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letsye made a form to share info - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/523467-destiny-2-pc-xbox-ps4?page=9#165

eieio also made a PC clan, PM him here or add him in-game: eieio#11967

Clan: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/Index?groupId=2871144
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
December 12 2018 17:05 GMT
#1161
Here is a good criticism of Destiny2's levelling system. i'm not sure what the solution is though.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-12 17:31:03
December 12 2018 17:30 GMT
#1162
The solution is the same as every other game with the problem of RNG loot.
Provide alternatives that give targeted loot.

Let the player spend 100 shards of insert cool name to buy a 'Powerful Cloak' instead of a Powerful Engram that can be anything.

You don't need to invent the wheel here. Its been done hundreds of times already.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-12 22:07:37
December 12 2018 21:25 GMT
#1163
On December 13 2018 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
The solution is the same as every other game with the problem of RNG loot.
Provide alternatives that give targeted loot.

Ada does that now.
On December 13 2018 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
The solution is the same as every other game with the problem of RNG loot.

I like levelling in Borderlands better than Destiny. However, Borderlands and Destiny can't be lumped in together because a gun or shield in Borderlands is not assigned a power level.

i think Bungie wants you to have the feeling you "crafted" and/or painstakingly "built" the guns and armour you use. Outright buying the item makes that feeling go away.

The way things are structured in D2 I do not think the problem is as easy to solve as you indicate. The proposals made by the guy in the video are worth a shot.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
December 13 2018 10:13 GMT
#1164
On December 13 2018 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
The solution is the same as every other game with the problem of RNG loot.
Provide alternatives that give targeted loot.

Let the player spend 100 shards of insert cool name to buy a 'Powerful Cloak' instead of a Powerful Engram that can be anything.

You don't need to invent the wheel here. Its been done hundreds of times already.


Aren't the pinnacle weapons exactly that? Honest question, I have no idea.
Which brings me to my next question: Do the pinnacle weapons have a fixed power or is it dynamic to my own power?

I have just finished the Forsaken campaign and reached 500 power.
I assume next I fix the talismans thing for the dreamy city and do the ace of spades quest but other than that I am completely overloaded with things to do and no idea where to start. ^^'
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 13 2018 12:30 GMT
#1165
Pinnacle weapons drop at least +2 to your current power so they stay as powerful drops.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-13 17:59:40
December 13 2018 16:47 GMT
#1166
I didn't understand what an "Augmented Weapon" was until i saw this video. You get an extra perk with a choice between 2 perks.
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 13 2018 19:13 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2018 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
The solution is the same as every other game with the problem of RNG loot.
Provide alternatives that give targeted loot.

Let the player spend 100 shards of insert cool name to buy a 'Powerful Cloak' instead of a Powerful Engram that can be anything.

You don't need to invent the wheel here. Its been done hundreds of times already.


Aren't the pinnacle weapons exactly that? Honest question, I have no idea.
Which brings me to my next question: Do the pinnacle weapons have a fixed power or is it dynamic to my own power?

I have just finished the Forsaken campaign and reached 500 power.
I assume next I fix the talismans thing for the dreamy city and do the ace of spades quest but other than that I am completely overloaded with things to do and no idea where to start. ^^'

the Ace of Spades is a solid weapon in both PvE and PvP. It is a high quality general usage weapon. I'm not up on the cutting edge meta so it might not be the very best weapon for certain specific activities.

do whatever you feel like doing.

If getting to 600 power as fast as you can is important :
Dreaming City "powerful gear" is more power levels above your current level than other "powerful gear" activities. That said, many of those activities are not viable until you are well above 500 power.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2018 19:59 GMT
#1167
If you're 500, you should indeed aim to unlock the Dreaming City. You should then focus on doing Dreaming City activities until you can do the raid (560+ generally speaking), if you want to do it. If you don't want to do the raid, the levelling process will be much slower but you can eventually get to 600 just doing weekly milestones and Dreaming City stuff. I personally liked playing Gambit quite a bit, and I focused on doing Heroic Strikes as well. Once you are around 540, you can get fireteams together and do the Nightfall Strike, which is some of the better content in the game.

Once you get to 580+, you can do The Shattered Throne when it is available, which is on a three-week cycle. The next week available is next week, which is likely quite unrealistic if you're 500 right now. Like the raid, this is an activity that requires coordination, so make sure to get a fireteam of people together that want to do it with you.

Once you get to 600+, you can then start on Black Armory content, if you have the Season Pass. So far, I think the content is good, and I like the activities they have introduced. The forges are fun and quick, the Scourge of the Past raid is interesting mechanically and relatively easy compared to Last Wish, and the gameplay loop has been designed in a way that allows me to get rewards for playing efficiently, something that I find engaging personally.
Writer@WriterYamato
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 13 2018 20:53 GMT
#1168
Leveling to 600 is pretty much painless due to increased prime engram drops. It's basically a two week grind instead of a month long slog.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-15 14:56:04
December 15 2018 14:48 GMT
#1169
IGN gave the Black Armory DLC a 5.5/10 rating.
They reserve the right to change that rating if things improve.

