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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
November 23 2020 18:32 GMT
#161
Part II with the remnants of part I was the best part of the event for me.

The story felt so short on part III too, on top of being a bit long for each meteor challenge. Maybe there will be more plot after doing it 7 times?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 23 2020 23:09 GMT
#162
The next 5* is Zhongli.

No idea about next glitter character but my guess is Kaeya or Lisa as the F2P and maybe the Chongers as the Gacha character.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-24 00:49:08
November 24 2020 00:43 GMT
#163
Beidou works best as a support. You swap her in for counters and to ult and thats it. She can be really good that way, especially if you get good at switch instant countering.

Xiangling with cresant pike is a good carry and Fischl is a good unit. Ningguang can slap but she needs heavy investment and farming for petra set (she can be a good burst support with Petra 4 set but her DPS set iirc is 2 Petra 2 Glad).

Later on in the abyss countering specific elements in both teams becomes big for breaking shields. I think I ended up even using a lvl 20 amber in 1 clear just to break shields.

Decide on your primary dpsers and invest in them the most and you can get away with a lot less investment in the supports and healers (just make sure they aren't weak enough to get 1 shot).


I really want Xinyan for another Pyro user so hope I get her.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6925 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-24 08:34:17
November 24 2020 08:25 GMT
#164
On November 24 2020 03:24 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 02:58 Lysteria wrote:
Next 5 stars is going to be Zhongli, no?


Yes, right after Childe ends or 1 day after...

So what are your opinions on the last meteor event? I'm kinda torn on it, it's kinda boring both ways, solo and CO-OP.
I can't seem to get a time under 5 minutes no matter how hard I try.


Co-op is way easier and less annoying cause sometimes in solo some archers spawn random and interrupt the meteor mechanic. Did it twice in ~3 min yesterday. Comp was something like Keqing, Childe, Diluc and Diona. We were all all ~AR44 so everyone kinda knew what do to for elemtal reactions and more importantly pull aggro if someone was doing transfer.

Thought Zonghli is confirmed to come in a week? Not sure what 4* he brings with him.
I am now 70 pulls into Childe banner and was so sure that I want him. Now I'm on the fence if I wait for Zhongli after watching some leaks ^^

EDIT: I love the whole Fischl thing. The way she talks and how Oz explains everything and the wannabe German in there is just too funny xD
If Fischl wasn't my waifu before, now she definitely is <3

EDIT2:

This was the leak for 1.1
Childe (Hydro Bow)
Ningguang (Geo Catalyst)
Beidou (Electro Claymore)
Diona (Cryo Bow)

Zhongli (Geo Polearm)
Razor (Electro Claymore)
Chongyun (Cryo Claymore)
Xinyan (Pyro Claymore)

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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
November 24 2020 15:39 GMT
#165
I wonder if I should try and get a third Childe, got my first one after 80~ pulls and the second one after 10 more. Or if I should save for Xinyan because I really want a fire support and I'm torn on Bennett.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6925 Posts
November 26 2020 09:31 GMT
#166
Yesterday I did the co-op event a bunch to get all the juicy books and one time we cleared it in 2:20 :D
Who knew that full geared Venti/ Klee was a good comp

Still on the fence if I want to go for Childe. I already have Mona, Xingqiu and Barbara for water, but only Noelle and MC for Geo. This means I have enough water that I don't NEED more water and not enough Geo that Zhongli might actually not be good for me cause I can't really use his Geo explosions. And I have a Rust just sitting there but if I get Zhongli I might have to give him XL's Crescent Pike :/

Also I'm 32 out of 34 Stardust for Bennet. Or I wait what comes in 5 days. Man I'm so torn right now
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
November 26 2020 17:11 GMT
#167
I'm done with this event, I bought out all books. Now I'm going to play the waiting game and see if I should roll on Zhongli or wait for Xiao in February.

I should also hit WL6 tomorrow by hitting AR45. The dungeon to level up will be a pain in the ass to do, as it always is, but I believe it will be worth it. I desperately need to start farming trinkets after.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 26 2020 17:49 GMT
#168
I actually didn't find the WL6 dungeon that bad. It's long and uninteresting since it's always the same, but having a significant amount of resources sunk into my main team at this point made it pretty easy.

On November 26 2020 18:31 Harris1st wrote:
Yesterday I did the co-op event a bunch to get all the juicy books and one time we cleared it in 2:20 :D
Who knew that full geared Venti/ Klee was a good comp

Still on the fence if I want to go for Childe. I already have Mona, Xingqiu and Barbara for water, but only Noelle and MC for Geo. This means I have enough water that I don't NEED more water and not enough Geo that Zhongli might actually not be good for me cause I can't really use his Geo explosions. And I have a Rust just sitting there but if I get Zhongli I might have to give him XL's Crescent Pike :/

Also I'm 32 out of 34 Stardust for Bennet. Or I wait what comes in 5 days. Man I'm so torn right now

As previously mentioned, Bennett is one of the most broken supports in the game. Unmatched healing, team atk buff that scales well, cleansing capability, low cd on his skill, pyro reactions, etc. He's straight up the best healer/support in a lot of team comps.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6925 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-27 08:29:10
November 27 2020 08:26 GMT
#169
On November 27 2020 02:11 Latham wrote:
I'm done with this event, I bought out all books. Now I'm going to play the waiting game and see if I should roll on Zhongli or wait for Xiao in February.

