So on October 19th, 2017 this baby is going to hit the Windows 10 store (exclusively). Assets will be remade into full 3D, Limit size will be increased, Pathfinding will be improved, Attack move will be featured and most importantly - we get ladder.
Poll: Will you buy the Definitive Edition
Not if it's Windows Store exclusive (28)
62%
No, I'm not interested (9)
20%
Yes (8)
18%
45 total votes
Your vote: Will you buy the Definitive Edition
(Vote): Yes (Vote): Not if it's Windows Store exclusive (Vote): No, I'm not interested
Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
If you have Windows 10, it's already installed, you don't have a choice on that matter. If you don't have Windows 10, the game is not supported for your OS (Win 7&8 are not supported).
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
If you have Windows 10, it's already installed, you don't have a choice on that matter. If you don't have Windows 10, the game is not supported for your OS (Win 7&8 are not supported).
Sorry I don't see how this contradicts anything I said. I'm well aware of what you're saying.
But for me personally no amount of hostageware games, no matter how good or how anticipated will convince me to switch to Win10. And as far as I know most PC gamers feel the same way. MS is dooming its games to failure by continuing down this path; it's doubly worse for games like AoE which are only on Win10 store and not Xbox One (because of course an AoE game wouldn't work well on controller).
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
If you have Windows 10, it's already installed, you don't have a choice on that matter. If you don't have Windows 10, the game is not supported for your OS (Win 7&8 are not supported).
Sorry I don't see how this contradicts anything I said. I'm well aware of what you're saying.
But for me personally no amount of hostageware games, no matter how good or how anticipated will convince me to switch to Win10. And as far as I know most PC gamers feel the same way. MS is dooming its games to failure by continuing down this path; it's doubly worse for games like AoE which are only on Win10 store and not Xbox One (because of course an AoE game wouldn't work well on controller).
Umm Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7. Most likely in 5 years or a similar time frame. So next time you buy a new computer it seems reasonable to me for you to switch to Windows 10 so you don't have to switch once you hit end of life on your OS.
As somebody that can have legit Windows 7 or legit Windows 10 installed, I have Windows 10. No ransomware or anything that made me switch. Was just time to re-install and thus I upgraded, no real difference for my personal use. At work I find I like Windows 10 over Windows 7. Your specific user case might be different from mine though. I just don't think most PC gamers feel as you do. There is hardly any gaming difference between 7 and 10 for the vast majority of users. Even in 7 you had to run Dosbox or emulate older OSes in some cases, since I switched OS I havn't hit a single game I couldn't run that I could beforehand. There are likely some but I assume the majority does not run into them.
I did google a bit and most places talking about gaming seemed to recommend Windows 10 for DX12 support and slightly better in-game performance. Windows 7 if you play a lot of late 90's, early 2000's games. Earlier than that and you have to emulate in both cases.
Edit
Just thought of the best showcase: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ Over 50% of steam users are on Windows 10, which I would say qualify as PC gamers.
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
If you have Windows 10, it's already installed, you don't have a choice on that matter. If you don't have Windows 10, the game is not supported for your OS (Win 7&8 are not supported).
Sorry I don't see how this contradicts anything I said. I'm well aware of what you're saying.
But for me personally no amount of hostageware games, no matter how good or how anticipated will convince me to switch to Win10. And as far as I know most PC gamers feel the same way. MS is dooming its games to failure by continuing down this path; it's doubly worse for games like AoE which are only on Win10 store and not Xbox One (because of course an AoE game wouldn't work well on controller).
Umm Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7. Most likely in 5 years or a similar time frame. So next time you buy a new computer it seems reasonable to me for you to switch to Windows 10 so you don't have to switch once you hit end of life on your OS.
As somebody that can have legit Windows 7 or legit Windows 10 installed, I have Windows 10. No ransomware or anything that made me switch. Was just time to re-install and thus I upgraded, no real difference for my personal use. At work I find I like Windows 10 over Windows 7. Your specific user case might be different from mine though. I just don't think most PC gamers feel as you do. There is hardly any gaming difference between 7 and 10 for the vast majority of users. Even in 7 you had to run Dosbox or emulate older OSes in some cases, since I switched OS I havn't hit a single game I couldn't run that I could beforehand. There are likely some but I assume the majority does not run into them.
I did google a bit and most places talking about gaming seemed to recommend Windows 10 for DX12 support and slightly better in-game performance. Windows 7 if you play a lot of late 90's, early 2000's games. Earlier than that and you have to emulate in both cases.
A lot of people don't appreciate giving all their information to Microsoft, or having updates forced down their throat at the most inopportune times, some of which actually manage to break some of the software that they use on a daily basis.
But I guess it's easy to dismiss these objective problems just because your particular use case isn't affected that much.
Anyway I'm not here to argue or troll or flame people for their choice of OS. You do you.
