ... sry guys".

They're fucking with people's money. Standard scummy anti-consumer practices the video game industry has been doing since 1979.
On May 05 2024 02:32 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2024 16:20 Creager wrote:
On May 04 2024 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account


No. Refund request it is.


Mine got denied because the purchase was over 14 days ago...

perhaps try something like this...
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It prolly also helps if you've never refunded a game in the past. I've refunded 1 game and then I repurchased the game once the issue was resolved. So my refund history won't hinder my attempt if I do so.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-05 08:14:19
May 05 2024 08:03 GMT
#107
On May 05 2024 02:32 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2024 16:20 Creager wrote:
On May 04 2024 00:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Do it now....

https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/entrance?entry=create_account


No. Refund request it is.


Mine got denied because the purchase was over 14 days ago...


Also have gotten denied 4 times since the news transpired on Friday due to 90h playtime, but gotta keep trying, as apparently for some people that also wouldn't normally qualify it was refunded.

To some extent I feel bad because the game itself is awesome and I had so much fun with it, but that alone doesn't suffice in today's market and I'm just fed up with being treated like a moron as customer, so I also like seeing some pushback from players to dumb-af exec decisions like this which could've been avoided SO. GOD DAMN. EASILY. by either just sitting back and being hands-off or offering some incentive for people to play along (hand out some (cosmetic) reward for creating/linking PSN).

Only thing Sony ensured is that I will try to avoid buying any of their product like the plague from now on.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
May 05 2024 14:59 GMT
#108
This is the quote of the thread right here. I called this shit a month ago.
On April 06 2024 03:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
This game continues to be silly, stupid, idiotic, great fun!
At this point... I've gotten my money's worth.

Its on a proprietary server... so i look at it like i just handed Sony $60X4 = 240 Quarters and I'm playing on an Arcade Cabinet at the local BIlliard/Snooker Hall. One day, the big company will come along and remove the arcade cabinet.


The Arcade Cabinet is being removed. I'll move on to other games.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
May 05 2024 16:51 GMT
#109
I find it ironic how Sony tried to argue at the FTC that Microsoft buying Acti-Blizz would somehow threaten their entire existence because they would lose access to Call of Duty after 5? or 10? years because they don't have their own successful multiplayer shooter, THEN they pull this shit.
You literally had a goose laying golden eggs. You had a successful multiplayer game and then you decided to smother it with a pillow in its sleep for no goddamn good reason. You pissed away any good will you had on PC.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-05 19:48:18
May 05 2024 19:45 GMT
#110
Everybody sucks here unfortunately, first and foremost I hope that there will be an acceptable solution for people from countries without direct PSN access, as those guys legitimately got screwed big time by this, for the rest of us this might end up with us paying for another lesson in 'how to get f***ed', but on a positive note at least a portion of people are slowly starting to grow weary of this 3rd party account and game launcher idiocy and push back a little.

Best outcome of this would be Steam just disallowing this 3rd party account practice altogether, although this is quite unrealistic, of course.

Still regrettable that it had to be this game, but Sony just lost this game of hot potato and it's really important that companies get a little reality check from time to time, even if it's short lived to at least tone down the probing for weaknesses in their attempts to erode consumer rights and gain more control for some time.

They will try again, they always do.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-05 22:03:26
May 05 2024 22:01 GMT
#111
Sony changed their web site and the EULA after the fact. LOL. So amongst teh FAQ, EULA/ToS, Sony Web site, and Steam page only a small note on the Steam page indicated a 3rd party sign up in mandatory. All other sources stated a 3rd party sign up is not required.

Sony has had 6 consumer data breaches in a little over 10 years. Sony states they are trying to "protect us".

Regarding Arrowhead and their CMs and their CMs idiotic messaging recently and years ago...

Do not fall for this "we are creative visionaries who make fun games .... Sony calls the shots..we're the good guys". Its a bunch of BS. Arrowhead Games took Sony's money when they handed over the Helldivers IP. Arrowhead Games CASHED OUT. When they cashed out they surrendered their creative autonomy for money. Arrowhead Games by definition is all about the money.

Spitz trying to play the "good cop" doesn't fly. His first instinct is to take dumb uninformed cheap shots at the player base. He explained it away with some emo BS. If he can not handle the pressure of bad situations that all CMs absorb then he needs to find another line of work. CMs are target dummies the corpos throw in front of the player base to deflect incoming fire from angry players. Always have been... always will be.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
May 06 2024 00:58 GMT
#112
Arrowhead are also the ones who chose to put a rootkit with security issues into a single player / co-op game.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
May 06 2024 05:21 GMT
#113
Sony has backed off of adding the PSN account linking requirement on May 6. They are weighing their options.


