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Is anyone really good at this game ?
I never really played this game before, I am wondering how much time does it takes for you guys to get for exemple Enigma , Hoto , Hoz etc... for 12 k pal I think ?
My friend had this pal and it was very cool , but I can't figure it out how can I get all the runes and all the stuff. I want to get all the stuff by myself.Without any hacks of gifs from a gosu :D
How can ppl be gosu at this game ?
I need expert tips
If you want to help me I would really appreciate
And maybe I could help you in something else in exange ? I don't know =/
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just waste loads of time on it T_T
that or ebay
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d2 requires more time than skill
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as long as the game hasn't changed much from when I played it goes like this.
Your first character has to be an mfer (magicfind) or you have to get some free crap from someone.
Get a rush through normal difficulty and do tristram runs and tomb runs until 20. Do cows until 24 and then the ancients to get to 25. From here do mass baal runs till like 40.
Next get a rush through nightmare and do baal runs till 60.
Get another rush through hell and do baal runz till like 75.
To mf go to hell mephisto and kill him. Leave game and repeat like 1 million times. Trade away rare stuff for other crap that you need.
To get runes do countess runs in hell. She drops a few runes (usually crappy ones) every time you kill her. She sometimes drops some really rare ones but you are going to have to do many many runs.
Also you can be an uber killer or whatever those things are. They drop that hellfire charm. NOt to familiar with this because I quit a while before that patch came out.
You are going to have to just clock in time to get what you need.
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Build a blizz sorc.
max skills in this order:
blizz, mastery, ice blast, spike.
to level,
1-5 quest
6-15 trist runs
15-20 tombs
20-24 cows
24-25 ancients quest
25-40 norm baals
40-75 nm baals
75-83ish hell baals
then just get some basic mf gear (skulders, some magic/rare mf boots/ammy/rings, a decent orb, spirit shield YES IT IS WORTH THE 156 STR, possibly some nagels for rings, goldwrap or tals belt, and some chancies. You should find a gheeds charm pretty quick.) that should get you through until you can find some good stuff. Just get a prayer merc (act two, I forget which one, there is a guide at diabloii.net [I think its in the zon forum] that should tell you the mercs.) get him some nice armor with ED, shaftstop is great for this, then a helm with leech (vamp gaze, although it is a bit pricey, I've found that Crown of Thieves works pretty well), then throw insight (ral tir tal sol) in an elite POLEARM NOT SPEAR. that would get you a decent tank to mess around with and good for running ancient tunnels in act 2. He'll also get you to durance three but he won't be able to tank meph. Just learn to moat trick (tele to meph, run to stairs on left facing south, then tele across to the second burning urn and blizz). Since the runes prices have dropped so much you _SHOULD_ be able to get some nice stuff after not too long.
If you have any questions fire away or pm me.
EDIT: this is the merc guide
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=306061
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You don't need a merc to go to dura lvl 3. When I use my sorc I just get fast caster rate and teleport away while squandering down mana pots xD
Use the meph across the river trick, he'll go down in no time. Teleport in and claim your prizes :D
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I didn't keep my merc when I had nub gear either. It was jut helpful to have a distraction for the enemies while teleing and it was also nice to not have to worry about mana goin down there.
When you're starting out you need to break the 63 fcr mark and have a decent about of FHR (I forget the bp). its cheaper to pot, it was just preference to have him every once in a while for me.
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On March 23 2007 21:51 PTC-Hurricane wrote:Build a blizz sorc. max skills in this order:
blizz, mastery, ice blast, spike.to level, 1-5 quest 6-15 trist runs 15-20 tombs 20-24 cows 24-25 ancients quest 25-40 norm baals 40-75 nm baals 75-83ish hell baals then just get some basic mf gear (skulders, some magic/rare mf boots/ammy/rings, a decent orb, spirit shield YES IT IS WORTH THE 156 STR, possibly some nagels for rings, goldwrap or tals belt, and some chancies. You should find a gheeds charm pretty quick.) that should get you through until you can find some good stuff. Just get a prayer merc (act two, I forget which one, there is a guide at diabloii.net [I think its in the zon forum] that should tell you the mercs.) get him some nice armor with ED, shaftstop is great for this, then a helm with leech (vamp gaze, although it is a bit pricey, I've found that Crown of Thieves works pretty well), then throw insight (ral tir tal sol) in an elite POLEARM NOT SPEAR. that would get you a decent tank to mess around with and good for running ancient tunnels in act 2. He'll also get you to durance three but he won't be able to tank meph. Just learn to moat trick (tele to meph, run to stairs on left facing south, then tele across to the second burning urn and blizz). Since the runes prices have dropped so much you _SHOULD_ be able to get some nice stuff after not too long. If you have any questions fire away or pm me. EDIT: this is the merc guide http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=306061
Actually, alot of pros suggest you max out synergies first. That allows you to use less mana per cast while still getting higher damage from synergies. Doesn't really matter though.
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i never liked blizz sorcs...i always preferred orbers, and yes i have made tons of blizz/orb sorcs when i use to play...
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On March 23 2007 22:12 TheosEx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2007 21:51 PTC-Hurricane wrote:Build a blizz sorc. max skills in this order:
blizz, mastery, ice blast, spike.to level, 1-5 quest 6-15 trist runs 15-20 tombs 20-24 cows 24-25 ancients quest 25-40 norm baals 40-75 nm baals 75-83ish hell baals then just get some basic mf gear (skulders, some magic/rare mf boots/ammy/rings, a decent orb, spirit shield YES IT IS WORTH THE 156 STR, possibly some nagels for rings, goldwrap or tals belt, and some chancies. You should find a gheeds charm pretty quick.) that should get you through until you can find some good stuff. Just get a prayer merc (act two, I forget which one, there is a guide at diabloii.net [I think its in the zon forum] that should tell you the mercs.) get him some nice armor with ED, shaftstop is great for this, then a helm with leech (vamp gaze, although it is a bit pricey, I've found that Crown of Thieves works pretty well), then throw insight (ral tir tal sol) in an elite POLEARM NOT SPEAR. that would get you a decent tank to mess around with and good for running ancient tunnels in act 2. He'll also get you to durance three but he won't be able to tank meph. Just learn to moat trick (tele to meph, run to stairs on left facing south, then tele across to the second burning urn and blizz). Since the runes prices have dropped so much you _SHOULD_ be able to get some nice stuff after not too long. If you have any questions fire away or pm me. EDIT: this is the merc guide http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=306061 Actually, alot of pros suggest you max out synergies first. That allows you to use less mana per cast while still getting higher damage from synergies. Doesn't really matter though.
The synergies add a % to the total damage... I'd rather have a higher dmg for the % to affect than a large % on a smaller number.
Also on a side note, most people suggest to leave cold mastery at 16 because that is the cap for -resistance on most normal mosters. I chose to max it for shit and giggles, but I've found that it helps because I do an assload more damage than is shown vs every monster. It's up to you really, but you DO need to get it to 16 to get the most out of your skill points.
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Counting +skills and charms:
Blizzard at lvl 20 with no synergies: around 2200 damage and 65 mana cost
Blizzard at lvl 1 with 1 maxed synergies (20 ice bolt): around 1700 damage and 46 mana cost
Blizzard at lvl 1 with 2 maxed synergies (20 ice bolt and 20 ice blast): around 2200 and 46 mana cost
While you might not gain as much damage from synergies, I think it's enough to max out Blizzard last because of the difference in mana cost. Of course, this is only counting if you have alot of +skills items and grand charms. The 5% bonus from synergies is going to be low otherwise. This wouldn't work if you'r'e also trying to level the "legit" way. I see what you're saying though.
Since I like to just Grush my characters, I do it this way 
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i play single player d2 only. No runs, but by the time you'll have cleared out hell you'll be over 80. I don't have great gear (obv hard to get), but a couple top items i got while playing (stormshield, bonehew). lower runewords ( like RalOrtTal, IthElEth) are essential since higher runes are impossible to get, and you won't find good enough uniques or rares. It's mostly a waste of time, but i like to waste time.
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PvP in D2 does take a little bit of knowledge/skillful execution. My finest character was my 91 Bone Necro with all-vit pump. (Marrows, Enigma, Homo, Gryff tiara, Hoto and Cta His worst nemisis was a skilled trapsin (assuming I didn't go absorb)
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If you wanna get rich, Mephisto is NOT the way to go, rather cow-runs. Reason: they drop an insane amount of charms, and a goodly charm can easily get you all the gear you wanted. I just traded a 5res all/2dex charm for:
Ist'ed Occy
Ist'ed Tals Armor
Tals Ammy
Tals Belt (15mf)
2xPul
That charm came of the NIGHTMARE cows. I find NM to be more efficient than Hell cows for charm hunting, if you're looking for SC's.
Look for charms with:
+19-20 life
+16-17 mana
+10-11single res
+3-5 all res
+6-7 mf
+5% FHR
+3% FRW
If you hit any combination of these, you've won the jackpot.
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The only way of getting rich without any external help, scamming, or hacks is doing mass mf runs. =(
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anybody wanna play a little with me. Im just reinstalling it and all my characters have expired
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On March 24 2007 13:19 infinity21 wrote:
The only way of getting rich without any external help, scamming, or hacks is doing mass mf runs. =(
Actually I never found anything of value, I just traded my way to the top 
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infinity21
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On March 24 2007 13:41 MoltkeWarding wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2007 13:19 infinity21 wrote:
The only way of getting rich without any external help, scamming, or hacks is doing mass mf runs. =( Actually I never found anything of value, I just traded my way to the top
Right. I forgot about that. I was never good at trading though. Mmm I'm too lazy to spend time trading and I'm usually too lazy to do mass mf runs so that's why I quit D2. =(
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Yeah trading is an option too.