+EDIT: Interesting graph, although I have a very hard time believing that.
On September 23 2017 02:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Windows 10 only? didn't MS learn their lesson from Halo Wars 2?
Ensemble did such a nice job on Halo Wars 1 and the Age of Empires franchise its a cryin' shame MS shut them down only to resurrect these IPs via the Rent-A-Studio method.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... -______-
Yeah man this fucking sucks.
I'm one of those weirdos who spent more time playing and mapping for AoE1 than 2 but I'm not installing that garbage just to be able to play the new version. I hope it's good and I hope the people who use Win10 enjoy it though.
If you have Windows 10, it's already installed, you don't have a choice on that matter. If you don't have Windows 10, the game is not supported for your OS (Win 7&8 are not supported).
Sorry I don't see how this contradicts anything I said. I'm well aware of what you're saying.
I thought you meant the Games for Windows Live or whatever it was called beforehand, so I pointed out it was preinstalled. My bad, didn't realize you were talking about Win10.
To that end, rather than a final release of Age of Empires: Definitive Edition on October 19, we will instead be inviting thousands more players from the community into our closed beta between now and launch to allow for more in-depth testing across single player campaign, multiplayer balance, fine-tuning the lobby, etc.
We don’t have a final release date to share quite yet, but are targeting early 2018. In the meantime, we will be actively engaging with everyone participating in the closed beta to gather additional feedback, set up multiplayer sessions, and ensure that the Age of Empires: Definitive Edition that we are delivering is the Definitive Edition that you want.
On October 19 2017 01:11 Toolshed wrote: The release got delayed and a lot of people are upset that a big company like Microsoft waited for that long to announce the delay.
To that end, rather than a final release of Age of Empires: Definitive Edition on October 19, we will instead be inviting thousands more players from the community into our closed beta between now and launch to allow for more in-depth testing across single player campaign, multiplayer balance, fine-tuning the lobby, etc.
We don’t have a final release date to share quite yet, but are targeting early 2018. In the meantime, we will be actively engaging with everyone participating in the closed beta to gather additional feedback, set up multiplayer sessions, and ensure that the Age of Empires: Definitive Edition that we are delivering is the Definitive Edition that you want.
No DE before 2018 it seems ... :-/
Good. Take as long as it takes, don't rush out a subpar and poorly tested disappointment like 99% of the AAA industry today.
That said I'm very curious how many people will participate in the beta program given the very limited reach of the game's platform.
On October 19 2017 08:06 ProMeTheus112 wrote: make it work on windows 7 and I play, windows 10 no play^^ lol gg too bad
Pretty much.
It would be a shame though if they ended up sacrificing the franchise for a lost cause like UWP exclusivity. Then again, it's not like we've had a franchise entry in the last decade, and the most recent one was... ahem.
Ok, hi. I lurk TL since I have nothing to say to you or share. I've been watching lots of AoE II and once you become familiar with names like Daut, Viper and Tatoh it was very refreshing to see them playing a qualifier for AoE DE. Now I never had the urge to play AoE II, since already as a child I found that the buildings take up too much space. AoE DE on the otherhand looks very pretty to me.
There is this guy, Winstons Waffles, he has cast an AoE DE game recently:
I think the casting is adequate, that match however, that match that was played, deserves more views. I never bought into AoE DE because of the Microsoft Store exclusivity, I am going to change that now, I am weak. I feel anyone that likes strategy games should be able to enjoy that match. That Winstons Waffles guy seems a little too humble, so yeah, I want to urge you to check out that match.
"We believe you should have choice in where you buy your PC games" - Microsoft after developing multiple identity disorder overnight. The consumers win though, so good news anyways.
@naughtDE was an enjoyable game. The heavy rush emphasis is a bit meh, hope that stabilizes over time.
Hey, so this game is released now, so I am bumping this thread. I've heard from proplayers and casters of the competitive scene that this definitive edition improves upon the HD-edition in almost every way. Not to mention the absolutely GORGEOUS new models. + Show Spoiler +
Of course multiplayer will probably be played to the best visibility options and least clutter, but you can play through all the campaigns in the single-player portion of the game with these beautiful graphics.
I bought it for sheer nostalgia and so far it's been an amazing playthrough. I dunno if this game is worth your money if you already bought the previous HD remake, but if you didn't, do treat yourself and buy this definitive edition of your childhood nostalgia train. IMO, well worth the 20 USD.
Ive considered getting it but i dont really want to support this remake frenzy. Ive already got the HD version and they kept pumping out DLCs for that for tens of € and now there's a new version yet again that obsoletes all of those. This wouldve been nice as free upgrade, but spending yet another 20€...a hard sell.
On November 20 2019 07:44 Warri wrote: Ive considered getting it but i dont really want to support this remake frenzy. Ive already got the HD version and they kept pumping out DLCs for that for tens of € and now there's a new version yet again that obsoletes all of those. This wouldve been nice as free upgrade, but spending yet another 20€...a hard sell.
