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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 26 2016 19:19 GMT
#1521
On August 27 2016 04:12 Retose wrote:
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On August 27 2016 04:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
here i am siting with two gyaradaos, the highest iv of which having twister, and reading about a guy complaining about getting 6 gyarados at five levels below me. life is hard.

and KBB can just get the fuck out right now with his lapras spawning in his house bullshit. ;-)


Am I reading this right that I should feel lucky about being able to evolve 6 gyarados' all with bad moves, just cause I'm 5 levels below you?
Because that's pretty much where I put all my hope in for getting good pokémon to take gyms... well over 600 magikarps caught and not a good pokémon to speak of

I'm sure instead of those 600 magikarps you've actually caught something useful at some point whereas I have not

you should feel lucky you have a readily available magikarp/dratini spawnpoint, and stop with the grass is greener bs.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 26 2016 19:31 GMT
#1522
On August 27 2016 04:12 Retose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 04:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
here i am siting with two gyaradaos, the highest iv of which having twister, and reading about a guy complaining about getting 6 gyarados at five levels below me. life is hard.

and KBB can just get the fuck out right now with his lapras spawning in his house bullshit. ;-)


Am I reading this right that I should feel lucky about being able to evolve 6 gyarados' all with bad moves, just cause I'm 5 levels below you?
Because that's pretty much where I put all my hope in for getting good pokémon to take gyms... well over 600 magikarps caught and not a good pokémon to speak of

I'm sure instead of those 600 magikarps you've actually caught something useful at some point whereas I have not


For what it's worth Dragon Pulse on Gyarados isn't that bad of a move. It's going to always be on par for damage against dragon types like Dragonite and against pokes resistant to water (but not vulnerable to dragon) it has potential to deal good practical DPS (see discussions above about 1 bar specials).
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Retose
Profile Joined August 2016
5 Posts
August 26 2016 20:17 GMT
#1523
On August 27 2016 04:31 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 04:12 Retose wrote:
On August 27 2016 04:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
here i am siting with two gyaradaos, the highest iv of which having twister, and reading about a guy complaining about getting 6 gyarados at five levels below me. life is hard.

and KBB can just get the fuck out right now with his lapras spawning in his house bullshit. ;-)


Am I reading this right that I should feel lucky about being able to evolve 6 gyarados' all with bad moves, just cause I'm 5 levels below you?
Because that's pretty much where I put all my hope in for getting good pokémon to take gyms... well over 600 magikarps caught and not a good pokémon to speak of

I'm sure instead of those 600 magikarps you've actually caught something useful at some point whereas I have not


For what it's worth Dragon Pulse on Gyarados isn't that bad of a move. It's going to always be on par for damage against dragon types like Dragonite and against pokes resistant to water (but not vulnerable to dragon) it has potential to deal good practical DPS (see discussions above about 1 bar specials).


I would've been content powering one up if it had dragon breath + dragon pulse to take out dragonites... but seeing as that is no longer possible now... (they both had bite + dragon pulse) but maybe I should just go with that over farming more Magikarp, praying for that hydro pump

As to the "readily available Dratini spawnpoint": it took me over a month of rolling about 4 km twice a day along the canal to get enough to evolve one with the poor movesets, and with the summer holiday ending I'm really not willing to spend the time to keep farming that for another one or to get candy to power that one up

"Stop with the grass is greener bs" you were the one to jump right onto me with a grass is greener comment, so please stop with that 'bs' yourself

I just would really like a couple more decent pokémon to take the gym(s) with my friends, and I currently don't see how I can contribute well with more than my 2 poliwraths
I wanted to vent about that, and contemplate whether I should give up, keep trying, or try my hardest to put my min-maxing desire away and just power up some pokémon with unideal movesets
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 26 2016 21:05 GMT
#1524
I'm nowhere near a Gyrados or Poliwrath

