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On June 21 2011 03:58 Haemonculus wrote:
How do I get soap?
Way too many dorfs dying to infection t.t;
1. Make Ash at a Wood Furnace (Wood Burning)
2. Make Lye at an ashery (lye Making)
3. Render fat at a kitchen (from butchered animals) (Cooking)
4. Make Soap at a soap workshop with Potash + Tallow (Soap Making)
Or...
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3. Make rock nut paste at a Quern/Millstone
4. Make a Jug that can hold liquid (glass, fired clay, glazed stone, or metal)
5. Make Rock Nut Oil at a screw press
6. Make Soap at a soap workshop with Potash + Oil
Then make a stockpile in your hospital for soap.
I'd recommend forbidding all fat and tallow from being used for cooking in your forts. Food is plentiful enough so it's best to save all of your tallow for soap.
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Trying to get into DF, but after i've done some reading and such, i tried installing a graphic pack i think ( Lazy Newb Pack ) But my question is, is there a different between using Lazy Newb Pack and just playing the regular in ASCII? If so, which should i start out with/will it have any effect?
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So at around 79 level or so, I've found a layer composed almost entirely of semi-molten rock and/or warm stone. But no matter how many detours I take or exploring tunnels I dig, I can't find any real magma!
Any way to get through this undiggable layer? I want to kick my metal industry into high gear without burning down the entire forest!
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you dont want to go through that layer!!!!!
The only way through will likely be an adamantium column leading straight to the clowns!
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On June 21 2011 04:08 Logo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 03:58 Haemonculus wrote:
How do I get soap?
Way too many dorfs dying to infection t.t; 1. Make Ash at a Wood Furnace (Wood Burning) 2. Make Potash at an ashery (Potash Making) 3. Render fat at a kitchen (from butchered animals) (Cooking) 4. Make Soap at a soap workshop with Potash + Tallow (Soap Making) Then make a stockpile in your hospital for soap. I'd recommend forbidding all fat and tallow from being used for cooking in your forts. Food is plentiful enough so it's best to save all of your tallow for soap.
Are you sure it's Potash and not Lye?
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On June 21 2011 10:52 Haemonculus wrote:
So at around 79 level or so, I've found a layer composed almost entirely of semi-molten rock and/or warm stone. But no matter how many detours I take or exploring tunnels I dig, I can't find any real magma!
Any way to get through this undiggable layer? I want to kick my metal industry into high gear without burning down the entire forest!
If you see a warm stone, go up a level and dig to the same spot. If you hit another warm stone, go up a level and repeat. If you don't hit warm stone 1 z level up, dig around it (All 9 squares around it).
S = magma, X = warm stone, R = regular rock. This diagram is looking up z levels
RRRRRRRRR
RRRRXXXRR
XXXXXXSXXX
SSSSSSSSX
If you hit that bottom right X, you dig up a level and go until you hit the warm stone. Repeat until you get to that top level. Because you see that it has no awrm stone, you know that there is no lava the layer below so you can mine that out. Chanel one of the spaces where it had been warm and you'll get a cavern-esque update giving you the location of all local magma.
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On June 22 2011 00:10 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 04:08 Logo wrote:On June 21 2011 03:58 Haemonculus wrote:
How do I get soap?
Way too many dorfs dying to infection t.t; 1. Make Ash at a Wood Furnace (Wood Burning) 2. Make Potash at an ashery (Potash Making) 3. Render fat at a kitchen (from butchered animals) (Cooking) 4. Make Soap at a soap workshop with Potash + Tallow (Soap Making) Then make a stockpile in your hospital for soap. I'd recommend forbidding all fat and tallow from being used for cooking in your forts. Food is plentiful enough so it's best to save all of your tallow for soap. Are you sure it's Potash and not Lye?
No. You're right it's lye, and will edit my post accordingly (sorry to anyone who made Potash)
On June 21 2011 08:46 Thehummel wrote:
Trying to get into DF, but after i've done some reading and such, i tried installing a graphic pack i think ( Lazy Newb Pack ) But my question is, is there a different between using Lazy Newb Pack and just playing the regular in ASCII? If so, which should i start out with/will it have any effect?
Graphic pack is probably easier.
Actually personally I find the best is an alternate ascii setup. The default ascii scheme looks like... well utter ass... with awful colors, more symbols than needed, and a ton of other clutter. I don't know if anyone currently offers it, but the best scheme imo is an alternate font with softer looking letters, the clear ground setting, and some changes to the raw to unify stone.
Anyways for your sake just use one of the graphic sets from the LNP.
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On June 21 2011 08:46 Thehummel wrote:
Trying to get into DF, but after i've done some reading and such, i tried installing a graphic pack i think ( Lazy Newb Pack ) But my question is, is there a different between using Lazy Newb Pack and just playing the regular in ASCII? If so, which should i start out with/will it have any effect?
Check out the video embedded on page 15 of this thread, at the beginning it will explain how to set everything up for you (plus alot of other useful info)
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Just downloaded but it seems like dwarffortresswiki is down?  Where to go for beginner help?
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On June 22 2011 00:34 protoge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 10:52 Haemonculus wrote:
So at around 79 level or so, I've found a layer composed almost entirely of semi-molten rock and/or warm stone. But no matter how many detours I take or exploring tunnels I dig, I can't find any real magma!
Any way to get through this undiggable layer? I want to kick my metal industry into high gear without burning down the entire forest! If you see a warm stone, go up a level and dig to the same spot. If you hit another warm stone, go up a level and repeat. If you don't hit warm stone 1 z level up, dig around it (All 9 squares around it). S = magma, X = warm stone, R = regular rock. This diagram is looking up z levels RRRRRRRRR RRRRXXXRR XXXXXXSXXX SSSSSSSSX If you hit that bottom right X, you dig up a level and go until you hit the warm stone. Repeat until you get to that top level. Because you see that it has no awrm stone, you know that there is no lava the layer below so you can mine that out. Chanel one of the spaces where it had been warm and you'll get a cavern-esque update giving you the location of all local magma.