As was previously said. If you don't have the HD edition of AoE 2 with DLCs, get it. Then there will be ~18 new campaigns you never played before.
I was playing this DE, overall really nice I think. It has matchmaking with simple solid ELO, a nice variety of maps. Mods can be installed, can customize lots of things, graphics are really good. Imo it's very nice in team games I especially enjoyed 2vs2. I recommend.
oh wait I was talking about AoE2 DE, haven't actually tried AoE1 DE yet yea ended up switching to unwanted w10 cause of hardware incompatibility with w7^^
On June 09 2020 13:39 Azzur wrote: I've recently started watching AoE II and it's been great!
Can anyone recommend a community website for AoE? I've tried looking around but with no success so far.
I think aoezone.net is what you looking for, it's the biggest AoE community page I think. It's forum structure is kinda confusing however. There is also aoe2 reddit
I picked up the DE in december and didn't stop playing till now. I played AoE2 as a kid but I never knew how good of a game it really is. So many strategies that you can play, but it's also quite demanding and there is alot to learn when you start. Also I think teamgames are way more fun than in SC2 or WC3. It has also grown alot on twitch and the community there is great and the streamers are all fun to watch.
I can only recommend buying the DE version. If you already have HD from 2013 it's only ~15€ and it is a giant improvement (HD was kind of a ripoff compared to this). You get all the DLCs from the HD Version + a new DLC that came out with DE. The graphics are MUCH better, it's not like the typical HD remakes where they just optimize the old graphics for new screen resolution. They actually improved all the models a ton, while still maintaing the original look. There is also much less lag when playing online, you have a matchmaking ELO system, all the comfort features you could ask for in a modern rts. It's simply perfect.
I switched from Starcraft to AoE DE mainly because watching Starcraft became really stale lately. AoE has way more appeal in terms of strategy and tactics.
AoE or AoE2? Because while I love AoE for nostalgia reasons, AoE2 is imo a much greater competitive game. Hell playing AoE is at times really painful due to the pathing.
I Could just quote a few posts, but it would be better for you just to read it whole.
If you're wondering if the meta has changed since then, the short answer is "no". There have been some balance changes to certain civs yes, but the overall big picture stays the same.
You advance to feudal on around 21/22 pop (including the free scout) and then from there, you choose to either: 1) do a fast castle age to
a) boom to 3 (or 4, but it's extremely greedy) Town Centres
b) actually build a castle and produce your unique civilization unit
c) do a knight rush
2) start 2-archery range archers production in feudal 3) do a scout rush (5-6 units) in feudal
Obviously it's much more nuanced than that, but that's the basic idea in a nutshell.
Here is a PDF with good build orders that can help you establish fundamentals: https://ufile.io/m2a6prw5
I suggest picking one (like 23 pop archers) and then doing 2 things: 1) downloading in-game through the mods menu "Interactive Build Order Guide" and enabling it in "game mode" as a custom scenario in a standard game 2) actually trying to execute the said build order vs an AI opponent.
edit: It also has these ingame challenges like sc2 used to have back in the day. Like how to max out, what is a good opening build order etc, with introduction videos from pro's explaining why to do what in which way. You find it in AoE 2 DE start menu somewhere if you look around.
Thanks very much guys, apparently my PC can’t run it yet but looking to upgrade! Seems weirdly high system reqs for an isometric sprite-based RPG
We did a for fun AoE tournament recently and was quite fascinating to see the game knowledge of the AoE guys intersecting with the superior mechanics of the SC veterans, made me want to give it a proper go!
On August 05 2020 23:48 Wombat_NI wrote: Thanks very much guys, apparently my PC can’t run it yet but looking to upgrade! Seems weirdly high system reqs for an isometric sprite-based RPG
We did a for fun AoE tournament recently and was quite fascinating to see the game knowledge of the AoE guys intersecting with the superior mechanics of the SC veterans, made me want to give it a proper go!
Minimum: Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows 10 64bit Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon 64x2 5600+ Memory: 4 GB RAM Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 420 or ATI™ Radeon™ HD 6850 or Intel® HD Graphics 4000 or better with 2 GB VRAM DirectX: Version 11 Network: Broadband Internet connection Storage: 30 GB available space
So I guess some of the GPU shaders are missing on a few built in GPU?
The Open Quals are over, the main tournament starts on the Thrusday, 20th of August and the grand finals will be on Sunday, 23rd of August
Streaming times: Day 1: Thursday 20th - Starting at 13gmt Day 2: Friday 21st - Starting at 13gmt Day 3: Saturday 22nd - Starting at 13gmt Day 4: Sunday 23rd - Starting at 13gmt
If you ever wanted to see how competitive AoE 2 is played or just want to check out the game that will be your chance.
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