Start with your HF rune, break it into crafting runes, sell those crafting runes for HR's, rinse and repeat - it's possible, I've started with an ist and ended with 5 HR's. Long time ago, though.
On a completely unrelated matter, does anyone know the value of a 27/325/446 Metalgrid?
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are hammerdins or smiters more common for paldins?
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If you want to PVP, the only classes you can make are necro or druid. I would highly suggest you go with a druid though. No other class can PVP competitively (unless there have been major updates since 1.10).
First, every element can be absorbed/resisted, so that narrows down your options to physical and magic damage.
From there, only two classes have resummonable pets, and those are necros and druids. Pets are important because when you teleport around, your pets will absorb any damage you take. So if you are a druid teleporting around, you can teleport RIGHT ontop of almost any class (including 20k dmg hammerdins) and they will have to attack 6 times (killing all 6 of your pets) before you get hit even once. Bone necros can achieve the same effect with revives/skels but getting corpses is a hassle.
Necros and druids are two of a VERY small group of pvp classes that deal damage that cannot be effectively negated (tornado and bone spear are basically the 2 best attacks in D2, they also have low mana costs). Coincidently, both classes are ALSO the only two classes with recastable damage absorbing shields (which make a huge difference because absorbed damage doesnt stun you).
Unfortunately, getting items is impossible now. Equipment pieces are easy, but the charms are a killer. You need dual stat small charms and very specific gcs to be competitive, and those are extremely rare even if you are willing to spend money.
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but for getting runes its all chance. Hell rushing for fordge people works well.
but i've always used my MetorOrB Sorce, mazing out Orb with singregy at lvl ten.
then maxing metor and all singeries.
usuing the stantard mf gear, occy, skulders...ect
then i have a gull dagger and a spirit shield( or something like that) on swtich so when i go for the kill shot i have an extra 70 something MF.
On March 24 2007 13:53 kNyTTyM wrote:
are hammerdins or smiters more common for paldins?
hammerdins are more common, smiters are more a PvP character.
i may be wrong though i havnted played d2 for a while.
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i remember when i use to play that there is a range for MF where you get more uniques than rares or something...like maybe 300-350 > 500+ or some shit? someone confirm?
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On March 24 2007 15:52 Metal[x] wrote:
i remember when i use to play that there is a range for MF where you get more uniques than rares or something...like maybe 300-350 > 500+ or some shit? someone confirm?
that is sill in effect, 300-400 is what I aim for, after that the diminishing returns make the damage loss not worth it.
And as for the +skills with blizzard, you need to remember that +skills do _NOT_ affect synergies. Synergies are only applied to the base level of the skills. Also, maxing ice bolt first is simply retarded... you have ice blast AND glacial spike that you can max as synergies of blizzard, both of which are MUCH more useful than ice bolt, blast does more damage to one enemy (and freezes, not slows) and glacial freezes a group of enemies.
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On March 24 2007 13:03 Hans-Titan wrote:
If you wanna get rich, Mephisto is NOT the way to go, rather cow-runs. Reason: they drop an insane amount of charms, and a goodly charm can easily get you all the gear you wanted. I just traded a 5res all/2dex charm for:
Ist'ed Occy
Ist'ed Tals Armor
Tals Ammy
Tals Belt (15mf)
2xPul
That charm came of the NIGHTMARE cows. I find NM to be more efficient than Hell cows for charm hunting, if you're looking for SC's.
Look for charms with:
+19-20 life
+16-17 mana
+10-11single res
+3-5 all res
+6-7 mf
+5% FHR
+3% FRW
If you hit any combination of these, you've won the jackpot.
That 5resist/2dex charm is worth than all that crap you traded for. Sorry to break it to you >_<
But anyways, for everyone talking D2 trading as a way to get rich... it's no longer like that. You can still do it, but it's harder than ever before. People don't do "mass" trades like they used to. I'm talking about back in the day when you could collect all your chipped gems from your first character and trade 40 of them for a SoJ. Then you could also do PGem-find runs and trade 40 for a SoJ. Those were easy days. Now, the currency is pretty much HRs and it fluctuates quite a bit. For example, three weeks ago an Arach was worth 9 SoJs. Now it's worth about 2. It'll go up again I'm sure. For this reason, I think it'll be hard to get rich from trading again. Another major reason is that people are afraid of dupes so even if you spam channels, you won't get much response. It took me three days to trade for a Grief, and my offer was OVER OVER pay: 10x PCombat w/ various life bonuses and 10x HRs.
At any rate, I just think that magic finding will probably be more time efficient than trading.
And yes, more than 400-500 MF is just stupid.
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this game is easy just spend a week on it you'll have 100+ hrs
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On March 24 2007 21:56 V_DrOp)Reaver wrote:
this game is easy just spend a week on it you'll have 100+ hrs
You're retarded...
And the reason the prices are jacked up right now is that the ladder has been up for so long that everything that is even remotely within the reach of the casual player is worth next to nothing.
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d2jsp part is true, however for cheap mf you can't beat a blizz sorc.
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On March 24 2007 23:03 PTC-Hurricane wrote:d2jsp part is true, however for cheap mf you can't beat a blizz sorc.
meh, i prefer the orb. maybe i just dont remember the blizz well enough
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Orb owns nm, but it is inneffective vs bosses. It would work for cows well enough, but blizzard is jusut as effective if not more so and adds the versatility of bosses. Not to mention the gear for an effective blizz sorc is cheaper and you can't moat with orb.
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Actually, a cheaper alternative would be a hammerdin.
Wizardspike
Lidless w/ P Diamond
Shako /w P Topaz
Skulder's /w Topaz
Magefist
Nagel rings
Goldwrap
Any amulet with Magic Find and resist
Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find
80% FCR with is decent
Ensured 104 Resist + possible more
About 300% Magic Find
This build also allows you to Magic Find anyone because there is no monster that is immune to Magic Damage (except for 1 in Act 3). Without Enigma, you can't teleport... but you can make up for it by using charge. This will allow you to run where you would be if you teleported.
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does anyone know when the ladder reset? id rather just waste my time when everyone else has too also 
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Just spend $10 on some online store items and then trade them around and resell them to make your money back. I did that, played for 3 years, made over $5000 off of ebaying all my shit. I was also lucky in that a friend of mine who had 720 HRs quit and gave them all to me. lol
Also once you become richer, MF will just be a huge waste of time for you. The rarest items all go for shit except like 30%fathoms and so forth; it's must more productive to trade.
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On March 25 2007 00:13 TheosEx wrote:
Actually, a cheaper alternative would be a hammerdin.
Wizardspike
Lidless w/ P Diamond
Shako /w P Topaz
Skulder's /w Topaz
Magefist
Nagel rings
Goldwrap
Any amulet with Magic Find and resist
Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find
80% FCR with is decent
Ensured 104 Resist + possible more
About 300% Magic Find
This build also allows you to Magic Find anyone because there is no monster that is immune to Magic Damage (except for 1 in Act 3). Without Enigma, you can't teleport... but you can make up for it by using charge. This will allow you to run where you would be if you teleported.
The only thing with the hammerdin is how close you have ato get to the enemies. Unless you are patient and/or VERY used to using a hammerdin I'm not so sure that is a safe build. The blizz sorc is rarely hit.
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blizz sometimes dont always hit enemy, if it is semi narrow...thats why orbers are cool!
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On March 24 2007 23:29 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
Orb owns nm, but it is inneffective vs bosses. It would work for cows well enough, but blizzard is jusut as effective if not more so and adds the versatility of bosses. Not to mention the gear for an effective blizz sorc is cheaper and you can't moat with orb.
orb owns hell. 700 damage per bolt + maxed cold mastery. All you have to do is learn how to attack w/ orb so it explodes right behind the boss. i killed hell meph in 3-4 orbs.
and as for hammerdin:
Wizardspike
Lidless w/ P Diamond
Shako /w P Topaz
Skulder's /w Topaz
Magefist
Nagel rings
Goldwrap
Any amulet with Magic Find and resist
Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find
80% FCR with is decent
Ensured 104 Resist + possible more
About 300% Magic Find
lol @ hammerdin w/out enigma/hoto/spirit or hoz
And as for trading...it's the only way i've gotten anything i have. trading up on jsp rulesssss
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dont play d2. its gonna mess up your life lol
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MFing? Meh, I USED to mf...then I just got lucky when ladder reset and people gave me frees ^.^! So I partially traded and was partially helped all the way to the top on HCNL....it's almost impossible to find good runes nowadays...and people are starting to be less willing to trade them because duping is now blocked and D2 is on a steady decline.
If you want to get rich, FAST....my suggestion would be to make a NL character and wait for the ladder to end and hope you get some in a free game. Luck. This game is all fucking luck. -.-
MAKE FRIENDS! That is the best way to start working up that ladder ><!
