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On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick.
thank you.
teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress.
EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway 
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On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway
Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively.
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EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway
Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs.
Therefore, you need to build them from the [b]uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:42 Sixtus wrote:Show nested quote +EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs. Therefore, you need to build them from the uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs.
+ Show Spoiler +[B]On June 23 2011 08:41 Wr4ith_Bl4d3 wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively.
thank you
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Pre - Day 1:+ Show Spoiler +On June 22 2011 04:53 ComaDose wrote:
read through a lot of this.
want a game i can play windowed whilst watching streams.
gonna install it.
what tile set is nice and easy.
I plan on keeping the wiki open and restarting many a time to get the hang of it.
Day 1:+ Show Spoiler +
Got the newb friendly pack.
I spent a significant amount of time telling the dwarfs to mine on ground level.
Looked up everything i could in the wiki made sure that they were set and equipped.
Yes you need to mine through walls/sub terrain.
I learned what a Z level is.
Going up a Z level is not going super saiyan.
I cut trees, piled wood brought everything inside, put my animals to pasture, put all the stones in the "garbage", had a place for poop.
Overall Day1 went well.
I only abandoned 2 fortresses... poor dwarfs. suffering for me being a perfectionist.
Now if only i could find some soil i wouldn't have to abandon this fresh batch.
My location has "some soil" and i've spread out on a few Z levels now looking for it.
Also cannot figure out how to irrigate and am wondering the effectiveness/cost/benefits of this.
We will see how it goes tonight!
Day 2:
What a day.
I feel like i actually started playing the game.
I made some bedrooms with beds and cabinets.
Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S
I made what i consider to be quite the luxurious office for my balin expedition leader who is now a manager.
I also made a farm! that was a hell of an experience that took at least an hour of figuring out how to resize and place and then get rid of all the shitty 1 square ones i initially made while trying to figure it out.
I asked for help and you guys were awesome+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:43 ComaDose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:42 Sixtus wrote:Show nested quote +EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs. Therefore, you need to build them from the uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs. [B]On June 23 2011 08:41 Wr4ith_Bl4d3 wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively. thank you
I seem to be trying to do everything at once and im not getting anything done.
The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why.
I better figure it out before I finish up these last 10 units of food :S
I learned something from the wording of the wiki etc. '"let" your dwarfs do something' we have virtually complete control if you have the time and effort to dictate every facet of their lives.
And you can pause so you have infinite time.
Every success in this game is so rewarding.
I was like "make stone table *fist pump* found it".
I am still scaling the sheer face of the learning cliff.
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On June 23 2011 22:13 ComaDose wrote:Pre - Day 1: + Show Spoiler +On June 22 2011 04:53 ComaDose wrote:
read through a lot of this.
want a game i can play windowed whilst watching streams.
gonna install it.
what tile set is nice and easy.
I plan on keeping the wiki open and restarting many a time to get the hang of it. Day 1: + Show Spoiler +
Got the newb friendly pack.
I spent a significant amount of time telling the dwarfs to mine on ground level.
Looked up everything i could in the wiki made sure that they were set and equipped.
Yes you need to mine through walls/sub terrain.
I learned what a Z level is.
Going up a Z level is not going super saiyan.
I cut trees, piled wood brought everything inside, put my animals to pasture, put all the stones in the "garbage", had a place for poop.
Overall Day1 went well.
I only abandoned 2 fortresses... poor dwarfs. suffering for me being a perfectionist.
Now if only i could find some soil i wouldn't have to abandon this fresh batch.
My location has "some soil" and i've spread out on a few Z levels now looking for it.
Also cannot figure out how to irrigate and am wondering the effectiveness/cost/benefits of this.
We will see how it goes tonight!
Day 2: What a day. I feel like i actually started playing the game. I made some bedrooms with beds and cabinets. Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S I made what i consider to be quite the luxurious office for my balin expedition leader who is now a manager. I also made a farm! that was a hell of an experience that took at least an hour of figuring out how to resize and place and then get rid of all the shitty 1 square ones i initially made while trying to figure it out. I asked for help and you guys were awesome + Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:43 ComaDose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:42 Sixtus wrote:Show nested quote +EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs. Therefore, you need to build them from the uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs. [B]On June 23 2011 08:41 Wr4ith_Bl4d3 wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively. thank you I got some smart mother fucking immigrants. And they brought an anvil so that'/s pretty sweet. I hear you need that. Now i just need to figure out what for. I seem to be trying to do everything at once and im not getting anything done. The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why. I better figure it out before I finish up these last 10 units of food :S I learned something from the wording of the wiki etc. '"let" your dwarfs do something' we have virtually complete control if you have the time and effort to dictate every facet of their lives. And you can pause so you have infinite time. Every success in this game is so rewarding. I was like "make stone table *fist pump* found it". I am still scaling the sheer face of the learning cliff.