Considering its $10 i give it an 8/10. It would be an 8.5/10 if day 1 players didn't have to play non-Black Armory activities to get up to 610 power.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
December 18 2018 18:16 GMT
#1170
Destiny 2 Scheduled Maintenance is complete.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/47546


Big important bug fixed

"Fixed an issue where weapon frames would be removed from inventory in error when completing alternate forges."
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
December 23 2018 17:10 GMT
#1171
According to Charlemagne .. the best PvE weapons this week are

[image loading]
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 23 2018 18:12 GMT
#1172
Still working on Breakneck.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
December 23 2018 18:13 GMT
#1173
Is this top as in most used? How did riskrunner make it onto the list? :o
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-23 18:34:06
December 23 2018 18:26 GMT
#1174
i'm not sure how this list is compiled. these are good questions. i'll figure it out and report back.

Charlemagne is a Discord server.
https://warmind.io/

To get this list i typed in

!pve meta
into the "sub channel" called #Meet-Charlemagne

On December 24 2018 03:12 digmouse wrote:
Still working on Breakneck.

how i use Breakneck is...

i have the MOD that does extra damage to "minor enemies". My Breakneck has RAMPAGE and ONSLAUGHT on it. My Breakneck is masterwork-ed.

So I leave the big tough enemies to my team mates a lot of the time. I mow down small minor enemies in big numbers pretty fast, as a result, i'm pumping out orbs of light like crazy.

I'm able to contribute to fireteams of players that are quite a bit better than me.

its a lot of fun.

any suggestions?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
December 23 2018 20:11 GMT
#1175
On December 24 2018 03:13 Fencar wrote:
Is this top as in most used? How did riskrunner make it onto the list? :o

the "!pve meta" command returns the most popular weapons in PvE activities.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 23 2018 20:17 GMT
#1176
On December 24 2018 03:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2018 03:12 digmouse wrote:
Still working on Breakneck.

how i use Breakneck is...

i have the MOD that does extra damage to "minor enemies". My Breakneck has RAMPAGE and ONSLAUGHT on it. My Breakneck is masterwork-ed.

So I leave the big tough enemies to my team mates a lot of the time. I mow down small minor enemies in big numbers pretty fast, as a result, i'm pumping out orbs of light like crazy.

I'm able to contribute to fireteams of players that are quite a bit better than me.

its a lot of fun.

any suggestions?

Breakneck is a pinnacle weapon so everyone's comes with rampage and onslaught and is fully masterworked. For it the best mods are Rampage spec which increases rampage duration from 3.5 seconds to 4.5 seconds, followed by Minor Spec or Major Spec. Don't use Backup Mag on it, it only boosts magazine size to 45 from 40.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-01 17:23:54
January 01 2019 17:10 GMT
#1177
The latest "Oracle Offering" showed an interesting cinematic.

WARNING: this is spoiler so i put it in spoiler tags. Here is the cinematic itself.
+ Show Spoiler +


IGN's Fireteam Chat guys revealed a bunch of lore details behind what occurred during the Oracle Offering cinematic.
WARNING: this is spoiler so i put it in spoiler tags.
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
So if Uldron is a guardian he has no memory that Mara Sov is his sister and no memory of killing Cayde6?


This sets up all kinds of new possibilities.

I think someone can only suspend their disbelief from this point forward if they play the game on at least a casual level. Outsiders looking in on this kind of stuff will probably react the way the average non-fan reacts to stuff like Bizarro-Superman.

+ Show Spoiler +
The average non-player is going to say "well in this universe death does not mean much.. They can sell you a $40 expansion pass and then bring back everyone from the dead and then kill them off again in the $60 sequel."
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
January 02 2019 14:43 GMT
#1178
On January 02 2019 02:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The latest "Oracle Offering" showed an interesting cinematic.

WARNING: this is spoiler so i put it in spoiler tags. Here is the cinematic itself.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO7hXzIwTrY


IGN's Fireteam Chat guys revealed a bunch of lore details behind what occurred during the Oracle Offering cinematic.
WARNING: this is spoiler so i put it in spoiler tags.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUGLzW3osiA#t=54s

+ Show Spoiler +
So if Uldron is a guardian he has no memory that Mara Sov is his sister and no memory of killing Cayde6?


This sets up all kinds of new possibilities.

I think someone can only suspend their disbelief from this point forward if they play the game on at least a casual level. Outsiders looking in on this kind of stuff will probably react the way the average non-fan reacts to stuff like Bizarro-Superman.

+ Show Spoiler +
The average non-player is going to say "well in this universe death does not mean much.. They can sell you a $40 expansion pass and then bring back everyone from the dead and then kill them off again in the $60 sequel."


Ye I don't like it either
Guess with the next price tag they bring Cayde back.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-02 16:02:37
January 02 2019 15:53 GMT
#1179
the one thing that makes this plot twist forgiveable is this...
+ Show Spoiler +

you never saw Uldron get executed so they intentionally planeted doubt in our minds right from the start.
They better not resurrect Cayde6 though and they better be careful who else they bring back to life.
i prefer no one gets brought back from the dead after being killed off.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-02 22:36:14
January 02 2019 22:35 GMT
#1180
On January 03 2019 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the one thing that makes this plot twist forgiveable is this...
+ Show Spoiler +

you never saw Uldron get executed so they intentionally planeted doubt in our minds right from the start.
They better not resurrect Cayde6 though and they better be careful who else they bring back to life.
i prefer no one gets brought back from the dead after being killed off.


I thought about that,too. But come on

+ Show Spoiler +

under a blanket, on some sort of altar. And even if, he would have been imprisoned if alive.


This reminds me of the show "Lost".... it got worse fast
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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