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On March 25 2007 12:15 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2007 23:29 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
Orb owns nm, but it is inneffective vs bosses. It would work for cows well enough, but blizzard is jusut as effective if not more so and adds the versatility of bosses. Not to mention the gear for an effective blizz sorc is cheaper and you can't moat with orb. orb owns hell. 700 damage per bolt + maxed cold mastery. All you have to do is learn how to attack w/ orb so it explodes right behind the boss. i killed hell meph in 3-4 orbs. and as for hammerdin: Wizardspike Lidless w/ P Diamond Shako /w P Topaz Skulder's /w Topaz Magefist Nagel rings Goldwrap Any amulet with Magic Find and resist Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find 80% FCR with is decent Ensured 104 Resist + possible more About 300% Magic Find lol @ hammerdin w/out enigma/hoto/spirit or hoz And as for trading...it's the only way i've gotten anything i have. trading up on jsp rulesssss
You want the orb to explode ON the enemy, not behind him. It's really easy when you get the hang of it. Also, a hammerdin with high FRW and high vigor can run almost as fast as you can teleport, and if you are just starting out it's fine.
Also regardless of whether you like it or not blizzard is far more powerful vs single targets than orb. I prefer orb as well, but I still kno blizzard is alot stronger in damage.
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ladder resetting when?
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On March 25 2007 14:05 Ganfei wrote:
You want the orb to explode ON the enemy, not behind him. It's really easy when you get the hang of it. Also, a hammerdin with high FRW and high vigor can run almost as fast as you can teleport, and if you are just starting out it's fine.
Also regardless of whether you like it or not blizzard is far more powerful vs single targets than orb. I prefer orb as well, but I still kno blizzard is alot stronger in damage.
teleporting past walls/enemies is completely uncomparably better than running, no matter how fast you are. oh well, enigmas are pretty cheap these days anyways.
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how often are you on decaf? We need to play sometime
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i get addicted to this game so easy. I created character yesterday and now hes 63.
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On March 25 2007 12:15 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2007 23:29 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
Orb owns nm, but it is inneffective vs bosses. It would work for cows well enough, but blizzard is jusut as effective if not more so and adds the versatility of bosses. Not to mention the gear for an effective blizz sorc is cheaper and you can't moat with orb. orb owns hell. 700 damage per bolt + maxed cold mastery. All you have to do is learn how to attack w/ orb so it explodes right behind the boss. i killed hell meph in 3-4 orbs. and as for hammerdin: Wizardspike Lidless w/ P Diamond Shako /w P Topaz Skulder's /w Topaz Magefist Nagel rings Goldwrap Any amulet with Magic Find and resist Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find 80% FCR with is decent Ensured 104 Resist + possible more About 300% Magic Find lol @ hammerdin w/out enigma/hoto/spirit or hoz And as for trading...it's the only way i've gotten anything i have. trading up on jsp rulesssss
Spirit/Hoz or Hoto doesn't help in MF, which was my point. We're also talking about cheap characters because after all, having expensive crap defeats the purpose of MF. I gave him a build that is the cheapest possible. Sure, I can give him a godly gear build consisting of 20x 7smfcs, Enigma, Slippers, War Travelers, Arach, etc. but what will he do 'till he gets that, which will be a while.
As for trading, I barely ever trade and when I do, I always overpay because I'm sick of finding someone smart enough to know the actual worth of their items. That saves me time. Seeing as how I have endless mules of almost anything I want, however, I trade only to save me time of getting the stuff myself.
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I suppose you can get away with using wiz spike, but that +3 skills really helps
And a lidless doesnt help in mf so im not sure why you brought that up...but theres no reason not to make a spirit with 35+ resist in a shield, they're not too uncommon and the runes are really easy to get.
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mibee cuz +1 skill w/ lidless? and the faster cast rate? actually i forget any mods that shield has but im assuming it has those
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could someone tell me if the key's quest (of terror, of destruction, of hate) works in single player?.
(i found a key of hate)
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On March 27 2007 00:39 xM(Z wrote:
could someone tell me if the key's quest (of terror, of destruction, of hate) works in single player?.
(i found a key of hate)
You can find the keys, but they don't do anything.
One of diabloii.net's many FAQs
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Ha i want to d2 lod now but i lost my cd and key.
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I haven't tried this, but one method I heard of getting rich fast was to load up on skill charms.
Run NM Travincal over until you find a grand charm. If it's a skill charm (a good one that people actually want. Not something like defensive auras or something), keep it. If it's not, put it in the cube and put 3 perfect gems in it to reroll. Keep doing it until you get a good skill charm.
I've had terrible luck with this, but some people got rich really fast using this method. The odds are supposed to be 1 in 9 or 1 in 11 or something like that, but I swear it's worse than 1 in 30 for me.
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On March 25 2007 15:49 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 14:05 Ganfei wrote:
You want the orb to explode ON the enemy, not behind him. It's really easy when you get the hang of it. Also, a hammerdin with high FRW and high vigor can run almost as fast as you can teleport, and if you are just starting out it's fine.
Also regardless of whether you like it or not blizzard is far more powerful vs single targets than orb. I prefer orb as well, but I still kno blizzard is alot stronger in damage. teleporting past walls/enemies is completely uncomparably better than running, no matter how fast you are. oh well, enigmas are pretty cheap these days anyways.
if you are beginning
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decaf, I forgot you play Ladder. In Non-Ladder, Spirit's cost a ton, so Lidless is the alternate option. It offers 20% FCR, which totaled with Magefist and Wizardspike gives 90% FCR, which is needed to break 75% FCR breakpoint.
Hoto would be nice, but Wizardspike offers more resistance, and seeing as how that build will kind of lack resistance, it helps quite a bit.
In my experience, this hammerdin is the best to use for MF.
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On March 27 2007 08:52 Purind wrote:
I haven't tried this, but one method I heard of getting rich fast was to load up on skill charms.
Run NM Travincal over until you find a grand charm. If it's a skill charm (a good one that people actually want. Not something like defensive auras or something), keep it. If it's not, put it in the cube and put 3 perfect gems in it to reroll. Keep doing it until you get a good skill charm.
I've had terrible luck with this, but some people got rich really fast using this method. The odds are supposed to be 1 in 9 or 1 in 11 or something like that, but I swear it's worse than 1 in 30 for me.
Sorry to double-post, but yes this is true. My brother does this. It's supposed to be like 1 in 21. My brother's chances are even better though. He's gotten 3 skillers from just using an inventory full of PGems before.
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The chance depends on where the GC was found (Nm act III I believe is when Skillers start dropping.) if you use a GC from there, you have a much higher chance to roll a skiller because there are less possiblities of mods. However, if you were to roll a GC from hell baal, you will have a lower chance to roll a skiller, but you also get the chance to roll a skiller with +FHR or +life (+30 or more lifers [good ones] go for a lot).
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My brother uses Charms from Hell Cows.
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On March 27 2007 12:55 Metal[x] wrote:
RAWRRRRR!!!!!!!
AAARRRRRRRR!!!
I just started playing LoD a couple weeks ago and I've forgotten how addicting it is.
Blizzard Games > Nicotene.
My orb sorc and pally's going along pretty nicely, but need a few good stuff for it. But not as much as my poor barb does.. needs just about anything. argh.
I'm willing to do fast cows for anyone in return of something nice.
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I have played a whole ton of D2 on the latest patch(1.11b) and can answer any questions you have. As for how to get started and do well without cheating or buying equipment online, I\'ll give you a general starting guide. An added note is that anyone in this thread who said only certin classes or builds are playable is rediculous and grossely inacurate. Different builds are more or less expensive to make, and more suitable for pvm(player vs monster) or pvp. I\'ll give a basic overview on that also. For additional information and trading forums with legit/good mannered people, go to www.diabloii.net
Getting started....
Magic find is the way to build wealth on Diablo 2, but it doesnt take nearly as long as some of the above people have suggested. Here is how to build wealth fast in the least amount of time...
Choose a build where you can use items with magic find %, and it wont hurt your ability to kill monsters too badly. Some suggestions are...
Summon Necromancer (personal favorite)
This build will be maxing skeleton mastery/skeletons/mages(optional) with 1 point into all the gholems and mastery/summon resist(maxing gholem mastery optional to prolong iron gholem life), and one point into bone shield with 1 pt in masteries optional. 1 point in all prerequisits to lower resistence curse. Last and most important, 10+ into corpse explosion.
This is a lesser used mf option but highly effective. You can beat the game with this build in abolutely nothing ( i have beaten the game naked with this build ), which definatly allows you to load up on mf items without hurting your kill speed too badly. He is an excellent team player as well as soloist, using curses and meat shields, while clearing whole screens of enemeis in just a couple corpse explosions.
The general strategy is to raise your gholem (clay a hearty tank with low mana requirments) and use your merc to kill act 1 monsters, using the corpses to raise your hoard. Once you have an army, you are ready to go. The idea is for your minions to protect you. They will not do a lot of damage and you shouldnt worry about that. All they need to do is kill one or two monsters and you use your real weapon, which is corpse explode. Corpse explosion does 1/2 to 3/4 of a monsters total health in damage by exploding thier fallen body. Half of that damage is fire and half is physical, meaning no monster in even Hell difficulty is completely immune from Corpse explosion. Usually the amplify damage curse is used on enemies before you explode bodies to add an extra -100% physical immunity to those monsters.
Any monsters your minions kill will drop the mf% you are wearing. If your merc kills a monster, it drops with the mf% you are wearing + the mf% he/she is wearing.