You can build the coffers under the build menu using b -> h then selecting them using +- on the number pad (or keyboard if you're using the laptop bindings). They're considered containers.
edit: FUN! one of my fishers drowned in a river, so now his body is in there and now his ghost has risen and is haunting my mines >.< is there a way to get a body ouf of the river, besides attempting and failing and killing more dwarfs by making a dam or something to get the water away?
@MisterD you can make a memorial slab for him and place it and he will stop haunting you. This page should help: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Slab
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On June 23 2011 22:13 ComaDose wrote:
Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S
The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why.
b -> h ("build container" includes all sorts of bags, chests and coffers)
and dwarfs tend to suspend constructions when you build on top of a random item that you designated for dump. If it's not designated for dumping, they'll move it aside and build the building. But if it's designated, they won't touch it until it is dumped. only after that, you can successfully resume construction.
so i just dug down my staircase into the ground a little further and it turns out i hit a "smooth slade wall", telling me "you have found a curious underground structure" .. so i'm scared now ^^
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On June 23 2011 22:20 MisterD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 22:13 ComaDose wrote:
Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S
The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why.
b -> h ("build container" includes all sorts of bags, chests and coffers) and dwarfs tend to suspend constructions when you build on top of a random item that you designated for dump. If it's not designated for dumping, they'll move it aside and build the building. But if it's designated, they won't touch it until it is dumped. only after that, you can successfully resume construction. so i just dug down my staircase into the ground a little further and it turns out i hit a "smooth slade wall", telling me "you have found a curious underground structure" .. so i'm scared now ^^
Nothing to be scared of... unless you want the pretty adamantium weapons which probbbably isn't a trap.
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I seem to have real trouble training squads of mele dorfs, im in year 4 now and they dont seem to be getting better.
Ive set them in a squad, they have a barracks, schedule is set up correctly, but they just seem to gather round their weapons rack / barracks doing nothing! If they didn't have adamantium armour they would all be dead I'm sure.
Am I missing something obvious?
I have a squad of 8 legendary marksdorfs who have kept me safe thus far, but I cant see it lasting for ever.......
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^^They are assigned to the barracks and you have selected 'train' on the barracks building (the piece of furniture) itself? Squads of three seem to be the best in order to get them to spar, which is more effective than just them lecturing each other all day.
Often, I will assign my forces to unarmed and send them to beat up half dead creatures that the hunters didnt quite finish off. This trains things up relatively quickly in the beginning.
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If I build a floor a few tiles over an outdoor farm, does it still count as outdoor? Anyone know?
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On June 24 2011 10:53 Haemonculus wrote:
If I build a floor a few tiles over an outdoor farm, does it still count as outdoor? Anyone know?
"Once an area is exposed to the outside world, it is Above Ground and Light (and thus channeling this tile will make the tile below it also Above Ground and Light). Even after being covered up again, it will remain this way. This allows growing outdoor crops inside safely. " [source]
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Pre - Day 1:+ Show Spoiler +On June 22 2011 04:53 ComaDose wrote:
read through a lot of this.
want a game i can play windowed whilst watching streams.
gonna install it.
what tile set is nice and easy.
I plan on keeping the wiki open and restarting many a time to get the hang of it.
Day 1:+ Show Spoiler +
Got the newb friendly pack.
I spent a significant amount of time telling the dwarfs to mine on ground level.
Looked up everything i could in the wiki made sure that they were set and equipped.
Yes you need to mine through walls/sub terrain.
I learned what a Z level is.
Going up a Z level is not going super saiyan.
I cut trees, piled wood brought everything inside, put my animals to pasture, put all the stones in the "garbage", had a place for poop.
Overall Day1 went well.
I only abandoned 2 fortresses... poor dwarfs. suffering for me being a perfectionist.
Now if only i could find some soil i wouldn't have to abandon this fresh batch.
My location has "some soil" and i've spread out on a few Z levels now looking for it.
Also cannot figure out how to irrigate and am wondering the effectiveness/cost/benefits of this.
We will see how it goes tonight!
