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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I went in blind and one-shot Radahn. Learned afterwards that there is meant to be a second phase where he turns into a comet, didnt happen for me  I just followed him on my horse and smacked him from 100 to 0.Similar thing happened on one of my Godrick pulls, he never transitioned into phase 2. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
On March 11 2022 04:04 streets-ahead wrote: Okay, I have no idea where I should be going now. I have three great runes and now everything seems to be a whole new category of difficult. + Show Spoiler + Patches told me to let one of those statues kidnap me at the bottom of the giant waterwheel. So I discovered and explored Volcano Manor until I found the Boss. Godskin Apostle. Seems way too hard now. So I wanted to activate Radan's rune, found ANOTHER godskin apostle boss, also too hard. Insane HP. So I followed Blaidd into the Lost City, no spoilers here, but the second boss there is EVEN harder. Where should I go now? It’s a bit puzzling that you got 3 great runes and find those 3 bosses you listed way too hard. Which one is the Blaidd boss, + Show Spoiler + Astel The underground you explore during Blaidds errand contains lots of upgrade materials for both your weapons and ashen summons, are you leveling those up? | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On March 14 2022 06:52 Laurens wrote: Radahn spoilers below + Show Spoiler + I went in blind and one-shot Radahn. Learned afterwards that there is meant to be a second phase where he turns into a comet, didnt happen for me I just followed him on my horse and smacked him from 100 to 0.Similar thing happened on one of my Godrick pulls, he never transitioned into phase 2. + Show Spoiler + Definitely weird that that seems to be such a common-ish occurence. I've had some bosses myself, like the ulcerated tree spirit, that will just stop doing anything for no reason and let me freely whack away. For Radahn, part of what I loved so much about the fight was figuring out how to survive him crashing down on you as a comet so you could even engage with him in the second half. That attack is very scary. | ||
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lestye
United States4149 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
 I played Sekiro -> DS 3 -> Demon's Souls -> Elden Ring Out of those 4 I'd say Sekiro is by far the hardest, Demon's Souls by far the easiest, so the 'best' order to play them in would probably have been Demon Souls -> DS 3 /Elden Ring (the jury is still out on which of these is harder) -> Sekiro but I don't feel like I ruined my own experience or something. I find that Elden Ring being open world and a generally massive game allows for various ways to make your character overpowered, makes it more forgiving for players that are new to the series. A good introduction to the DS series imo. I don't think it will ruin your enjoyment of the other games, they hold up well, though I haven't played the 2 you listed. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
I'd say, no matter what else, if someone is going to have a first impression of the Souls series, it should be DS1, period. I wouldn't budge on that. When it sinks its teeth into you, the experience is like nothing else. The foundational experience of Dark Souls 1 is something I would recommend to anyone patient enough to withhold on Elden Ring for a spell. Elden Ring having the open world to explore when a fight is frustrating can be a huge boon for some players, and obviously the game is gorgeous, and having George's input in the world building gives it a whole new kind of appeal, so it's hard to say not to start there, but the skeleton and genealogy of Dark Souls/Demon's Souls are plain to see, and I think having an appreciation of where Elden Ring comes from will give you an appreciation of where Elden Ring is going, too. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
On March 14 2022 16:19 lestye wrote: fwiw, my personal experience was DS2 -> Bloodborne -> DS3 -> DS1 -> Demon Souls -> Elden Ring.This game has had so much hype and praise, but I’ve never gotten far into Fromsoft titles. I have Dark Souls Remastered and Bloodbone on PS5, should I play those before I dive into Elden Ring? I see a lot of people picking up elden ring as their first fromsoft title but im not sure if that would be to my detriment. I know of several game series where playing the new shiny thing might make the original titles’ rough edges hard to swallow. Even tho I got into DS1 quite late, I still enjoyed it, though with tempered expectations. While I can see why people absolutely loved it, it had some faults and I know of many of first timers who tried it and couldn't get through it. I think Elden Ring is a solid starting point, it is very forgiving in a number of ways, with a lot of QoL changes. I wonder though that it would make going back seem more difficult. If you have trouble getting into FromSoftware games at all though, I would just go with the one that appeals to you and hit the ground running. If that is Elden Ring then go for it. If you end up hooked then you'll probably enjoy the previous ones too, if you get bored then maybe these games just not your style. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
10/10 open world game, 6/10 Souls game for me. I felt punished for exploring, because I got so 'overlevelled' that the bosses felt too easy. + Show Spoiler + Godfrey and Morgott in the first version of Leyndell Not to mention the various OP Weapons/Spells/Ashes/Summons you can find in the world. Mimic Tear +10 is essentially adding an Easy Mode to the game without calling it Easy Mode. | ||