Hammerdin
I don\'t like starting ladder with this build because it is dependent on you gaining experience in packs untill you reach level 50ish and get a descent holy hammer damage. The build on this is 20 points into holy hammer, blessed aim(damage synergy), vigor(damage synergy), and concentration offensive aura(only aura that increases hammer damage). The perks are that once you do reach a descent level, his gear is cheap (ask me in this thread if you have gear questions for any build) and he is one of the fastest mfers in certin areas.
The strategy here is to charge into groups(i asume you wont have teleport from the enigma runeword if you\'re just starting) and spam hammers. This costs a lot of mana which is paladins weak point, but this can be remedied by a belt full of mana pots or a cheap runeword called insite which your act2 merc can use to give you a near unlimited supply of mana.
Meteorber
This build is for a Sorceress. She maxes meteor, fireball, frozen orb and has 10+into firebolt and fire mastery. 1-5 points into cold mastery and just 1 point into teleport requirments. The idea here is to have enormous fireball and meteor damage which will clear everything up to Hell difficulty. Once you reach Hell, a lot of monsters will be fire immune, which is where your merc\'s physical damage and your orb come in. Orb will slow monsters down while your merc kills monsters. When your merc is in trouble healthwise, you can simply teleport away and go to town to heal him, or use a pot on his portrait in the top left corner. Sure the progress in Hell will be slow for the fire immune areas, but this build is for mfing the areas that are not fire immune. IE: Nm Baal, Hell Addarial, Hell Mephisto, tunnels to the Ancients in act 5, Pindleskin in act 5, and the 2 bosses near the act 5 waypoint 2 gate.
The above are the best builds for people with no equipment to start with, but mfing can be done with any build and you should play what you find to be fun. I have seen mfing Wind Druids, Whirlwind Barbarians, Pure Lightning Sorc\'s and Trap Assasins.
For basic techiniques to get started with MF, continue reading the next post.
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Getting Started
After picking a race, you start in Normal difficulty. No matter what your build is, you should have no trouble malee'ing and casting the occasional spell/minion to progress up to the Act 1 boss Adarial. If you are having trouble with a particular part, enter public games with a few other players around your level to gain experience faster in the areas you have less trouble with. What you want to be doing at this point is planning out your entire builds skill points, because waisted skill points into areas you wont use later will really hurt you later on. Also, pick up and identify any blue/yellow/gold items, wearing the ones that suit you best, and selling the rest for cash.
At this early point you do not want to bother with mf%. Find modifications on blue and yellow items that best help you kill monsters right now. You wont bother adding mf to your equipment untill your build is well started and you are having no problem downing monsters. If you can wait, try and hold of on any mf gear untill you are level60+, as gear with modifiers to help you kill monsters will level you much faster, and get you to nightmare mephisto and baal much faster. These are where nice items are going to start droping.
Keep leveling and learning and having fun untill you get to level 30-40. At this point you can pop Baal to get to the Nightmare difficulty. Your biggest challenges in any difficulty setting will be Durial(the boss in act 2), come to think of it all of act2 is pretty hard , and diablo. The other bosses all have a method to beat them that can be exploited and make your job much easier.
Once in nightmare, continue progressing in the same manner, building up levels and useful equipment on you and your mercenary. Finding a mercenary suitable to your build style is very important. (i can answer questions about this also if someone wants to know) Once you reach nightmare Adarial, a few nice items can drop (including a glitch in the game where the first kill you get on Adarial in Nightmare has the best drop chance in the game for a stone of jordan ring, an extreemly valuable and useful unique((gold)) item). Continue on till you reach nightmare Mephisto. Here is where the fun starts. Nm Mephisto can drop some very nice items. I highly recomend killing him multiple times, as well as all of the monsters in durrence level3. When your level is around 60 you will be close to where you can take a crack at nightmare Baal, which also drops very nice items.
The best drops in the game are of course in Hell difficulty, accessable by defeting nightmare Baal. Hell is very difficult to solo with most builds, but certinally doable with an mfer once you learn your charicters strengths and weaknesses. All monsters in Hell are immune or resistent to some type of damage (physical, fire, cold, lightning), but no monster is immune to all 4 types. (Well there is one but they are in Uber Tristram and you will never meet them in a regular game)
Some areas in Hell to mf are...
Act1- Adarial, the tomb to the right of the tree at blood raven, the pit cave in tamao highlands
Act2- The Sorcerer in the Sanctuary (for the hell key)
Act3- Chaos Sanctuary
Act4- The council, Durrance level2, Durrence level3, Mephisto
Act5- the two bosses near waypoint2, pindleskin(boss at the enterence to the temple when the gateway to nilathoks temple opens up), nilathok (for destruction key), passage of the ancients, crystal passageway, worldstone levels 2and3, worldstone chamber, Baal.
The areas you mf will depend on your ability to kill the monsters in those areas effectively and fast. The faster you mf, the more chances there are for something to drop.
Start by collecting gems, and cubing them to make perfect gems. These are very tradeable. Keep any equipment with good modifications, that are effective, to trade. Collect money by selling gear you dont need or trade, and from monsters drops. You will eventually come on equipment you dont want that is effective and tradeable (i can help you with price checks) which you can trade for things you do need.
Eventually you will get more then enough wealth to effectively equip yourself in good mf gear and/or more effective monster killing gear.
There are more ways to gain wealth which I may explain to any who are interested. I can also help with the topics of PvP and Rushing if someone needs to know that stuff.
Good luck and have fun.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
omg TrueLove_hu that's an awesome post!
Now I feel like playing D2 again ~_~
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On March 27 2007 13:55 TrueLove_hu wrote:
Some areas in Hell to mf are...
Act1- Adarial, the tomb to the right of the tree at blood raven, the pit cave in tamao highlands
Act2- The Sorcerer in the Sanctuary (for the hell key)
Act3- Chaos Sanctuary
Act4- The council, Durrance level2, Durrence level3, Mephisto
Act5- the two bosses near waypoint2, pindleskin(boss at the enterence to the temple when the gateway to nilathoks temple opens up), nilathok (for destruction key), passage of the ancients, crystal passageway, worldstone levels 2and3, worldstone chamber, Baal
Erm, you switched act's three and four .
Here's my list:
Act I: The Pit, Andariel, Cows
Act II: Ancient Tunnels
Act III: Travincial, Mephisto
Act IV: Chaos Sanctuary
Act V: Shenk, Pindleskin, Baal
Act I
The Pit
The pit is a great place to get started. Almost any char can run it effectively (I personally would suggest a summonmancer, with hammerdin in close second). This run is not designed for MF'ing, although you may find some nice drops on a rare occasion. The pits is a great place to find socketable items. The area level of the pit is 85, thus every monster can drop almost all of the gear in the game, and the boss packs have mlvl (mosnter level) of 86 for minions and 87 for boss, thus the bosses can drop EVERY ITEM in the game. To do this run, simply take the wp to the outer cloister, and then run through the tamoe highland (follow the path) until you find the pit.
Pros: VERY easy, little to no mf equips required. Great place for sockets.
Cons: Highly unlikely to find a good unique/set item.
Suggested Builds: Summon Necromancer, Hammerdin (any class really, those just work slightly better)
Andariel
Andy is a simple run, just stack all the mf gear you can afford and still do decent damage and stay alive. This is your basic boss run, take the wp to catacombs lvl 2 and run/tele to cat4 and kill Andariel. Make sure to clear the lower area so you don't get mobbed with monsters. Andy's poison can be a bitch, so make sure to get a lot of poison resistance and load up on pots. Andy can drop HoZ and has one of the best chances to drop soj (which is still roughly .02% chance without exaggeration).
Pros: Some very nice mf drops. Relatively safe trip there.
Cons: I've found she hits quite hard. Also doesn't drop all the great gear.
Suggested Builds: Hammerdin. (Hammerdin is the only class that comes to mind. Sorc's can't really take the damage while sustaining decent mf gear.)
Cows
Cows is pretty basic. Make the portal and kill all the cows. The idea is the same as the pits, just with more enemies that are much tougher. If you can handle it, this is a great place.
Pros: Drops everything.
Cons: Bad place for uniques/sets.
Suggested Builds: Lighting Javazon, Lightning sorc. (King is light immune, thus you will never accidently kill him. Grab a merc to handle light immune boss packs.)
Act II
Ancient Tunnels
Ancient tunnels is the same as the pits, just with act II. Take the TP to the Lost city and find the trap door to the Ancient Tunnels. The great part about this place is that there are not monsters that are immune to cold (other than the occasional boss pack), this makes the blizz sorc a great choice.
Pros: Drops everything.
Cons: Bad for MF
Suggested Builds: Blizzard Sorc (Blizz sorc wins this hands down. The summoner would work, but the blizz sorc just tears through here.)
Act III
Travincial
Trav is an interesting place. The council drop a lot of gold and have a good chance to drop some nice runes. Take the WP to Travincial and kill the high council. The idea here is to get lucky with some drops and hopefully find some nice runes. The barb can take advantage of the gold drop by stacking a bunch of +gold dropped by enemy gear and taking them out and then gambling for some nice rares.
Pros: Great gold drop -> lots of gambling. Also good chance for some runes.
Cons: Not so great MF and few monsters.
Suggested Builds: ItemFind Barb (ww or conc)
Mephisto
Meph is one of the most popular runs. He doesn't drop everything, but he drops good often. Take the WP to durance of hate 2 and run/tele to durance 3 and kill meph. Meph has low cold resistance and there is a trick where you can get him stuck in a place where he can't hit you and you're free to BLIZZARD him to death.