Day 2:+ Show Spoiler +What a day. I feel like i actually started playing the game. I made some bedrooms with beds and cabinets. Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S I made what i consider to be quite the luxurious office for my balin expedition leader who is now a manager. I also made a farm! that was a hell of an experience that took at least an hour of figuring out how to resize and place and then get rid of all the shitty 1 square ones i initially made while trying to figure it out. I asked for help and you guys were awesome + Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:43 ComaDose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:42 Sixtus wrote:Show nested quote +EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs. Therefore, you need to build them from the uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs. [B]On June 23 2011 08:41 Wr4ith_Bl4d3 wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively. thank you I got some smart mother fucking immigrants. And they brought an anvil so that'/s pretty sweet. I hear you need that. Now i just need to figure out what for. I seem to be trying to do everything at once and im not getting anything done. The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why. I better figure it out before I finish up these last 10 units of food :S I learned something from the wording of the wiki etc. '"let" your dwarfs do something' we have virtually complete control if you have the time and effort to dictate every facet of their lives. And you can pause so you have infinite time. Every success in this game is so rewarding. I was like "make stone table *fist pump* found it". I am still scaling the sheer face of the learning cliff.
Day 3:
I feel like i understand how dwarf fortress works.
Things that I am doing are having an affect on things that i want to happen in a meaningful way.
Some of the menus are becoming intuitive, I find myself saying things like:
"Obviously that's a zone."
Like I'm trying to help myself remember.
I have someone to trade with but i don't know what i need.
Time to form a decent militia, maybe some traps?
I'm nervous something is going to come kill me.
And i havn't tried to figure out how much time has passed either.
There are dwarfs i like and those i do not.
I finally started using dwarf therapist and its helped a lot.
I think the design of my fortress is sexy and cant wait to start a new one so i wont be sad when all these dwarfs get murdered.
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Armok dammit, I have one ghost hanging around and he's lagging the hell out of my game. Every time he appears, the game takes 2-3 seconds before everything resumes. I am trying to build a memorial slab as I type this to get rid of him, but its taking forever due to the LAG.
Just a heads up for anyone playing on 31.21
UPDATE:
Finally got that memorial slab up, and the lag is gone.
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Ok, big breakthrough.
After spending 4 years tring to set up a decent mele squad I finally got around to building a danger room. The results are ridiculous to the point I think this training method should probably be considered an exploit... is it?
It's a 4 by 4 room with each square containing a 10 training spear trap. two of my guys have gone from proficient fighters to legendary +5 inside a couple of dorf months, shield and weapon skills are going through the roof too.
Bring on the dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On June 24 2011 21:02 ComaDose wrote:Pre - Day 1: + Show Spoiler +On June 22 2011 04:53 ComaDose wrote:
read through a lot of this.
want a game i can play windowed whilst watching streams.
gonna install it.
what tile set is nice and easy.
I plan on keeping the wiki open and restarting many a time to get the hang of it. Day 1: + Show Spoiler +
Got the newb friendly pack.
I spent a significant amount of time telling the dwarfs to mine on ground level.
Looked up everything i could in the wiki made sure that they were set and equipped.
Yes you need to mine through walls/sub terrain.
I learned what a Z level is.
Going up a Z level is not going super saiyan.
I cut trees, piled wood brought everything inside, put my animals to pasture, put all the stones in the "garbage", had a place for poop.
Overall Day1 went well.
I only abandoned 2 fortresses... poor dwarfs. suffering for me being a perfectionist.
Now if only i could find some soil i wouldn't have to abandon this fresh batch.
My location has "some soil" and i've spread out on a few Z levels now looking for it.
Also cannot figure out how to irrigate and am wondering the effectiveness/cost/benefits of this.
We will see how it goes tonight!
Day 2: + Show Spoiler +What a day. I feel like i actually started playing the game. I made some bedrooms with beds and cabinets. Cant figure out how to place the 15 chalk coffers i made tho :S I made what i consider to be quite the luxurious office for my balin expedition leader who is now a manager. I also made a farm! that was a hell of an experience that took at least an hour of figuring out how to resize and place and then get rid of all the shitty 1 square ones i initially made while trying to figure it out. I asked for help and you guys were awesome + Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:43 ComaDose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 08:42 Sixtus wrote:Show nested quote +EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Since you had dug the stairs to create them, and then removed them, there is now no dirt/rock there to dig into another set of stairs. Therefore, you need to build them from the uild, [C]onstruction menu, where there is an option for up, down, and up/down stairs. [B]On June 23 2011 08:41 Wr4ith_Bl4d3 wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:25 ComaDose wrote:On June 23 2011 08:21 MisterD wrote:On June 23 2011 08:16 ComaDose wrote:
how do you remove stairs.
