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On July 20 2017 07:35 Epoxide wrote: why bother seeding a tournament xdddddddddddddddddd Not the tournament organizers fault that SK lost to BIG  | ||
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At least BIG got a nice matchup. At first legends spot was enough but i started to believe in their chances at this tournament. Hopefully they are as good as on inferno on other maps. | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:35 Epoxide wrote: why bother seeding a tournament xdddddddddddddddddd The group stage is seeding aswell. The 3-0 teams were always going to be drawn against the 3-2's first and then theres a guarantee that two 2 3-1 teams play each other. It couldve been SK North or SK Astralis either way 5 Danes get sad on Sat xD | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:36 Luolis wrote: Not the tournament organizers fault that SK lost to BIG On July 20 2017 07:37 Rebs wrote: The group stage is seeding. The 3-0 teams were always going to be drawn against the 3-2's first and then theres a guarantee that two 2 3-1 teams play each other. It couldve been SK North or SK Astralis either way 5 Danes get sad on Sat xD and did they seed the group stage? No. | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:39 Epoxide wrote: and did they seed the group stage? No. They played legends vs challengers first round ? Kinda hard to seed when there is no real official ranking system. No, HLTV.org doesn count. | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:39 Rebs wrote: They played legends vs challengers first round ? Yeah from a half year old result and only for the first round | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:39 Epoxide wrote: and did they seed the group stage? No. So SK lost to BIG because of group stage seeding? | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:41 Epoxide wrote: Yeah from a half year old result and only for the first round Not all teams get to play all tournaments for various reasons (like Gambit) so saying "fuck those irrelevant results" lets go on current form based on tournaments that not all teams get to play and that we dont have an official consensus based ranking system assigned for. (again HLTV.org doesnt count) If you can think of a fairer way to start the rounds feel free to suggest it. As for the second and succeeding rounds. Doesnt matter how much or how "well" they wouldve seeded it. If favourites or legends teams lose you will get stacked games in the proceeding rounds. And the rounds will get progressively more stacked as they go on. Thats ofcourse a given. Forcing matches based on some arbitrary idea of seeding in a swiss system just means you are fixing them which is frankly just wrong. On July 20 2017 07:43 Luolis wrote: So SK lost to BIG because of group stage seeding? I heard Faze went 0-3 because of bad group stage seeding also. edit: I mentioned something about perks but thats silly now that i think about it. THe perk is you get autoqualified. Thats good enough | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:43 Luolis wrote: So SK lost to BIG because of group stage seeding? No | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:43 Rebs wrote: Not all teams get to play all tournaments for various reasons (like Gambit) so saying "fuck those irrelevant results" lets go on current form based on tournaments that not all teams get to play and that we dont have an official consensus based ranking system assigned for. (again HLTV.org doesnt count) If you can think of a fairer way to start the rounds feel free to suggest it. As for the second and succeeding rounds. Doesnt matter how much or how "well" they wouldve seeded it. If favourites or legends teams lose you will get stacked games in the proceeding rounds. And the rounds will get progressively more stacked as they go on. Thats ofcourse a given. Forcing matches based on some arbitrary idea of seeding in a swiss system just means you are fixing them which is frankly just wrong. I heard Faze went 0-3 because of bad group stage seeding also. edit: I mentioned something about perks but thats silly now that i think about it. THe perk is you get autoqualified. Thats good enough Round 2: SK vs Astralis, both are legend teams. BIG vs C9, both are challenger teams. You can still use that dumb seeding for future rounds. | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:50 Mensol wrote: BIG vs VP in semis and BIG vs astralis in finals is needed for csgasm. BIG vs SK or BIG vs Gambit ty. No astralis in my finals thanks) | ||
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On July 20 2017 07:49 Epoxide wrote: Round 2: SK vs Astralis, both are legend teams. BIG vs C9, both are challenger teams. You can still use that dumb seeding for future rounds. yeah and both beat legends teams. If the legends teams would have won them you would still get a stacked round 2. North vs Faze.. orrrr a SK vs North, or a Faze vs Astralis. Manipulating the seeding because favorites lost is not only dumb. Its fundamentally wrong & unfair. My reward for beating a legends team is... Yep another legends team. Thanks menggggggg | ||
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On July 20 2017 08:03 Luolis wrote: Something something GSL format That has its own issues. That will leave people complaining for ages on end. Bottom line is this system tests your skills against a range of styles and opponents so the most complete teams atleast in theory should go through on average. There shouldnt be any "easy" games. In reality there can be but maybe with the exception of Vega (and lol Faze), no team was consistently out of their depth. | ||
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