Pros: Great for MF. Drops a lot often.
Cons: Doesn't drop everything, and few godlies.
Suggested Build: Blizzard Sorc. (no question at all. Blizzard sorc can tele and most importantly, moat meph.)
Act IV
Chaos Sanctuary
Chaos is a great place to mf IF you can survive it. Take the WP to river of flame and run/tele to chaos. The problem with chaos is that all of the monsters are strong and the doom knights tend to cast iron maiden at the worst possible times. With chaos, you can find anything, runes, socketables, charms, even some nice MF off of Diablo and the boss packs.
Pros: Drops everything and a lot of it.
Cons: HARD AREA
Suggested Builds: Hammerdin, Summonmancer (hammerdin and summonmancer are the only buids that can do this with decent mf gear and stay alive. I do realize that other builds CAN run this, but not as effectively. I'd go with a Summonmancer personally because they don't need to be in the action and thus are much less likely to die. Just make sure to curse diablo with decrep and get a clay golem in there.
Act V
Shenk
Shenk is a fairly quick run. Take the wp to the frigid highlands and go down the stairs and kill Shenk the Overseer, and then run back up past the portal and kill the other boss pack (the name escapes me.). This is not a very good run to do on its own. Usually you would throw this in with a pindle or meph run just to get that little extra bit out of each run.
Pros: Quick, some good drops.
Cons: Doesn't drop much often. Mostly a filler run.
Suggested Build: Hammerdin. (Anything can run this really, the only down side is that shenk has random immunities and his minions are immune to either fire or cold [I forget])
Pindleskin
Pindle is a very popular run due to its quick nature and good drops. Take the red portal to nhilitak's temple and pindle is right inside the building. Pindle's minions hit hard, so you need to either clear them fast or get a tank (a merc with leech will work fine). Pindle drops good gear quite often. I would highly suggest this run once you have some decent mf gear and damage. Throwing in a shenk run takes the repition out somewhat. MAKE SURE YOU END THIS RUN BY GOING DOWN THE STARIS AND THEN TPING BACK TO TOWN. If you don't the minions will rise behind you and you will die trying to get back through the portal.
Pros: Very good drops.
Cons: Slightly difficult, and not a lot of drops per game.
Suggested build: Blizzard sorc. (You can freeze the enemies and pindle goes down with 3-5 blizz's with shit gear. Once again, any class can do this, but I've found blizz sorcs to be VERY effective with this. Just make sure you have a merc to tank and you freeze the minions.)
Baal
Baal is a great run, but it takes a while. Take the WP to World Stone Keep 2 and run/tele to the Throne of destruction. Clear the five waves of enemies and then go into the World Stone Keep to kill baal. This run is great because there are a lot of drops (the first five waves are decent for socketables and runes), and baal can drop every item in the game, and being an act boss has a good drop rate. This run is long, but it also gives a lot of experience, so its a two for one with the sacrifice of time.
Pros: Great drops and EXP.
Cons: Long. It is also relatively difficult.
Suggested Builds: Hammerdin, Summonmancer (both the Hammerdin and Summonmancer are great for this run. They can take the five waves with relative ease and halfway decent gear. Baal is a little tricky for summoners, but after a while it'll be easier. All builds can do this run eventually, but these two are the most effective and the cheapest.)
Misc.
Diablo Clone
One way to get some wealth (after you have a little of it yourself) is to gear up a smiter. A decent one is actually very cheap and you could find over half the stuff yourself. Just shop a wand with life tap and get your hands on some dracs. The only expensive part is the shield. Try to get an HoZ with an Um or Pdiamond in it or a nice sanctuary (this is if you want to do ubers with it as well, which I HIGHLY reccomend.) Then just dl MIRC and go to the Dclone channel. Find a game on the right server and grab yourself an anni. this method takes a while, but annis go for good money. If you can get two copies of d2 going at the same time and park a mule in another game even better.
Pros: GREAT money. Also very easy after the first time
Cons: Takes a LONG time. Also needs halfway decent gear and a pretty good understanding of how dclone works.
Suggested Build: Smiter. (Nothing else will do except a smiter/zeal hybrid.)
Refer to this for info on Dclone: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=223863&highlight=dclone
Uber Tristam
This is also a way to put your new smiter to use. Once you have some runes grab an organset or keyset. If you got a keyset, do the three mini quests to get the three organs. Once you have the three organs, open up the portal to uber tristam and draw out Uber meph, life tap and smite him to death. Rinse and repeat on Uber Diablo and Uber Baal. Grab your unique large charm and GTFO. I would suggest you sell your unid torch considering they go for more than an organ set you will make a steady stream of cash. If you feel lucky you can ID it and hope for a decent sorc or pally torch, otherwise you just got the shaft and lost money.
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Whoops, your right there Hurricane. My bad.
@Infinity, I play west ladder and nonladder, which I know would not be your server of choice, being in Europe, but if you ever play west I'd be happy to help you out with some startup gear and levels.
ps. Quite a while ago I was a big fan of yours and Cameleons. I really enjoyed your play style back then with Terran and latter Zerg. Cam's toss was really entertaining too. And you are both nice guys. Good stuff. Well, enough of that! If theres anything I can answer about D2 I would be really happy to.
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Also @ Hurricane. Travincal council is ideal for a Goldfind Barb wih WW or Conc. Is that what you meant? They drop the most gold in game and are right by a gate so you can easily pick up 300k gold with a lot of goldfind to gamble with. Item wise they drop pretty badly except the sheer number of blue and yellow items sometimes turns up some good mods that are valuable in trades.
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Thats exactly what I meant. You stack goldfind items and use the gold to gamble for good rares.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
On March 24 2007 15:06 Wangsta wrote:
If you want to PVP, the only classes you can make are necro or druid. I would highly suggest you go with a druid though. No other class can PVP competitively (unless there have been major updates since 1.10).
First, every element can be absorbed/resisted, so that narrows down your options to physical and magic damage.
From there, only two classes have resummonable pets, and those are necros and druids. Pets are important because when you teleport around, your pets will absorb any damage you take. So if you are a druid teleporting around, you can teleport RIGHT ontop of almost any class (including 20k dmg hammerdins) and they will have to attack 6 times (killing all 6 of your pets) before you get hit even once. Bone necros can achieve the same effect with revives/skels but getting corpses is a hassle.
Necros and druids are two of a VERY small group of pvp classes that deal damage that cannot be effectively negated (tornado and bone spear are basically the 2 best attacks in D2, they also have low mana costs). Coincidently, both classes are ALSO the only two classes with recastable damage absorbing shields (which make a huge difference because absorbed damage doesnt stun you).
Unfortunately, getting items is impossible now. Equipment pieces are easy, but the charms are a killer. You need dual stat small charms and very specific gcs to be competitive, and those are extremely rare even if you are willing to spend money. Well, this is all cool, but how does that correlate with the strongest PvP class being the BvC?
Faith bowazons are also very specialized, but extremely strong vs some classes. Guided arrow namelocked bypasses pets, too bad for druids.
Hammerdins/smiter/hybrids probably stand right next after BvC, druids coming only third. But pretty much every class has it's arch-nemesis (bowazons kill hammerdins, smiters kill bowazons etc) while BvC is pretty much the only class without weaknesses. The only class they can't catch/snipe with widowmaker switch are max FCR light sorcs, but thankfully, there are wonderful sets of resist gear that completely negate lightning damage. Oh yeah, they lose vs Fury druids, but who the hell makes fury druids nowadays anyway?
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On March 29 2007 11:35 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2007 15:06 Wangsta wrote:
If you want to PVP, the only classes you can make are necro or druid. I would highly suggest you go with a druid though. No other class can PVP competitively (unless there have been major updates since 1.10).
First, every element can be absorbed/resisted, so that narrows down your options to physical and magic damage.
From there, only two classes have resummonable pets, and those are necros and druids. Pets are important because when you teleport around, your pets will absorb any damage you take. So if you are a druid teleporting around, you can teleport RIGHT ontop of almost any class (including 20k dmg hammerdins) and they will have to attack 6 times (killing all 6 of your pets) before you get hit even once. Bone necros can achieve the same effect with revives/skels but getting corpses is a hassle.
Necros and druids are two of a VERY small group of pvp classes that deal damage that cannot be effectively negated (tornado and bone spear are basically the 2 best attacks in D2, they also have low mana costs). Coincidently, both classes are ALSO the only two classes with recastable damage absorbing shields (which make a huge difference because absorbed damage doesnt stun you).
Unfortunately, getting items is impossible now. Equipment pieces are easy, but the charms are a killer. You need dual stat small charms and very specific gcs to be competitive, and those are extremely rare even if you are willing to spend money. Well, this is all cool, but how does that correlate with the strongest PvP class being the BvC? Faith bowazons are also very specialized, but extremely strong vs some classes. Guided arrow namelocked bypasses pets, too bad for druids. Hammerdins/smiter/hybrids probably stand right next after BvC, druids coming only third. But pretty much every class has it's arch-nemesis (bowazons kill hammerdins, smiters kill bowazons etc) while BvC is pretty much the only class without weaknesses. The only class they can't catch/snipe with widowmaker switch are max FCR light sorcs, but thankfully, there are wonderful sets of resist gear that completely negate lightning damage. Oh yeah, they lose vs Fury druids, but who the hell makes fury druids nowadays anyway?