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streets-ahead
21 Posts
I just beat Astel and made it to Rykard's bonfire afterwards. | ||
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Latham
9555 Posts
On March 20 2022 07:20 streets-ahead wrote: Man I shouldn't have relied on Night and Flame so much, now that it's nerfed I'm getting my ass kicked even more than before. Are there any weapons that are still reasonably OP for PVE? I just beat Astel and made it to Rykard's bonfire afterwards. Word on the street is that Arcane scaling bleed weapons are stupidly overpowered now. The catch is, you kinda need to progress far into the game itself for the good stuff like Rivers of Blood and trident/spear with arcane scaling. Otherwise I guess a basic Katana or twinblade or hookclaws with some blood weapon art will work fine? The only problem is that not everything bleeds... like gargoyles and ghosts. They also buffed sorceries so the good ol' Moonveil and/or Dark Moon Greatsword (Moonlight GS in previous games) should be good. You can peruse YT to find build videos like: + Show Spoiler [bleed] + + Show Spoiler [faith] + But honestly be prepared for the bleed build to be nerfed any second. This also happened in DS3. Bleed/Luck was very good then they basically overnerfed it and stomped it out of existence just like they did with hoarfrost stomp this patch. Seems like FromSoft is *really* heavy-handed with their nerfs and often overnerfs things into oblivion. DS2 faith is yet another example of this... released overtuned then it was nerfed into the fucking ground. But that's what larval tears are for I guess... | ||
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streets-ahead
21 Posts
I they should have just nerfed the R1 weapon art, the hit damage wasn't an issue in my view. Perhaps I'll try the Darkmoon Greatsword now, though it annoys me that the R2 isn't a stab. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
Shield was used more than usual in this game as well, guard counter is just so satisfying | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
The amount of content is just unreal. ~25 hours were spent just in Limgrave running around exploring shit, and I'm like going through the wiki just ticking things off. I've spent like 30 hours or so, and I'm still pretty bad. I just power leveled my character using the rolling ball/cliff until ~40, and then proceeded to cheese bosses in various ways. Currently just 2handing the golden halberd because it has pretty good damage when mounted, and oneshotting stuff makes life easier. I think I'm done Limgrave and Weeping peninsula now. This game is going to take ages. | ||
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streets-ahead
21 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
On March 19 2022 22:43 Laurens wrote: Got all achievements. 10/10 open world game, 6/10 Souls game for me. I felt punished for exploring, because I got so 'overlevelled' that the bosses felt too easy. + Show Spoiler + Godfrey and Morgott in the first version of Leyndell Not to mention the various OP Weapons/Spells/Ashes/Summons you can find in the world. Mimic Tear +10 is essentially adding an Easy Mode to the game without calling it Easy Mode. Yeah, I felt the same way w.r.t to exploration and making the game too easy. It makes sense that the game is harder to tune with the open world but it made some bosses seem a lot less epic when I could take them down in 3-5 jump attacks, while also staggering them. For me personally, I think Bloodborne / DS1 will still reign supreme as best Souls game, but Elden Ring has a ton of replayability and build variety. Once you know what you can skip it's a lot quicker of a playthrough and you probably won't have the same open world issues. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
I am a complete noob to souls games so I basically over leveled (beat the game at like level 130) and abused mimic tear because I was so worried about getting hard stuck. Going to explore a bit more and go find Melania and the dragon lord and after that I will start a NG+ with the training wheels off and explore more side stuff since in my play through I found the ending I wanted then narrow focused on that. I missed an insane amount of content that I can't wait to discover next go. Hopefully I can git gud training myself in NG+ Dunno what build I will go. Did a faith build with sycthes into Blasphemous Blade end game. Mimic Tear + BB really made some bosses trivial so going to do something more traditional where I actually have to learn the fights and proper dodging and dps windows. | ||
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streets-ahead
21 Posts
burn down the Erdtree | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On March 22 2022 04:39 streets-ahead wrote: I'm not sure I want to continue along with the Melina quest. She wants me to help her + Show Spoiler + burn down the Erdtree Not that I know of. | ||
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streets-ahead
21 Posts
The way they're willing to hide some of their best content behind absolutely optional side content off the beaten path is incredible to me. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4536 Posts
 Spoiler on how many there are: + Show Spoiler + 7 shardbearers (technically Rennala isn't one), 5 of these are fairly obvious and can be done 'along the road', 2 of them are rather well hidden and could be considered post-game superbosses. | ||
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