how do you turn off the music? for dug out stairs (e.g. d -> i stairs): d -> j (i believe, it's "remove upward stairs or ramps") for constructed staids (e.g. d -> C -> x stairs): d -> n as for music: i just have the sound turned of in my windows sound mixer. But you can edit the config i think .. yes: go to data/init/init.txt and set [SOUND:YES] to [SOUND:NO], should do the trick. thank you. teamliquid is the best resource for dwarf fortress. EDIT: I removed the ramp and now i cant build an up down stairway lol... or an up stairway Without an existing layer you're going to need to construct your stairs out of stone. You can do so by b->C->u / b->C->d / b->C->x for upward, downward and upward-downward stairs respectively. thank you I got some smart mother fucking immigrants. And they brought an anvil so that'/s pretty sweet. I hear you need that. Now i just need to figure out what for. I seem to be trying to do everything at once and im not getting anything done. The construction of my kitchen is suspended and i don't know why. I better figure it out before I finish up these last 10 units of food :S I learned something from the wording of the wiki etc. '"let" your dwarfs do something' we have virtually complete control if you have the time and effort to dictate every facet of their lives. And you can pause so you have infinite time. Every success in this game is so rewarding. I was like "make stone table *fist pump* found it". I am still scaling the sheer face of the learning cliff. Day 3: I feel like i understand how dwarf fortress works. Things that I am doing are having an affect on things that i want to happen in a meaningful way. Some of the menus are becoming intuitive, I find myself saying things like: "Obviously that's a zone." Like I'm trying to help myself remember. I have someone to trade with but i don't know what i need. Time to form a decent militia, maybe some traps? I'm nervous something is going to come kill me. And i havn't tried to figure out how much time has passed either. There are dwarfs i like and those i do not. I finally started using dwarf therapist and its helped a lot. I think the design of my fortress is sexy and cant wait to start a new one so i wont be sad when all these dwarfs get murdered.
Everyone has favorite dorfs. They usually get the good rooms and do the important quality work.
For dwarfs that show up without any really useful skills, (fish skills, or just like lvl1 in 2 various skills), I just mark them as either "Wench ____" or "Man-wench ____", and leave them on the default duty selection. So their purpose in life is hauling stuff around so the important dorfs don't need to waste their talents! Alternatively, you can draft those useless dorfs into the militia. My current fortress has just over 120 dorfs, and I have a total of 50 enlisted in the military. Usually 2/5 squads will be active/training at any time, and the rest serve as a reserve unit, or they all train if there's no big project to work on.
But when I just dug out a new level and need to move some stone, giving the army a break and letting them mine/haul rocks is useful, *and* mining makes your dorfs stronger! Or at least it used to.
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On June 24 2011 22:17 ChinaWhite wrote:
Ok, big breakthrough.
After spending 4 years tring to set up a decent mele squad I finally got around to building a danger room. The results are ridiculous to the point I think this training method should probably be considered an exploit... is it?
It's a 4 by 4 room with each square containing a 10 training spear trap. two of my guys have gone from proficient fighters to legendary +5 inside a couple of dorf months, shield and weapon skills are going through the roof too.
Bring on the dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woah, that's crazy! Do you just have them training in there? Or do they fight goblin prisoners? Do you drop them in there? lol
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On June 24 2011 22:18 Haemonculus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 22:17 ChinaWhite wrote:
Ok, big breakthrough.
After spending 4 years tring to set up a decent mele squad I finally got around to building a danger room. The results are ridiculous to the point I think this training method should probably be considered an exploit... is it?
It's a 4 by 4 room with each square containing a 10 training spear trap. two of my guys have gone from proficient fighters to legendary +5 inside a couple of dorf months, shield and weapon skills are going through the roof too.
Bring on the dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woah, that's crazy! Do you just have them training in there? Or do they fight goblin prisoners? Do you drop them in there? lol
I know, it's crazy!
I send them in with a move command (ie I station them in there) and then lock them in with an ordinary door. All he traps are linked to a single lever just outside the room. Once they are all trapped inside I order the level be pulled and set it to repeat with R (just like you would a workshop).
They then just stand there with all the wooden spears going off, dodging, blocking etc (soundsense actually provides a very nice log of what is happening in real time).
They do all have adamantium helms, plates, grieves and shields tho, I dont know if it would be viable with lesser armour or not.
It takes quite a while to set up but by the gods it's worth it!
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Hmmmm my army is fully outfitted in steel armor. I wonder if they'd survive? Perhaps if I used wooden spears?
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You must use wooden spears year, I think that bit is crucial.
I reckon steel would be fine - perhaps just use 5 or 6 spears in each trap instead of 10 to tone it done a little.
3 of my 8 man squad are now legendary shield users too! It literally takes minutes in real time it's insane.
Just remember to let them out to eat / drink :-) They dont mind sleeping in there tho!
Might double up as a good noble disposal system too.
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