BVC barbs are one of the worst classes you can make... They're only good against sorcs, and even against sorcs you have to stack specific resists or even absorb if you want to have a chance. Nevermind the fact that you have no chance against any necro/druid/paladin/etc. because whirlwind attacks too slowly and will never get past all the pets+defense before the caster either kills you or teleports away.
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anyone got a d2 original cd key i can have i lost it and only have my lod key.....if so email it to --
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United States1655 Posts
Just make a MF Sorc first to get gear/items to trade for better gear. Then you can make other characters if you wish.
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Some quick advice for beginners... Beg for rushes, forge isn't worth anything to you if you start so early, so just let them have it, try not to get screwed. Don't beg for items unless you see someone giving them away for cheap or free, in that case your high APM will be able to get you some) Start with a fire sorc (normal fireball/meteor build), it's easy to rack up damage really early on in the game with crappy items, and then as you mf/beg for better items your damage will go up REALLY fast. Once you can do andariel runs in nightmare, you'll find enough stuff to trade for a set of decent mf gear. Once you accumulate a critical mass of items (shako, skullder, frosties, mf rings, occy, etc) make a ~level 80 blizz sorc and do meph and pindle. Begin your hammerdin at this point, they're hard to level up, but if you get one to like level 80 with crappy gear that you get from your blizz sorc, you should be set to do moderate damage. Now you can run rune bosses to accumulate runes. Think countess, council, summoner, etc (look up rune drop % online to get best locations for particular runes) now you have a decent set of mid-level runes, you can start trading for better items, etc. You should be set to make a pvp char after this, because you'll have the necessary wealth to trade for decent pvp gear.
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Ugh.
Hammerdins are the best, in my opinion. I used to run a Blizz Sorc, but I found that the mf was getting in the way of my fcr bps. I also didn't like the fact that I'd die pretty often since I'm a pretty reckless teleporter. Hammerdins can survive much longer, and you can reach a good fcr bp with basic equip along with getting decent fcr. It kills basically as fast as a Blizz Sorc (mine killed Hell Meph in three Blizzards, but it took about the same amount of time as my Hammerdin once I just teled next to it and started Hammering.
I used to play the game so much that I could tell you how the game generates the maps. There are only four distinct patters of Waypoint/Entrance to boss level for cats 2/3/4, Durance and WSK. Once you figure out which direction the waypoint is facing, you can find the way you want to go immediately. I forgot, since I haven't played D2X in ages.
Also, after you get rich enough, you could always make a smiter and run torches. I believe someone made a smiter with all low set/low uniques and beat chaos trist, it was on a post on gfaqs over a year ago.
Hell cows aren't useful. Takes too long to get no good items, but at least they're good for finding socketables.
My old MF routine (I had 24x 7mf scs from a friend) was
Hell Andy (easy once you know map generating algorithm)
Hell Countess (same)
Hell Meph (same)
Hell Baal (same)
Hell Shenk
Hell Eldritch.
I never bothered with Pindle since they absolutely raped his TC/something like that.
It's much easier to bot, actually. I suppose Hell Cows would be much more useful if you could bot, since they have an insane TC and can drop the most rare magics such as JMoD, etc. I'm too lazy to actually ID any rare/magic I find, so I never run Hell Cows.
Sorry for the long post.
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On March 29 2007 22:52 zdd wrote:
Some quick advice for beginners... Beg for rushes, forge isn't worth anything to you if you start so early, so just let them have it, try not to get screwed. Don't beg for items unless you see someone giving them away for cheap or free, in that case your high APM will be able to get you some) Start with a fire sorc (normal fireball/meteor build), it's easy to rack up damage really early on in the game with crappy items, and then as you mf/beg for better items your damage will go up REALLY fast. Once you can do andariel runs in nightmare, you'll find enough stuff to trade for a set of decent mf gear. Once you accumulate a critical mass of items (shako, skullder, frosties, mf rings, occy, etc) make a ~level 80 blizz sorc and do meph and pindle. Begin your hammerdin at this point, they're hard to level up, but if you get one to like level 80 with crappy gear that you get from your blizz sorc, you should be set to do moderate damage. Now you can run rune bosses to accumulate runes. Think countess, council, summoner, etc (look up rune drop % online to get best locations for particular runes) now you have a decent set of mid-level runes, you can start trading for better items, etc. You should be set to make a pvp char after this, because you'll have the necessary wealth to trade for decent pvp gear.
wtf. No.
Do not listen to this guy. Fire sorcs need FCR, and they are no where NEAR as efficent as cold sorcs fo mf.
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unless something drasticly changed since i stoped playing (v 1.11), meteorbs are the best mf-ers
max meteor, orb, fireball, f.mastery, get points in teleport, warmth and c.mastery (start maxing it last, i doubt u will have higher than lvl 80 on mf-er)
set up your gear to max hp, not mf!!! this is the most important part. i'm not saying don't get mf, but puting goldwrap or some crap on just to get 10% more mf is stupid. difference between 600 and 1000 mf is almost none, but 500 more hp, fhr and +10 to skills will make your runs much more effective. at least untill you actualy find good items that greatly increase your chance of getting good items... etc.
places depend on items you are searching for
for pvp gear the pit (max mf on this run, it greatly affects chance of finding blues)
for jewels arcane sanct. (15 ias 40 ed can be traded quite well)
for good pvm items (unique/rare) meph and baal
for charms cow level
for runes baal (not countess, she gives crap), just keep your ears open
for finishing sets baal (only one who drops things like immortal kings soul cage etc.)
ror unique/rare rings/ammys andariel
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Meteorb sorcs aren't as efficient for MF as either hammerdins or Blizz sorcs since they can't kill as fast.
Most blizz sorcs just run Hell Meph only, as it's only 3-4 blizzards before it's dead, then you can walk through the portal into Act 4 and cain your items.
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Anyone just play this game casually for fun anymore with their friends while comming back from a party drunk?
or is it all business now?
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On March 30 2007 14:50 ZaplinG wrote:
Anyone just play this game casually for fun anymore with their friends while comming back from a party drunk?
or is it all business now?
Me me I do play this game "casually for fun anymore with their friends while comming back from a party drunk"
Its all good times.
edit: anyone introduce their lady to this game? I introduced mine to a various of other games she wasn't really into any of them until I introduced D2 to her and BAM! shes hooked like a crack whore on crack.
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On March 30 2007 15:05 madro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2007 14:50 ZaplinG wrote:
Anyone just play this game casually for fun anymore with their friends while comming back from a party drunk?
or is it all business now? Me me I do play this game "casually for fun anymore with their friends while comming back from a party drunk" Its all good times. edit: anyone introduce their lady to this game? I introduced mine to a various of other games she wasn't really into any of them until I introduced D2 to her and BAM! shes hooked like a crack whore on crack.
Does she visit TL regularly?
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Girls like D2 because it's easy. Click click click... enemy is dead.
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On March 25 2007 01:06 PTC-Hurricane wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 00:13 TheosEx wrote:
Actually, a cheaper alternative would be a hammerdin.
Wizardspike
Lidless w/ P Diamond
Shako /w P Topaz
Skulder's /w Topaz
Magefist
Nagel rings
Goldwrap
Any amulet with Magic Find and resist
Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find
80% FCR with is decent
Ensured 104 Resist + possible more
About 300% Magic Find
This build also allows you to Magic Find anyone because there is no monster that is immune to Magic Damage (except for 1 in Act 3). Without Enigma, you can't teleport... but you can make up for it by using charge. This will allow you to run where you would be if you teleported. The only thing with the hammerdin is how close you have ato get to the enemies. Unless you are patient and/or VERY used to using a hammerdin I'm not so sure that is a safe build. The blizz sorc is rarely hit.
Dude, the hammerdin is pretty much the best PvM char there is.
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On March 30 2007 22:31 TheosEx wrote:
Girls like D2 because it's easy. Click click click... enemy is dead.
You should look at Maple Story. THAT's an easy game. So addicting too >__<
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and 1 of the best ways to get yourself a decent magic finder character i suggest Javazon
i saw the javazon with 500% mf and its fantastic
the pit level 2 its very nicei do lil pit runs with my barbarian and its really worth it in the beginin)
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On March 31 2007 15:02 skunk1 wrote:and 1 of the best ways to get yourself a decent magic finder character i suggest Javazon i saw the javazon with 500% mf and its fantastic the pit level 2 its very nice i do lil pit runs with my barbarian and its really worth it in the beginin )
Or you could make a Blizz sorc for much cheaper.
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On March 31 2007 14:30 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2007 22:31 TheosEx wrote:
Girls like D2 because it's easy. Click click click... enemy is dead. You should look at Maple Story. THAT's an easy game. So addicting too >__< erm dude no i can't jump properly and always fall down some cracks. it is retarded.
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On March 23 2007 21:17 kNyTTyM wrote:
as long as the game hasn't changed much from when I played it goes like this.
Your first character has to be an mfer (magicfind) or you have to get some free crap from someone.
Get a rush through normal difficulty and do tristram runs and tomb runs until 20. Do cows until 24 and then the ancients to get to 25. From here do mass baal runs till like 40.
Next get a rush through nightmare and do baal runs till 60.
Get another rush through hell and do baal runz till like 75.