I wonder if the decision to remove the buy option in countries without PSN access will be reversed?
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 09:24:55
May 06 2024 09:23 GMT
#114
Ghost of Tsushima will release in a week on steam and had the same requirement (PSN acc) They scratched that as well apparently. Maybe Sony learned something after all.

Edit: Curious to see if the PC playerbase learned something, too and doesn't touch it with a 10ft pole
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Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 11:32:27
May 06 2024 11:19 GMT
#115
On May 06 2024 18:23 Harris1st wrote:
Edit: Curious to see if the PC playerbase learned something, too and doesn't touch it with a 10ft pole


Unlikely
The player count barely dipped even with the massive number of negative reviews and social media outcry
Now that Sony turned back on that, the whole thing will be forgotten in days for Helldivers 2, let alone any other game, especially a well-known/acclaimed one

And the game itself is still amazing, with more incoming content, so more people will be brought it

As a funny outro to this whole drama, though, Arrowhead's CEO tweeted about turning the negative reviews graph into an in-game cosmetic
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
May 06 2024 13:06 GMT
#116
The people who have learned something won't be vocal about it. Their actions will speak louder than their words.

The MODs got into their feels during this thing. LOL. Its just a silly, stupid, for idiotic-fun video game and these weirdos somehow think it and they are important.



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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 14:57:19
May 06 2024 14:56 GMT
#117
On May 06 2024 18:23 Harris1st wrote:
Ghost of Tsushima will release in a week on steam and had the same requirement (PSN acc) They scratched that as well apparently. Maybe Sony learned something after all.

Edit: Curious to see if the PC playerbase learned something, too and doesn't touch it with a 10ft pole


I've checked the store page on Steam just now and like with Helldivers 2 they apparently did not update anything, yet or it's just in the process of being propagated, do you have any other source of information for this? Last thing I've heard was that they've planned on having the requirement solely for the multiplayer portion of the game, while leaving the singleplayer optional.

Anyway, as insignificant this pushback might be in the grand scheme of things when it comes to how corporations are literally flipping the finger to customers, this at least has an immediate positive effect on people's ability to play and enjoy the game they purchased without any additional strings attached (at least for now, that is).


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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-07 09:55:07
May 07 2024 09:54 GMT
#118
Here is the post from Sucker Punch Production

https://x.com/SuckerPunchProd/status/1786462939748384943

Just so you are aware, A PSN account is required for Legends online multiplayer mode and to use PlayStation overlay. It is not required to play the singleplayer game.

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-12 21:48:45
May 11 2024 01:28 GMT
#119
On May 07 2024 18:54 Harris1st wrote:
Here is the post from Sucker Punch Production

https://x.com/SuckerPunchProd/status/1786462939748384943

Show nested quote +
Just so you are aware, A PSN account is required for Legends online multiplayer mode and to use PlayStation overlay. It is not required to play the singleplayer game.



Helldivers 2 just banned some more countries from buying the game, they're up to 170 now. Ghosts has followed.

The only reason that i can really imagine for that is Sony planning on enforcing PSN again later, because that blacklist was added due to PSN not being legal in those specific countries.

edit: Confirmed that Sony added and updated it https://www.eurogamer.net/helldivers-2-was-delisted-by-sony-not-steam-valve-rep-says
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
May 13 2024 11:25 GMT
#120
Sony gotta lose shittons of money becaus of this. I love it
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 13 2024 15:42 GMT
#121
On May 06 2024 01:51 Latham wrote:
I find it ironic how Sony tried to argue at the FTC that Microsoft buying Acti-Blizz would somehow threaten their entire existence because they would lose access to Call of Duty after 5? or 10? years because they don't have their own successful multiplayer shooter, THEN they pull this shit.
You literally had a goose laying golden eggs. You had a successful multiplayer game and then you decided to smother it with a pillow in its sleep for no goddamn good reason. You pissed away any good will you had on PC.


20 years ago people were talking about the death of PC. Now it seems consoles are the ones that are shrinking in importance (Nintendo's wide moat niche notwithstanding). Sony is just flailing. They see the need to move in to the PC market but they have no idea what they are doing. It reminds how of how many Japanese companies started embracing the PC market but have all sorts of problems with their ports.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
May 14 2024 07:30 GMT
#122
New warbond is shit and game got kinda boring TBH. Will be doing a longer vacation on super earth before maybe coming back to dive
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-14 12:55:16
May 14 2024 12:17 GMT
#123
Valve stated Sony required the ending of sales in countries without PSN. Today, people in those countries still can not buy the game. LOL. Did Sony get Justin Trudeau to write that PR statement. . What a bunch of scum buckets Sony is.

So if I live in the Philippines or Egypt or Iran and I am loving the game I can't get my friends to play with me? That is silly nonsense.

