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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-30 11:56:17
May 30 2018 11:56 GMT
#2041
Sleep deprivation powered by lots of caffeine and trying to walk people off the ledge on reddit.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46235 Posts
May 30 2018 12:21 GMT
#2042
It happens to the best of us!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 30 2018 12:46 GMT
#2043
i think people are kidding themselves if gen 8 doesn't take some notes from these games.

the lets go games will sell piles more than any core game has the chance to
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-30 13:26:43
May 30 2018 13:26 GMT
#2044
Honestly, outside of how it treats wild battles, I don't see this being very objectionable in the first place outside of "ugh, Kanto again?"
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-30 13:38:43
May 30 2018 13:37 GMT
#2045
Not having access to random wild battles changes various other aspects of the game, like how do i level pokémon, is it gonna be some shitty pokémon go styled mechanic? Do i have to repeatedly catch the same pokémon over and over to progress?

I'm just happy we're getting an actual core game next year, because this doesn't look like it'll really interest me at all. I wasn't interested in pokémon go so that part of this game is also entirely lost on me.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-30 13:46:09
May 30 2018 13:43 GMT
#2046
On May 30 2018 22:37 Unleashing wrote:
Not having access to random wild battles changes various other aspects of the game, like how do i level pokémon, is it gonna be some shitty pokémon go styled mechanic? Do i have to repeatedly catch the same pokémon over and over to progress?

I'm just happy we're getting an actual core game next year, because this doesn't look like it'll really interest me at all. I wasn't interested in pokémon go so that part of this game is also entirely lost on me.


Repeatable trainer battles to level pokemon could be way more interesting than grinding out singleton fights. The random encounters were always the worst part of the game anyways.

I get the concern but at the same time if it's a Pokemon game that removes some of the grind, but keeps in the interesting parts of building a team of pokemon and battling then I think it could be a lot of fun to play.

Not that I'm that happy about the capture mechanic, it's not a particularly interesting replacement.

Give me Pokemon Lets Snap or something :D.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 30 2018 13:46 GMT
#2047
I'm fine with reducing grind, but the new capture mechanic looks so absolutely unfun and unsatisfying that i'd rather take the grind with the old capture mechanic than removed grind with the new

And again, it may very well be that it's still a grind, just that now the grind is repeatedly catching the same pokémon over and over which is even less fun
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 30 2018 13:46 GMT
#2048
Given the way XP has been since gen6, I've just been loading up on repels unless there way something I knew I wanted to catch anyway.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 30 2018 13:49 GMT
#2049
On May 30 2018 22:46 Unleashing wrote:
I'm fine with reducing grind, but the new capture mechanic looks so absolutely unfun and unsatisfying that i'd rather take the grind with the old capture mechanic than removed grind with the new

And again, it may very well be that it's still a grind, just that now the grind is repeatedly catching the same pokémon over and over which is even less fun


Yeah, no argument there really. If the level up mechanic is the same as PoGo's the game will be pretty terrible.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 30 2018 14:17 GMT
#2050
nintendo stocks up 4%

To be honest, this is such a top tier move by Nintendo by announcing a new Main pokemon game for 2019

This way you can lure Go fans to get a Switch (i'm guessing, A TONS OF) and keep playing Pokemon, once they do that, they will flood over the new Pokemon game in 2019.

as annoying as it is (i don't care about Go) it's brilliant
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 30 2018 21:38 GMT
#2051
It is brilliant on so many levels. Announcing a main core game for 2019 was key. It's telling hardcore fans "Hey, we haven't forgotten about you! Please don't be mad, we're working on the game that you want!" while getting people who have quit Pokemon years ago to get excited about Pokemon again. There are plenty of PoGo players that don't have Switches and Nintendo wants to go after their sweet money. Try to get PoGo players to switch over while keeping people like me excited for what's on the horizon.

Personally, I think it looks good. I was underwhelmed as I was pumped for Gen 8, but I don't have any issue with Let's Go. Nintendo probably felt that they needed a big Pokemon release in 2018 to keep their sales momentum up, and Game Freak probably didn't have enough time to make Gen 8 so they made a game that's similar but with a smaller scope. I'd rather get tortured for another year waiting for a main Pokemon game than play a rushed gen 8 game that's missing key features.

Random thoughts:
- Wild encounters - Don't mind this. If it's good, great. If it's not, then whatever. The only difference it makes is that I don't have to buy 200 Max Repels and mash A every time it runs out. Only issue I have is how Nuzlockes are gonna work if I can see every single encounter and there's zero randomness to it. Do I just close my eyes and go?