To mf go to hell mephisto and kill him. Leave game and repeat like 1 million times. Trade away rare stuff for other crap that you need.
To get runes do countess runs in hell. She drops a few runes (usually crappy ones) every time you kill her. She sometimes drops some really rare ones but you are going to have to do many many runs.
Also you can be an uber killer or whatever those things are. They drop that hellfire charm. NOt to familiar with this because I quit a while before that patch came out.
You are going to have to just clock in time to get what you need.
Screw that. 1-99 cow runs.
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1-12: Trist Runs
12-16: Sewers Runs
16-20: Tomb Runs
20-24: Cow Runs
25: Ancients
25-45: Norm Baal Runs
45-70: NM Baal Runs
70-??: Hell Baal Runs
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Is FoHdin any good? (in PvP)
I used to play D2 original and i like paladin very much...
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I was just in my first Uber Leveling game and it's another great (and extremely boring) way to gain experience before level 88 - faster than Baal runs afaik.
Pictures
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2006/screenshot022ryv5.jpg
Basically a sorc stands below that rock and that triggers the minions spawning around 'the target', which in this case is one of the paladins. All the paladins just spam hammers and everyone below lvl 60 level like 3-4 times a minute.
Only real problem is that it lags like hell, and every now and then you need to quit tristram and wait for the lag to settle. Usually takes 3-5 minutes. And it costs an organset, plus you need to be 6+ players in order for it to be effective.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7332/screenshot026jk6.jpg
My pala when I quit. Took me 45 minutes to go from level 82high to 87high.
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[QUOTE]On March 31 2007 12:50 Eniram wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 25 2007 01:06 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 25 2007 00:13 TheosEx wrote:
Actually, a cheaper alternative would be a hammerdin.
Wizardspike
Lidless w/ P Diamond
Shako /w P Topaz
Skulder's /w Topaz
Magefist
Nagel rings
Goldwrap
Any amulet with Magic Find and resist
Any boots with Faster Run/Walk, resist, and maybe even Magic Find
80% FCR with is decent
Ensured 104 Resist + possible more
About 300% Magic Find
This build also allows you to Magic Find anyone because there is no monster that is immune to Magic Damage (except for 1 in Act 3). Without Enigma, you can't teleport... but you can make up for it by using charge. This will allow you to run where you would be if you teleported.[/QUOTE]
The only thing with the hammerdin is how close you have ato get to the enemies. Unless you are patient and/or VERY used to using a hammerdin I'm not so sure that is a safe build. The blizz sorc is rarely hit.[/QUOTE]
lawl
I can tele into a group of enemies with my 3k life, 75% block, and stacked resists, sit their for 5 minutes, come back and use 2 hammers to kill them all. hdins are ridiculously good pvm
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Especially since the only monsters that resist Hammerdins can be killed easily with a merc. Or even level 1 charge + equip.
>_>
And I'd rather hell chaos from 1-60 than go through all those NM Baals.
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who wants to hook me up w/ gosu hammerdin gear...im talking about hoz, hoto, enigma
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On April 01 2007 09:27 Empyrean wrote:
Especially since the only monsters that resist Hammerdins can be killed easily with a merc. Or even level 1 charge + equip.
>_>
And I'd rather hell chaos from 1-60 than go through all those NM Baals.
i'd rather get grushed and 1-80 in uber trist
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For a person with unlimited resources(40+ hr's). What kind of build should i build? For the heck of it? I wont play PvP since im an HC user. And that aspect of the game has never interested me...
Any ideas?
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On April 01 2007 13:31 Return wrote:
For a person with unlimited resources(40+ hr's). What kind of build should i build? For the heck of it? I wont play PvP since im an HC user. And that aspect of the game has never interested me...
Any ideas?
warcry barb
-full warcry charms, max bo, bc, warcry, etc
-dual hoto's
-enigma
-dual bk rings
- +2 barb skills, +max FCR crafted ammy
- +3 warcry + 3 warcries barb helm
the key of this build is to get thousands of hitpoints and to be able to stun everything by teleporting next to it to kill it.
Also try to get a maximum damage nova + magic armor sorc, or an enchanter that can add thousands of damage to level 1 guys, so that they can kill anything with a short bow
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if you know how to play (im assuming you do because you play hc), melee sorc with beast is probably the coolest character ever.
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holy bolt hahaha
Mana cost: 3.3
Magic damage: 4998 - 5628 (ø5313)
Healing: 216 - 451 (ø333.5)
[Synergy] Blessed Hammer: +1000% Magic damage (50% / Lvl)
[Synergy] Fist of the Heavens: +1000% Magic damage (50% / Lvl)
[Synergy] Prayer: +300% Life healed (15% / Lvl)
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On April 01 2007 14:10 Ghin wrote:
if you know how to play (im assuming you do because you play hc), melee sorc with beast is probably the coolest character ever.
Good luck finding two Dreams in HC for any sane value.
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On April 01 2007 15:47 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2007 14:10 Ghin wrote:
if you know how to play (im assuming you do because you play hc), melee sorc with beast is probably the coolest character ever. Good luck finding two Dreams in HC for any sane value.
he said hes rich, i assume he can buy whatever he wants
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On April 01 2007 16:01 Ghin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2007 15:47 Empyrean wrote:On April 01 2007 14:10 Ghin wrote:
if you know how to play (im assuming you do because you play hc), melee sorc with beast is probably the coolest character ever. Good luck finding two Dreams in HC for any sane value. he said hes rich, i assume he can buy whatever he wants
With $$$
But still, before I quit I knew #8 HC overall on West (92 Barb) who used to go around in PvP games and knock the shit out of everyone. Then he died. Ouch.
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Theres an Uber Tristam? :O
Gotta get back into the game and find some mods for that.
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It's not a mod, it's a quest to get a unique large charm.
And it's also an insanely easy way to scam people. At least it was about a year ago.
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can anybody rush me too hell please ?? 
East No ladder
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Does dual dream still work tho? But an melee sorc guide does however look pretty nice. Especially that one with 69k dmg and 4.3k life o,ov me like! Ill check out a warcry barb to tho, thats a good char in all ways :/ same with enchantress.
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i just found a java skiller 21 life
whats it worth?
i have offers like 2ber or enigma
do i get problems if these are duped?
thx in advance
edit: i found an shadow +12 life gc, is it woth something?
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On April 02 2007 05:57 Return wrote:
Does dual dream still work tho? But an melee sorc guide does however look pretty nice. Especially that one with 69k dmg and 4.3k life o,ov me like! Ill check out a warcry barb to tho, thats a good char in all ways :/ same with enchantress.
110k damage per attack for the most high end dual dreamers
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Man reading this makes me want to play again, but it's just such a grind... but so fun!
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On April 02 2007 11:18 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2007 05:57 Return wrote:
Does dual dream still work tho? But an melee sorc guide does however look pretty nice. Especially that one with 69k dmg and 4.3k life o,ov me like! Ill check out a warcry barb to tho, thats a good char in all ways :/ same with enchantress. 110k damage per attack for the most high end dual dreamers
Wow! share a snapshot ? I doubt I've ever seen one.
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On April 02 2007 09:58 IceLeY wrote:
i just found a java skiller 21 life
whats it worth?
i have offers like 2ber or enigma
do i get problems if these are duped?
thx in advance
edit: i found an shadow +12 life gc, is it woth something?
thats worth like at least 8 hr probably, idk
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On April 02 2007 09:58 IceLeY wrote:
i just found a java skiller 21 life
whats it worth?
i have offers like 2ber or enigma
do i get problems if these are duped?
thx in advance
edit: i found an shadow +12 life gc, is it woth something?
Last time I played, you could socket duped runes and it would give them unique identifiers once a runeword was formed, so that was one way of perming them. I think another way was to keep them on a mule, but the process was: put mule in game, when leaving, go in with another character, put runes in trade screen, close trade screen (don't trade), then log off the mule account, and do that every time you have to use the mule in a game. These methods may have been broken by blizzard already, but who knows. If the enigma itself is duped, you'll have to either do the trade screen thing every time (if it still works) or trade it away before it poofs.
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On April 02 2007 12:29 madro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2007 11:18 Empyrean wrote:On April 02 2007 05:57 Return wrote:
Does dual dream still work tho? But an melee sorc guide does however look pretty nice. Especially that one with 69k dmg and 4.3k life o,ov me like! Ill check out a warcry barb to tho, thats a good char in all ways :/ same with enchantress. 110k damage per attack for the most high end dual dreamers Wow! share a snapshot ? I doubt I've ever seen one.
While melee sorc's look sexy, they aren't really that great. The damage you get from enchanting, plus fire mastery turns out that added a 5-15 fire dmg sc adds like 500-1.5k, but you cant even 1 hit a level 50 with them. (atleast the one i made =/).
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On April 02 2007 20:29 .kaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2007 12:29 madro wrote:On April 02 2007 11:18 Empyrean wrote:On April 02 2007 05:57 Return wrote:
Does dual dream still work tho? But an melee sorc guide does however look pretty nice. Especially that one with 69k dmg and 4.3k life o,ov me like! Ill check out a warcry barb to tho, thats a good char in all ways :/ same with enchantress. 110k damage per attack for the most high end dual dreamers Wow! share a snapshot ? I doubt I've ever seen one. While melee sorc's look sexy, they aren't really that great. The damage you get from enchanting, plus fire mastery turns out that added a 5-15 fire dmg sc adds like 500-1.5k, but you cant even 1 hit a level 50 with them. (atleast the one i made =/).