I should also hit WL6 tomorrow by hitting AR45. The dungeon to level up will be a pain in the ass to do, as it always is, but I believe it will be worth it. I desperately need to start farming trinkets after.


I had a severe lack of talents and artifacts before the event. Now I only lack artifacts, which is nice. But I hear those are a pain to farm. First you need to be lucky to get the one you want. Then you need to roll somewhat good stats on it. And then the 5* need a shitton of mats to upgrade to level 20. This is also the only task in my adventure's book that is sitting there for forever now "upgrade 8 artifacts to level 20"
I don't want to upgrade suboptimal shit to level 20 :/
I will also hit AR45 either today or tomorrow but since I've done all bosses this week already there is no rush

On November 27 2020 02:49 Spazer wrote:
As previously mentioned, Bennett is one of the most broken supports in the game. Unmatched healing, team atk buff that scales well, cleansing capability, low cd on his skill, pyro reactions, etc. He's straight up the best healer/support in a lot of team comps.


Okay okay I'll get him :D
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-27 13:17:53
November 27 2020 13:07 GMT
#170
Bennett belong in the mines:
+ Show Spoiler +


If you don't want to use Bennett, you don't have to.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 28 2020 07:55 GMT
#171
You definitely don't *need* to use Bennett but he makes life much easier.

I'd say in terms of overall overpoweredness my #1 and #2 are Bennett and Xingqiu respectively. Yes Klee and Diluc do more damage, but you can generate damage in other ways, whereas the whole collection of BS that Bennett brings as well as XQ's abuse of the reaction system are unparalleled and frankly one-of-a-kind at the moment. Goodness if they ever release a superior version of Bennett - that's when you'll know the power creep is very real.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-28 18:53:23
November 28 2020 18:52 GMT
#172
It's a joke. Bennett is an amazing support buffer and healer. I just find it amazing that a guy managed to beat floor 12-3, the hardest challenge in the game, with just the characters/constellation and weapons that everybody else has access to, to the point he ignores Bennett, the single non-guaranteed guy in his roster.

Point is, no-one should feel pressured to spend currency to get specific characters they may not enjoy having if challenges can be played without them. Harris1st should save his starglitter (he confused it with stardust) for characters he may want to enjoy playing instead. Unless of course he doesn't care and he just want the power.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 28 2020 19:37 GMT
#173
There is a catch though. It took Envi what, 50 hours of attempts to do it? Over the course of a month? While it shows that f2p clears of 12-3 are possible, it also shows that it requires singular dedication and an almost absurd amount of resources to build such a team.

It's rare for utility in a gacha game to be necessary, but there's no denying that it gives you a lot more freedom with regards to teambuilding.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-29 21:25:01
November 29 2020 21:22 GMT
#174
Well, the nature of abyss is that if you can do it once, you can do it again and again with no problems in the future.Your charcaters can only get stronger afterall and his chracters stop progressing for a week just so he could get Fischl which let him complete Floor 12. I don't see the need to push the idea that harris1st needs a specific character. He'll certainly regret it if he buys then whatever is next (I guess Keaya and Xiangling) are the characters he really wants to buy. Though if he doesn't care and just want whatever can be built potentially strongest, Bennett is the way to go.
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-30 01:00:36
November 30 2020 01:00 GMT
#175
What level should most of my artifacts be in if I'm mostly level 60 with my characters? I just moved to WR5 and things definitely feel like they toughened up a notch. When I failed a domain earlier, it came up with those team stats and my character levels were 100%, but my artifacts % we closer to 30%... I've leveled up certain artifacts just to clear some adventurer handbook stuff but otherwise I've mostly avoided it, but even so I've burned up a lot of artifacts that were 1 and 2 star in doing so, and I fear that I've found most of the common chests by now.

I only have 2 5-star artifacts and 83 4 star ones. 581 3-star. I also have not been able to find Noblesse Oblige and some of them other more recommended ones yet. I just scraped by getting 7 Gladiator's Finale, 6 Martial Artists and 5 Maiden's Beloveds. And of all of those, only 1 Gladiator's Nostalgia and Conductor's Top Hat are the only 5 stars.

Running out of Mora and Red/Purple books to try to get my characters up to snuff, and I'm wondering at what point I should go the same route finally with my artifacts or if I should wait until after achieving something else.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-30 01:45:50
November 30 2020 01:32 GMT
#176
You should consider running domains in multiplayer mode if you're struggling to string some artifact sets together. AT WR5 you should mainly focus on bosses that give upgrade mats (which will also give you Gladiator's gear) and don't think about using resin refills yet for artifact farming in domains, because it will just be a waste.

