EPTThinking about it it seems quite logical in fact. I had notably hAdji in mind but he's over at EnVy, the rest of EnVy Academy is probably out of the question, and the rest is either not on his level or way too young maybe.
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Ragnarork
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Thinking about it it seems quite logical in fact. I had notably hAdji in mind but he's over at EnVy, the rest of EnVy Academy is probably out of the question, and the rest is either not on his level or way too young maybe. | ||
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nukem1
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Think he is a pretty good fit and might actually revitalise the team. On the other hand, if this experiment doesn't work we might see forest and GTR break their partnership and even leave NiP. If I remember correctly, the reason he left Godsent was "lack of motivation", which shouldn't be a problem/excuse here. NiP always demands results. (Yes, for a long time they were reluctant to make changes, seems they got the memo now. ) He knows the players and even his own style is similar to what the NiP name is known for, somewhat loose tactics, working off chemistry and player inspiration. Hopefully pita will do some work and provide useful info. I guess only time will tell. | ||
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On February 14 2018 16:24 juvenal wrote: Thing is Forest and GTR are not that good anymore, the NiP project as we knew it is over. The duo could work in support roles behind some hotter names but their ability to carry a team is long gone. If I were to make predictions, a couple of semi-finals appearances in bigger tournaments is the best case scenario. I'm not saying that they should be the stars of the team, that time has passed, I agree. But I believe there's still some magic in those old bones and, you know what, semi-finals and upset potential over top 5 teams is good enough for me. | ||
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I dont think there is much in the lineup personally but I kinda hope those two grow and they do well. | ||
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On February 15 2018 00:35 juvenal wrote: I mean guys like Flusha and JW who hypothetically instead of wasting their time with GODSENT could've gone to NiP. Flusha and JW arent massive upgrades of Rez and Draken. And they dont have as much upside anymore. Heck the best player on their own team atm is Krimz. | ||
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On February 15 2018 01:36 juvenal wrote: Well I disagree, I think Flusha and JW are world class. Both not at their best atm, but even that is way above what Rez and Draken can do. Not at their best for 2 years? | ||
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On February 15 2018 17:11 juvenal wrote: Two years, you mean since they last won a major? They were both at a cosmic level back then, top10 in the world for sure. You don't need to be top10 to be massively better than REZ and draken. Again, let's agree to disagree. Lol not a major, its been two years since they won anything. Its been way longer for a major. It was just a matter of time before structured teams got on their aim and teamwork level. You can fanboy it away all you want, Rez and Draken have more upside than Flusha for sure, JW will have his moments. Even Lekro is better than JW and flusha atm. I mean the bottom line is, Swedes arent elite level anymore for a while now. They are just dark horses. | ||
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On February 15 2018 17:11 juvenal wrote: Two years, you mean since they last won a major? They were both at a cosmic level back then, top10 in the world for sure. You don't need to be top10 to be massively better than REZ and draken. Again, let's agree to disagree. the rules of time don't seem to apply to you. draken has over the last year easily outperformed Jw. completely irrelevant who they were years ago. | ||
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juvenal
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On February 16 2018 19:41 Hider wrote: the rules of time don't seem to apply to you. wtf is this supposed to mean? Time moving forward? Yeah, I'm aware of that. Past being completely irrelevant, as you claim? Where exactly did you get that "rule of time" from? | ||
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On February 16 2018 21:02 nukem1 wrote: You guys must be really great at parties... no need to beat someone over the head for having a different opinion. Ofcourse the most original (did you come up with that one all baah yosulf?) weaselly way created by the internet to make a point without making making a point rears its expected head. There is no need to do alot of things. Either contribute or chill with the back seating. | ||
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nukem1