Thats why you make a sorc with dual dreams and max light mastery. Dual dreams = lvl 30 holy shock aura, and light mastery is doubled on melee weapons. The enchant is used for AR boost.
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are SoJs supposed to disappear the same day you got them?
I got a few yesterday on my mule and xferred to another char. An hour later they..... disappeared. I'm familiar with SoJs disappearing after a week of no trading but in an hour or less??
Anyone know why?
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Uh.. the same reason they disappear, or "poof" as it's known, they are all dupes?
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Should've guessed.
Well thats nice -_- just sojs or do other items disappear too?
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Every disced item disappears unless you perm them each game. I think they did some patch to stop perming, but as my D2EXP has been uninstalled for a year now I can't tell you for sure.
And I don't have any screens on me of some higher damage dual dreams.
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Enchantress is a lot of fun and can uber solo. Its not the strongest pvp build but excellent pvm.
Enchantress is most effective using duel dreams, dragon armor+hand of justice in a phase blade. This utilizes lvl 30 holy fire + lvl 30 holy shock using the synergies of lightning damage and fire damage that sorc's have. Use demon limb to enchant yourself, adding more fire damage and lots of attack rating. Synergize enchant, max lit/fire damage and then pump mana shield and synergies or fireball for an all around insaine charicter.
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I really want a double dream enchantress right now. Too bad I can't afford one
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i havent played in like a year...what does this runeword dream do? ss anyone?
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I forget exactly how it works, but from memory, there's two ways duped items poof:
The Warden uses a program called Random Ruststorm everytime you save/exit a game. It scans for dupes and deletes them. You are more likely to get caught if you are in a game with someone who has the same duped items as you. This is the more difficult and tricky way to poof items and it's not been 100% confirmed how it works. For example, I had a 400/37 Grief Phase Blade that I thought was perm because I had been joining/leaving games without it poofing. Just two weeks ago, I joined a game and another smiter and I kind of got competitive (but not in a rude way). We showed each other our items and interstingly enough, he had the same 400/37 Grief Phase Blade. I didn't think of it at the time, but when I joined another game, sure enough it disappeared. Really you can't 100% be sure that something isn't duped because even if someone joins/leaves the game a few times and the item doesn't disappear, it could just mean that Random Ruststorm didn't catch him.
ALSO, you can socket items to prevent Random Ruststorm from poofing your item, but this is where the next type of poofing happens.
About a few years ago (I forget now), Blizzard ran a Permanent COMPLETE Ruststorm where they deleted any duped item. It doesn't matter if you socket a rune or jewel. Complete Russtorm will delete it. Each item has a unique tag and socketing it won't remove that tag.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the best way to keep an item from poofing is to leave the "perm" the character, then leave it alone until you can trade it. Besides complete Ruststorm, items won't delete unless you save/exit a game. That means if the items are sitting on a mule and haven't disappeared yet, they will still be there the next time you join a game (in this case to trade it off).
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WHat does hr mean? And how do you know if somethings duped or not. When i played in 2004 there wasn't dupes besides a few so no worries but from reading this it sounds theres alot now?
And perming means to make a duped item no disappear?
Im gonna start this week anyone on tl have some free items or want to start together? Any gateway just no hardcore
Probably gonna make a mf necro with summon/corpse explosion or meteorb(or is blizzard better?)
Want to eventually make a hammerdin again. Should i start ladder or non which is easier to get rich. I want to be able to get enigma,hoto, hoz, cota.
and what is g rushing?
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hr means high rune (vex+)
you'll know when it disappears (most high runes are duped though)
i dont think theres any method to make a duped item not disappear. you just need to trade it off before it does.
grushing is when you rush a character to the next level of the game ignoring the ancient's level requirements. by grushing you can have a level one character in hell mode
i started playing east ladder because of this thread. too bad i havent been able to convince my old d2 friends to play the game again
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glitch rushing, otherwise known as grushing, is when you ignore the lvl requirements to finish normal and nightmare, in order to get to hell mode. This is done so that you can further rush to act 4 and do chaos sanctuary runs, leaching off of a high level charicter (most often a hammerdin) as they clear the sanctuary. You will litterally watch your exp bar shoot up with 9 levels a run not being uncommon.
To grush, you (the low level person in need of a grush) need 2 things.
1.) A party member capable of killing baal.
2.) A party member who is in need of the baal quest and MEETS the level requirements needed to kill baal legitly.
If both of these elements are present in a game, you can simply join the party with your low level charicter and sit in town while your party kills baal. When he is dead you also get credit, since a member of your party who had the level requirements needed the quest also. This is the glitch rush.
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You can't really tell if something is a dupe. You can just assume based on popular duped items. For example, I know that a few weeks ago a very heavily duped item was a 397/37 Grief Berserker Axe so I stayed away from trading for that. The only way to really avoid dupes is to find stuff on your own (guaranteed way, of course) or to trade for lower stat items. For example, you can almost be positive that a 350/31 Grief Berserker Axe won't be duped. Before you trade, you can also ask someone to join/leave a couple times without perming to see if the item poofs. That isn't 100% foolproof because sometimes items just won't disappear, as explained in my previous post.
Now, that brings us to the question of PERMING. Perming means you temporary "permament...ize" your item when you join/leave a game. To do this, you have to click on someone, enter the trade screen, click the accept button on/off real fast, hit Esc, and leave the game real fast.
Here are a list of Most Probably Duped Items:
3 max damage / 20 attack rating / 20 life small charms aka 3/20/20
5 resist / 20 life small charms aka 5/20
Perfect BerBer Crown of Ages (that means 31% Damage Reduction)
High stat (damage and increased attack speed) Grief Berserker (up to 400 damage and 40 ias)
High stat Call to Arms (normally +4-6 BO)
Skill charms (i.e. Paladin Combat, Lightning, Fire, etc.)
Basically, all of the good items you want to watch out for.
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On April 04 2007 11:13 TheosEx wrote:
Here are a list of Most Probably Duped Items:
3 max damage / 20 attack rating / 20 life small charms aka 3/20/20
5 resist / 20 life small charms aka 5/20
Perfect BerBer Crown of Ages (that means 31% Damage Reduction)
High stat (damage and increased attack speed) Grief Berserker (up to 400 damage and 40 ias)
High stat Call to Arms (normally +4-6 BO)
Skill charms (i.e. Paladin Combat, Lightning, Fire, etc.)
Basically, all of the good items you want to watch out for.
520s and berber CoAs aren't duped that much. Neither are high CtAs (which pisses me off because I insisted on making my own when I actually got the runes...1bo. useless as hell) or skillers. I'd say more common are high griefs, all the rare items (have storm circlets been haxed by blizzard yet? They were really popular about a year ago), bTals (have they been haxed as well? I've been away so I don't know if blizz fixed the problem yet), 12020s, etc.
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40/15 jewels used to be duped alot, since you could just dupe and socket, as long as you had a non-duped 5os zerk (crazy dmg for zeal, ww, and psn strike). I dunno runewords might do more dmg now, but this was definitely popular when I played.
On April 04 2007 11:51 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2007 11:13 TheosEx wrote:
Here are a list of Most Probably Duped Items:
3 max damage / 20 attack rating / 20 life small charms aka 3/20/20
5 resist / 20 life small charms aka 5/20
Perfect BerBer Crown of Ages (that means 31% Damage Reduction)
High stat (damage and increased attack speed) Grief Berserker (up to 400 damage and 40 ias)
High stat Call to Arms (normally +4-6 BO)
Skill charms (i.e. Paladin Combat, Lightning, Fire, etc.)
Basically, all of the good items you want to watch out for. 520s and berber CoAs aren't duped that much. Neither are high CtAs (which pisses me off because I insisted on making my own when I actually got the runes...1bo. useless as hell) or skillers. I'd say more common are high griefs, all the rare items (have storm circlets been haxed by blizzard yet? They were really popular about a year ago), bTals (have they been haxed as well? I've been away so I don't know if blizz fixed the problem yet), 12020s, etc.
Heh back when I played, cta's were rarely duped, so I got really rich on ladder off making my own cta's, cuz I'd usually get 3-4 bo, and trade that for 4 hr or so, enough to make 2 more cta's and then when I got 6 bo cta's, it was like jackpot, because I could auction those for like 8-9 hr's easily. But yeah duping them would've been much easier.
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40/15's were duped alot until word came out that it doesn't work with most of the characters (Barbarians, Paladins, and Druids I think). It works only for like an Amazon, if I remember correctly. Some kind of bug that doesn't allow ED/Max Damage to work together on a jewel... probably hasn't been fixed yet...
Anyways, almost anything can be duped. That's all I'm saying.
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anyone knows when the new season is comin?
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Starting d2 lod anyone willing to give me some frees and advice?
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On April 08 2007 03:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Starting d2 lod anyone willing to give me some frees and advice?
i might have some random shit i can give you, it wont be great or anything though ><
i'm on useast, i'll be on later today
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I'll pm you when i get on. Trying to make a hammerdin.
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hammerdin isnt the best character if u just started the game, as it's at the beggining of the topic you should make a mf sorc
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hammerdin can be really frustrating without the proper gear.
I too would suggest a sorc. Probably blizz-synergy.
I love lightning syn sorcs though. My favorite to play.
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