Don't stress too much about 5-star artifacts. It's perfectly fine to upgrade purples to +16 if the main stat + sub stats are good. Then, when you finally get good gold-tier artifacts, you can feed those purples into the goldens to get like 90% of the XP invested, back.

Noblesse Oblige, Firewitch, Maiden's Beloved, Thundersoother all come from running domains, it's natural you didn't find any yet.

edit: Also level 60 at WR5? Feels low like hell, Immediately get your main DPS to 80. And his weapon as well. Don't forget to upgrade talents to lv 6+. It's a lot of tedious book farming but it's worth it.

If you're not a whale, focus your resources. Don't get everyone to 80/70... just the 4 members you bring everywhere. Did you rob the Northern Bank chest in Liyue for 200K? Did you trade in your anemo/geo geodes for mora? The limited options are a good trade. Infinite, not so much.
Books are a problem for everyone and there really isn't a solution.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 30 2020 02:06 GMT
#177
If you're strapped for mora, I suspect you're spreading your resources too thin. Definitely focus on your carries above all else.

Artifact levels are mostly only crucial for your carry. They should be equipped with minimum 4* for all slots at this point. You'll get some 5* here and there from running the weekly bosses.

While we talk a lot about substats for artifacts, the main stat is what makes an artifact worth considering vs being outright garbage. For main stats, the following is important:
  • Flower will always be HP.
  • Feather will always be flat ATK
  • Cup can roll elemental or physical %
  • Hat can roll crit rate/crit dmg

Thus, the most important artifact to level is your feather. It's an easy way to boost atk. Cup is the second most important IF the main stat is the correct type of damage.

Set bonuses are pretty tough to manage. Expect to use random 2-set bonuses until you hit WL6.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6925 Posts
November 30 2020 08:24 GMT
#178
On November 29 2020 03:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It's a joke. Bennett is an amazing support buffer and healer. I just find it amazing that a guy managed to beat floor 12-3, the hardest challenge in the game, with just the characters/constellation and weapons that everybody else has access to, to the point he ignores Bennett, the single non-guaranteed guy in his roster.

Point is, no-one should feel pressured to spend currency to get specific characters they may not enjoy having if challenges can be played without them. Harris1st should save his starglitter (he confused it with stardust) for characters he may want to enjoy playing instead. Unless of course he doesn't care and he just want the power.


It was not that I didn't want him, just that I didn't want to start spending cause of him (or any character for that matter)
Luckily I hadn't done much Spiral yet so there were quite a few Primogems to get there. Then got lucky in the roll to get another Diona which gave me my last 2 missing Starglitters to get Bennett with a few hours left
All that is left to do now is to build him up which will take forever cause I put everything I got in to get Childe up to par.
Probably thje most "life sucking out of you" mechanic is not to get characters but to get them where the rest of the team is. I really hope they put in some sort of chatch up mechanic with 1.2 otherwise getting new characters is a curse instead of a reward :/
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6925 Posts
November 30 2020 08:42 GMT
#179
On November 30 2020 10:00 kyarisan wrote:
What level should most of my artifacts be in if I'm mostly level 60 with my characters? I just moved to WR5 and things definitely feel like they toughened up a notch. When I failed a domain earlier, it came up with those team stats and my character levels were 100%, but my artifacts % we closer to 30%... I've leveled up certain artifacts just to clear some adventurer handbook stuff but otherwise I've mostly avoided it, but even so I've burned up a lot of artifacts that were 1 and 2 star in doing so, and I fear that I've found most of the common chests by now.

I only have 2 5-star artifacts and 83 4 star ones. 581 3-star. I also have not been able to find Noblesse Oblige and some of them other more recommended ones yet. I just scraped by getting 7 Gladiator's Finale, 6 Martial Artists and 5 Maiden's Beloveds. And of all of those, only 1 Gladiator's Nostalgia and Conductor's Top Hat are the only 5 stars.

Running out of Mora and Red/Purple books to try to get my characters up to snuff, and I'm wondering at what point I should go the same route finally with my artifacts or if I should wait until after achieving something else.


You get a lot more 5* artifacts from AR40 - 45 just by doing the stuff you always do like weekly bosses and element bosses.
The next quest in the Handbook is to bring eight 5* to level 20 which will use up ALL your 1* - 3* artifacts and most of your 4* artifacts. Levels 16 - 20 need insane amounts of artifact XP
I just reached WR6 yesterday and now I'm finally thinking about running artifact domains

Did you guys notice that domain rewards are influenced by clear time? I'm not sure yet but I think there is a connection there. Will do some googling / redditing on this
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 30 2020 13:24 GMT
#180
I think Domain drops are just RNG. Let us know if you find anything though!

I think events and such give enough stuff to level someone for the most part, but it would be nice if they could give a little bit more. As someone who doesn't fret about levels beyond hitting 60 I'm mostly caught up on leveling people though. That said I do get the BP which is a significant amount of resources.
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