I don't think its magma that's causing the warm stone. If its undiggable you probably don't want to go further down
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On June 22 2011 02:35 anilusion wrote:Just downloaded but it seems like dwarffortresswiki is down? Where to go for beginner help?
Works for me
http://df.magmawiki.com/
The best thing you can do tho is check out the video tutorials on youtube or page 15 of this thread
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On June 22 2011 02:35 anilusion wrote:Just downloaded but it seems like dwarffortresswiki is down? Where to go for beginner help?
Did you try this DF wiki?
That is the one I always use.
I would suggest reading this articlethis article too.
Feel free to pm me if you need any help. I can PM, skype, vent, or stream help for you. This goes for anyone who is new. I'm not a gosu at DF but I understand the game fairly well and am willing to help out.
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Man, I just got a massive goblin ambush inside year 1, wiped me out
Is his common?
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On June 22 2011 02:35 anilusion wrote:Just downloaded but it seems like dwarffortresswiki is down? Where to go for beginner help?
I personally started about 2-3 weeks ago with this youtube series. I think I watched the first 10 episodes before playing (and havent watched more since then).
This tutorial also seemed to be pretty good.
Overall I think it's save to say - dont try to absorb everything from the get go. Learn the real basics and then play - certain questions will pop up during play and then use the wiki to answer them (like how to set up a hospital, how to setup a pasture for animals, how to make soap, ...).
The learning aspect for me is actually the most fun aspect about the game. Always knowing there is SO MUCH STUFF to learn is nice. I personally havent even broken down into the caverns, dont know anything how to use magma, but I know there is so much more to explore.
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I need a refresher on how to play DF. I tried three times to establish a decent fortress, but I always got overrun by large mobs of invaders by the second or third year.
The military for the most part just seems to wander off and do its own thing despite my efforts to tell them to go train (yes, I checked the wiki). I was/am far too used to the older version of the military where the ordering the militia was very cumbersome, but the dwarves either eat, slept, or sparred. Nothing quite as entertaining as seeing 6 legendary wrestlers pretending to be chiropractors for dozens of goblins.
Perhaps another problem is that I always have the little guys making crafts so I can buy anything I need by the third trade caravan. In all three cases didn't even delve deeper than 10 levels under before I was overrun with FUN.
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read through a lot of this.
want a game i can play windowed whilst watching streams.
gonna install it.
what tile set is nice and easy.
I plan on keeping the wiki open and restarting many a time to get the hang of it.
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On June 22 2011 04:13 Vearo wrote:
I need a refresher on how to play DF. I tried three times to establish a decent fortress, but I always got overrun by large mobs of invaders by the second or third year.
The military for the most part just seems to wander off and do its own thing despite my efforts to tell them to go train (yes, I checked the wiki). I was/am far too used to the older version of the military where the ordering the militia was very cumbersome, but the dwarves either eat, slept, or sparred. Nothing quite as entertaining as seeing 6 legendary wrestlers pretending to be chiropractors for dozens of goblins.
Perhaps another problem is that I always have the little guys making crafts so I can buy anything I need by the third trade caravan. In all three cases didn't even delve deeper than 10 levels under before I was overrun with FUN.
The four easy steps to making your military train if they aren't.
1. Make a squad using the (m)ilitary screen and putting dwarves into a squad. (p)osition is the default view so you just need to move the cursor to the right and assign dwarves to be in the squad. Leave the default schedule for your squad.
2. Make a barracks just like the old version (place a bed, armor stand, or weapon rack. Make it a room. Set room to be a barracks.
2b. Select the item defining your barracks and on the bottom portion will be a list of squads that you can scroll through. You need to set the squad to use the barracks to train (t I believe) in that room or they won't use it.
3. (s)quad -> select the squad you made -> t to toggle them to active/training
4. Repeat for additional squads later on.
If your military isn't training you probably missed step 2b if the dwarves have recruit, wrestler, or <weapon>dwarf names. If your military is still acting like civilians you missed step 3. When setup like above they will train almost 100% of the time they aren't eating, drinking, sleeping, on break, or attending a party.
Also inactive dwarves assigned to a squad with an assigned barracks will still train some in their off time if given no tasks.
Then when you need to use the military use (s)quad o and issue a kill or move command. Use the schedules later when your military is bigger and you need to have defenses at the ready.
As for actually surviving ambushes, I don't know. So far I haven't had a problem with it so long as I can get 10 or so dwarves into the military armed with some sort of metal weapon and armor. Keep in mind the new military trains slower than the old one so you do need more dwarves in your military early on because you can't get a legendary fighter in a single year (unless maybe you use danger rooms).
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I'm starting to get bored with DF, no fun in a while. I was looking at these challenges but they dont seem too interesting. What's keep you playin once u discovered all the fun? Start fortress in a very shitty place?
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i just killed my legendary miner and broker because my first time bridge retraction timing was off, so he dropped 15 z-levels down into a cave. gg.
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On June 22 2011 05:51 Ottoxlol wrote:I'm starting to get bored with DF, no fun in a while. I was looking at these challenges but they dont seem too interesting. What's keep you playin once u discovered all the fun? Start fortress in a very shitty place?
Whatever you want to make it fun...
Run a long lasting fortress, run a fortress in a difficult area, download/play mods like Fortress Defense (lot harder enemies), run a fort with specific restrictions, run a fort that's lavish rather than functional, pretty much anything that you want.
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