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On February 16 2018 22:57 Rebs wrote: Ofcourse the most original (did you come up with that one all baah yosulf?) weaselly way created by the internet to make a point without making making a point rears its expected head. There is no need to do alot of things. Either contribute or chill with the back seating. Oh wow, I'm being called out over the internet. I am the reason the conversation starter, dear sir. If you would kindly scroll up, you would see that I opened the discussion about dennis to NiP and how this might impact the team. I waited to see other opinions but then you started arguing with juvenal and because i felt like it was, in part, my fault I wanted to de-escalate the situation. I apologize if my comment was not as "original" as for your liking, I will try my best next time. I don't know if you think your condescending tone gives you more authority or what, but I don't appreciate it. | ||
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On February 16 2018 23:47 nukem1 wrote: Oh wow, I'm being called out over the internet. I am the reason the conversation starter, dear sir. If you would kindly scroll up, you would see that I opened the discussion about dennis to NiP and how this might impact the team. I waited to see other opinions but then you started arguing with juvenal and because i felt like it was, in part, my fault I wanted to de-escalate the situation. I apologize if my comment was not as "original" as for your liking, I will try my best next time. I don't know if you think your condescending tone gives you more authority or what, but I don't appreciate it. No i am just being condescending because I can. You offered the opportunity, I took it It was not meant to be appreciated, something would be wrong with you, if you did. And since we are in learning time repeating my retort by adding an "oh wow" at the begging doesn't add quite the amount of rhetorical wit you perhaps anticipate it does. It frankly doesnt matter what you felt, responsible or whatever, you stepped in with a shit comment that was patronizing and got what you deserved. If that was your idea of de escalating, yes please do try to do better, because if that was your best it was pretty miserable. I expect you will learn your lesson. Or well I guess you wont. There's some added condescension for ya. | ||
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You obviously did not understand the words or the meaning behind them. You can have another go, they're still there. Well, "since we are in learning time", let's see what we can learn. No (comma), i am just being condescending because I can. You offered the opportunity, I took it Allow me to take this opportunity. It was not meant to be appreciated, something would be wrong with you, if you did. And since we are in learning time (comma), repeating my retort by adding an "oh wow" at the begging doesn't add quite the amount of rhetorical wit you perhaps anticipate it does. I did not "repeat" your "retort". You mean quoted? Even so, I did not add anything to your answer. You must not be good at reading either. That's your opinion about how much "rhetorical wit" it had. You see, the difference is that I can accept that you have an opinion about me, and I do not feel the need to try and convince you to change it. It frankly doesn(apostrophe)t matter what you felt, responsible or whatever, you stepped in with a shit comment that was patronizing and got what you deserved. You get a cookie for perceiving that there was a slight amount of patronizing in my comment (which I tried to counteract with the latter part of the comment, maybe I failed there), but I have to take it back because I wasn't doing it out of spite like you. I got what I deserved? Pray, what is that? If that was your idea of de escalating, yes (comma), please do try to do better, because if that was your best (comma), it was pretty miserable. I expect you will learn your lesson. Or (comma), well (comma or ellipses),/... I guess you wont. I guess I won't learn my lesson, just as how you won't. There's some added condescension for ya. Thank you. Can we be friends now? | ||
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Denmark9433 Posts
On February 16 2018 20:57 juvenal wrote: Draken outperformed JW? How much did he outperform JW yesterday when he went -10 in 2 maps, while JW had +10? The relevance of 2 years ago is that it shows JW's ceiling being skyhigh. Draken dreams about such level. Right now both fluctuate around 1.10 rating, the only difference is draken's earned that rating playing against teams in Europe minor qualifications as opposed to JW playing against world class teams. wtf is this supposed to mean? Time moving forward? Yeah, I'm aware of that. Past being completely irrelevant, as you claim? Where exactly did you get that "rule of time" from? eh besides basic logic. Try bookmakers odds. When a teams performance drops, it doesn't matter who the names are. The odds on the team drops. E.g. Virtus Pro underdogs against mousesports. Or ofc there is also the fact that I am doing a ton of statistical modelling intended to predict performance, but really that shouldn't be neccasary to mention in this case. But hey man, I guess neo and taz are the best players in the world. And then f0rest and get right also top 4. S1mple is terrible because he wasn't good 4 years ago. Yep. | ||
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