- Capture mechanic - I've never played PoGo, but hopefully it's better than mashing A, throwing 8730 Dusk Balls at Zapdos and hope one of them works

- Ride Pager - Hope it makes more sense than Gen 7. I hated the fact that you don't ride your own pokemon. Hey, let me borrow this random dude's Tauros despite the fact that I have 800 pokemon in my PC that could do the job

- Pokemon following you - YES! It blows my mind that this feature isn't in every single Pokemon game. How many people have HGSS as their fav pokemon adventure solely because your pokemon follow you around? Eevee chilling on my head is so cute. If they remove this feature for Gen 8, I'll be so disappointed

- Dress up Eevee. By far the best feature of the game
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 30 2018 22:04 GMT
#2052
The way capturing works in go is that the white circle is the hitbox for the pokemon. As long as you hold on the screen, you "hold" your pokeball and a colored ring concentric to the white circle shrinks and then resets. The color it is indicates how difficult it is to catch, red/orange/yellow/green from hardest to easiest, if you throw the ball and get it inside the colored ring, you get a bonus on your catch rate depending on if the colored ring has shrunk past certain thresholds. There's also the ability to spin the ball and throw a curveball instead of a straight shot for increased capture rate(iirc, might just be an xp thing) for increased difficulty in actually making the throw.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 30 2018 22:45 GMT
#2053
I'm not excited for Let's Go either. The Switch is too new so I didn't expect a gen 8 game to release this year. Nintendo did what they had to do because some fans have unrealistic expectations. They had to do something to calm the people who would complain about why "they were doing Let's Go this year instead of hurrying up gen 8."

Some people still haven't realized that making a videogame isn't the same as adding more production shifts to an assembly line or throwing more workers at a construction project.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-31 01:20:52
May 31 2018 01:18 GMT
#2054
On May 30 2018 23:17 Faruko wrote:
nintendo stocks up 4%

To be honest, this is such a top tier move by Nintendo by announcing a new Main pokemon game for 2019

This way you can lure Go fans to get a Switch (i'm guessing, A TONS OF) and keep playing Pokemon, once they do that, they will flood over the new Pokemon game in 2019.

as annoying as it is (i don't care about Go) it's brilliant

i've seen this parrotted about a lot. its just not going to happen.

these games will sell fantastically and probably set franchise records. but the reality is that it won't translate into main series sales figures because main series is beyond stale and has been for >10 years

people are always citing the lots of very angry hardcore fans of the games, but where are they and how many?

twitch viewership for last year world championships was 46k. sun and moon sold 16 million copies.

whatever community might still exist is no place even close to enough size to influence the direction of the franchise and rightfully shouldn't have any control over it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 31 2018 01:25 GMT
#2055
On May 31 2018 10:18 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 23:17 Faruko wrote:
nintendo stocks up 4%

To be honest, this is such a top tier move by Nintendo by announcing a new Main pokemon game for 2019

This way you can lure Go fans to get a Switch (i'm guessing, A TONS OF) and keep playing Pokemon, once they do that, they will flood over the new Pokemon game in 2019.

as annoying as it is (i don't care about Go) it's brilliant

i've seen this parrotted about a lot. its just not going to happen.

these games will sell fantastically and probably set franchise records. but the reality is that it won't translate into main series sales figures because main series is beyond stale and has been for >10 years

people are always citing the lots of very angry hardcore fans of the games, but where are they and how many?

twitch viewership for last year world championships was 46k. sun and moon sold 16 million copies.

whatever community might still exist is no place even close to enough size to influence the direction of the franchise and rightfully shouldn't have any control over it.

How long was Zelda stale for when they tried to experiential with things in Skyward Sword and then took what worked and put it in Breath of the Wild?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-31 01:30:00
May 31 2018 01:29 GMT
#2056
On May 31 2018 10:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2018 10:18 Frolossus wrote:
On May 30 2018 23:17 Faruko wrote:
nintendo stocks up 4%

To be honest, this is such a top tier move by Nintendo by announcing a new Main pokemon game for 2019

This way you can lure Go fans to get a Switch (i'm guessing, A TONS OF) and keep playing Pokemon, once they do that, they will flood over the new Pokemon game in 2019.

as annoying as it is (i don't care about Go) it's brilliant

i've seen this parrotted about a lot. its just not going to happen.

these games will sell fantastically and probably set franchise records. but the reality is that it won't translate into main series sales figures because main series is beyond stale and has been for >10 years

people are always citing the lots of very angry hardcore fans of the games, but where are they and how many?

twitch viewership for last year world championships was 46k. sun and moon sold 16 million copies.

whatever community might still exist is no place even close to enough size to influence the direction of the franchise and rightfully shouldn't have any control over it.

How long was Zelda stale for when they tried to experiential with things in Skyward Sword and then took what worked and put it in Breath of the Wild?

exactly. it's much more likely that the lets go games are going to dictate the future design direction of the mainline games, through their inevitable success, than being treated like training wheels to convince people to play the stale gameplay main series as is
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 31 2018 01:36 GMT
#2057
I dunno, I kind of agree with Arlo about them being a good half step to get Goers into the series proper.

Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-31 02:25:34
May 31 2018 02:25 GMT
#2058


Well, "will not be influenced by Pokemon Go"
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 01 2018 17:16 GMT
#2059
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46235 Posts
June 01 2018 23:13 GMT
#2060
On June 02 2018 02:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1002463103559307264


Yeah, although it's not yet announced which game modes will be available yet.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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