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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
March 28 2019 23:39 GMT
#21
This game is godlike.
Exploration is top tier
as is the combat.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 29 2019 00:53 GMT
#22
Kind of disappointed, expect a more souls like game, got a more Nioh like game
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
March 29 2019 04:04 GMT
#23
On March 28 2019 01:25 Harris1st wrote:
Some speedrunner completed this in 1 hour 25 mins O.O

50 min now.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 29 2019 12:28 GMT
#24
I had the timing of the sword step counter down for a boss and then lost it last night. I expect to regain it again after work today, but there is nothing more frustrating than knowing you had it earlier and losing it for unknown reasons.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
March 30 2019 13:59 GMT
#25
Jesus Christ, that Guardian Ape is really testing my patience. I've been fighting this guy for about two hours now and I never got him below 50% in his second phase...
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 30 2019 14:52 GMT
#26
On March 30 2019 22:59 JoeCool wrote:
Jesus Christ, that Guardian Ape is really testing my patience. I've been fighting this guy for about two hours now and I never got him below 50% in his second phase...

I was dealing with him yesterday and yeah, what a pain in the a. Second phase the only thing I did that worked was wait for his "slow poke" and jump over the sword, get 1-2 hits, run the hell away. Normal swing combo, just block. If he jumps into air and does a horizontal slash, jump over, and deflect/riposte when he hits from his sword up high - if done well you'll stun him for few precious seconds. Just needs tons of patience.

But
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He is back now to ruin my day later on. I noped the hell outta when I saw second phase this time.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 30 2019 16:18 GMT
#27
Trickiest part of the game so far for me is really knowing if I'm on the right path or if I'm somewhere I don't need to be yet. Just dealing "low damage" to a boss or whatever doesn't necessarily tell you much because there've been fights that took forever that I comfortably handled and felt great and smooth, and others that just embarrass you and make me feel like I'm missing a useful skill or prosthetic tool/upgrade that would really tie the room together.

Though I'm sure it's also more than possible to do everything with no upgrades or skills or tools or items so get good etc etc
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
March 30 2019 16:43 GMT
#28
Honestly, there is no correct path to follow. Once you hit Ashina castle after blazing bull, its all open. Lone shadow and Ashina 7 spears all feel too technical for you? Go through the dungeon to mt. Sengo. Don't want to face Genichiro quite yet? Jump down to Ashina depths or go to Gun Fort.
Sure, you can't get the story critical items before you beat Genichiro, but you can go to all the zones that have them, pick up a few prayer beads or memories, fight the bosses and farm mobs there.
I initially made the comparison with Nioh too, but Sekiro is most definitely not like it. Its not souls either, its its own beast.
Nioh was getting to Way of the Nioh and farming mobs for orange gear and then farming Void boss gauntlet fot proper sets like susanoo.

Sekiro has none of that. You upgrade your prosthetic to open up more options while fighting, they arent a must-have. Its horizontal progression, not vertical. You can parry spam and R1 your way to victory herr if you want.
Also no crutch like living weapon to pop and burst down a boss.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 30 2019 17:12 GMT
#29
I hated fighting every non human boss in this game but almost every human boss is amazing. Also killer final boss imo to end the game.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 30 2019 17:38 GMT
#30
On March 30 2019 22:59 JoeCool wrote:
Jesus Christ, that Guardian Ape is really testing my patience. I've been fighting this guy for about two hours now and I never got him below 50% in his second phase...


He took me a long time, but I think it's because of how different both phases need to be played.

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First phase is very heavy speed because he feels way more unpredictable ( fuck his jump into grab attack btw, sometimes you just can't run that one ), second can be played very slow

My advice if you are still on him, play the second phase extremely slow and dark soul style. Deflect every sword attack ( if you deflect the big upward swing, you get a stun and free damage ), jump the run into cleave, and the jump into low cleave, then do a bit of damage there.

But, everytime you do damage or avoid an attack, watch out for him moving the head arm for the scream and just run away early.

You don't actually need to find more damage opportunities than the one he gives you from the deflect stun and the time you avoid the cleave. You can do the second phase taking no damage beside a bit of scream if you run too slow.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
March 30 2019 18:40 GMT
#31
On March 30 2019 22:59 JoeCool wrote:
Jesus Christ, that Guardian Ape is really testing my patience. I've been fighting this guy for about two hours now and I never got him below 50% in his second phase...


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Phase two, run a lot.
Circle around behind him.
Use that terror flask.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
March 30 2019 19:48 GMT
#32
For human bosses it is usually better to aim to fill their posture bar and do a fatal attack once you break them. For animals attack their hp pool directly.
I saved up all my spirit tokens for phase 2, and lit the bastard on fire in between slashing. With oil on him btw.
Also Ashina cross chunks him quite nicely, but it costs spirit tokens too unfortunately.
I feel like all the weapon arts should be free of charge, even the most powerful ones. Would make for a nice crutch for weaker players and also reward you for investing so many skill points to get them in the first place...

For monkeys 2nd phase the gourd that reduces terror build-up is also very useful. You get it in Ashina Dephts, Mibu village waypoint vendor
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 14:04:55
April 01 2019 13:11 GMT
#33
You can use the loaded spear on his neck when he falls down to “pull” it into a state where you can do extra damage. Only works in the second phase obviously.

Edit: Also, apparently the second stage is weak against the mortal blade too.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 01 2019 15:56 GMT
#34
Everything that has those worms inside them is weak to the mortal blade, I think that's the idea.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 15:59:16
April 01 2019 15:58 GMT
#35
I bet that iron umbrella makes is real easy to deflect that overhead attack from second form too. Then to do a crap ton of posture damage by yanking at the worm. I'll have to see if that is the case.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 17:32:07
April 01 2019 17:31 GMT
#36
If not mortal blade,
then try divine confetti.
Damage goes way up.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 01 2019 17:41 GMT
#37
Really? Divine Confetti works on Ape's 2nd phase? So weird... I thought it worked on incorporeal enemies only like headless, shchinen warriors and Water lady...
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 17:49:52
April 01 2019 17:48 GMT
#38
On April 02 2019 02:41 Latham wrote:
Really? Divine Confetti works on Ape's 2nd phase? So weird... I thought it worked on incorporeal enemies only like headless, shchinen warriors and Water lady...

Its undead, like them. Literally headless. My plan is to dump on him with Divine Confetti and then pull out that grub in the neck for big posture damage.

Also, enemies like headless and shchinen warriors take small amounts of damage from some prosthetic tools. Just not enough to make it worth it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 22:49:41
April 02 2019 22:45 GMT
#39
https://www.speedrun.com/sekiro

39 minutes any% with skipping 1-2 bosses, but still these people are insane. In 40 minutes I probably wasn't even at the chained ogre yet...

btw, watch some of these speedrunners do bosses. Yes they DO get hit, but how they dismantle some of the more technical bosses like Genichiro or Isshin or Emma is unreal. So crisp, so perfect. The deflects are perfect, the ichimonjis are on point and I generally feel like a baboon flailing around with controller watching them do this.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
April 03 2019 18:48 GMT
#40
Had some streams on in the background this week since I won't have time to play and beat it myself anytime soon, I saw the end of the game:
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Woah.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
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