My #1 employee and gaming playing partner other than my wife lives in Iran ~6 months a year. So now, I can't play with him? LOL.

I suspect Sony will no longer allow countries outside the PSN areas to buy Helldivers2. I do not think Sony is reversing this decision. SONY's SILENCE SAYS IT ALL.

Any how, I'm out. I had a blast for ~130 hours. As I've stated previously, when you buy a game on a proprietary server it is best to treat it like it is a Coin-Operated Arcade Game sitting inside your local Sports Bar//Billiard Hall. One day it'll get removed by the giant corp or the facility owner.

There is a community server software you can use to play Helldivers 1 so that you do not need Steam. So for Helldivers fans outside of the PSN countries they can always play Helldivers1. Of course, you'd be breaking their "Terms of Service". LOL.

One of the reasons I'm a big proponent of piracy is due to the actions of Sony in this matter. Other publishers do this same kind of BS as well and have been doing so for 50 years. Mattel and Atari screwed over its customers super hard in the 1970s and the anti consumer behaviour has been going on non stop since then. The video game industry is super scummy.

SPECULATION
There must be a power struggle going on between Arrowhead and Sony because Arrowhead must get some kind of money reward for increased sales #s. Arrowhead wants you to be able to play the game even if you are on the North Pole or living in Antarctica because it increases sales #s. Sony wants control. Sony wants control of its customers and the game studios that make the games. Sony wants the same kind of control Nintendo demands. Sony does not want huge sales #s outside of the PSN connected countries because then other Game Studios will demand this same luxury.
On May 14 2024 16:30 Harris1st wrote:
New warbond is shit and game got kinda boring TBH. Will be doing a longer vacation on super earth before maybe coming back to dive

Steam's chart #s indicate your opinion is common among the player base. 40,000 playing now. :D
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xavierwood
Profile Joined August 2024
1 Post
August 03 2024 17:34 GMT
#124
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cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada504 Posts
September 17 2024 13:17 GMT
#125
Is Helldivers still holding up? Was wondering if anyone has played both Helldivers and the new WH40K Space Marine 2 and if one is worth getting over the other.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-17 15:08:00
September 17 2024 14:00 GMT
#126
Just got a big patch and a big surge of players got added. Helldivers2 is a $40 game and it has the breadth and scope of what you'd expect from a $40 game. The "Warbonds" can easily be earned with in game currency you can find laying around on the ground during Mission Activities. Check post #1 here. No need to buy the $60 version.

HD2 was downvoted on Steam due to a bunch of business decisions and unethical moves by Sony. They shut out a bunch of people in a bunch of countries where the game was previously available making it impossible for current players to play with friends in their country.

Lately HD2 has been downvoted on Steam because original buyers are rather bored. Thing is , it is a $40 game. You are not getting new content like you would for 2005 WoW and paying $15/month. Many people don't take that into account and they just downvote.

My favourite type of Steam review is the guy who downvotes the game after 100 hours of play. However, he now has 1500 hours of play time.

The style of 3rd person shooter of Helldivers2 feels a lot like an FPS. The style of 3rd Person Shooter for WH40K:Space Marine 2 feels very different from an FPS. There are a lot of Melee Combos , executions, Parry and Dodge mechanics in Space Marine2 NOT normally present in an FPS. I'd say WH40K:SM2 "feels" much more like Gears of War. No cover system like Gears of War though.

I got my $40 worth.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6860 Posts
September 18 2024 07:44 GMT
#127
On September 17 2024 22:17 cha0 wrote:
Is Helldivers still holding up? Was wondering if anyone has played both Helldivers and the new WH40K Space Marine 2 and if one is worth getting over the other.


IMO Helldivers 2 is a bit more sandboxy stupid coop fun while Space Marine 2 is more story driven. And I think SM2 is capped at 3 players total? HD2 has 4 player
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-18 17:47:48
September 18 2024 17:43 GMT
#128
I refunded Space Marine 2. I get why some people think the 3rd Person combo/timing melee combat is awesome. It is just not for me.

Here is my rankings of best combat in these kinds of games..

#1) Halo Infinite FPS combat
#2) Borderlands3 FPS with subtle and meaningful verticality
#3) HD2 3rd person FPS style combat
#4) Halo 1,2,3 FPS combat. Not enough verticality.
#5) Destiny 2 FPS ... Too much verticality.

I do not like Gears of War and Space Marine 2 style of 3rd person combat.

This list is subjective. There are tonnes of people who love GoW and WH40K:SM2 combat.

Best thing you can do is play for a few hours. Steam refunds games for me when I have gone over their play limit. I request the money be put in my Steam wallet; I do not request the money back. Also , I gifted $2000 in games last year to others. Maybe that is also a factor.

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