Do whatever makes you feel good. I like to try to meet up with friends, doing gyms solo sucks. If having the absolute ideal best pokemon is your goal then you just have to accept its going to suck for a very long time.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 26 2016 21:09 GMT
#1525
I'd kill to get Magikarp spawns regularly. Its super rare in my city. I pray every 2km egg is magikarp

And Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite have only ever been spotted in lures or incense. Nobody I know or have talked too has encountered a wild one
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Retose
Profile Joined August 2016
5 Posts
August 26 2016 22:32 GMT
#1526
Yeah sorry, I realize you guys aren't having an easy time either, I just felt really disheartened after getting yet another twister on my 6th gyarados... and he was 100% IV!

I'm not counting on having the absolute ideal best pokémon, I realize I won't get that snorlax, lapras, vaporeon, arcanine, exeggutor, blastoise, venusaur or high cp/ideal dragonite

right now I would be happy with a hydro pump gyarados (or a water gun+psychic 70%+ IV slowbro) and I just feel very unmotivated that after so many attempts I've failed to get that (I really struggle with letting go and just powering up a pokemon that's 20% weaker than it's potential)

but good luck guys! thanks for letting me vent a bit
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 26 2016 23:10 GMT
#1527
On August 27 2016 07:32 Retose wrote:
Yeah sorry, I realize you guys aren't having an easy time either, I just felt really disheartened after getting yet another twister on my 6th gyarados... and he was 100% IV!

I'm not counting on having the absolute ideal best pokémon, I realize I won't get that snorlax, lapras, vaporeon, arcanine, exeggutor, blastoise, venusaur or high cp/ideal dragonite

right now I would be happy with a hydro pump gyarados (or a water gun+psychic 70%+ IV slowbro) and I just feel very unmotivated that after so many attempts I've failed to get that (I really struggle with letting go and just powering up a pokemon that's 20% weaker than it's potential)

but good luck guys! thanks for letting me vent a bit

No worries man, if it isn't worth it, it's not worth it! You had your bit and you move on Don't let a game ruin things.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 23:57:11
August 26 2016 23:53 GMT
#1528
On August 27 2016 03:55 Retose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 00:21 Dante08 wrote:
I think this game hates me, lvl 20 and only caught 77 and seen 83. Never got a sighting of snorlax, dragonite, gyrados etc. Rarest seen are blastoise and venusaur which both ran away. Seen another venusaur today, fed a berry and it but ran away after FIRST ultra ball. 2 10k eggs gave me an electabuzz and dratini.



you think your luck is bad? then mine is damn awful...

long time lurker, but I really feel like venting right now... I don't like complaining but I'm very very close to quitting at this point

+ Show Spoiler +

So where do I begin, I'm level 22,5 by now, I've caught 65 seen 65 (so yeah, I definitely got it worse) tracker never showed me anything I haven't caught by now
Have had plenty of <200 CP pokemon flee on me after throwing great throw great ball + berry on them (I had tons of berry's and 0 pokéball) which includes pidgey's, poliwags, slowpokes, you name it

I've hatched 78 eggs so far in 223.11 km, have 9x 2 km eggs in my bag
I've only gotten 1x 10 km egg in the first 9 eggs, which hatched a ~75% IV dratini
I've visited 1884 pokestops and I have 0 pokéball left (no, I barely miss other than when they deflect while the ball is flying, and I throw great throws more than 50% of the time), 5 great balls and 9 ultra balls (50 berries)
I've tossed out more than a 1000 revives/potions at this point

There's only 1 gym within 3 km at least (I'm in a wheelchair so no, I'm not going to travel further)

I've used all my incense and lures and the best pokémon I've seen spawn from it was a squirtle, other than that nothing but rattata/pidgey/weedle/goldeen/magikarp/poliwag/zubat/psyduck/caterpie/spearow and 2nd tier evolves plus drowzee, venonat (might've missed a couple but not many)

I really really really want decent pokémon to fight at my closest gym
from my 2 km eggs I've only gotten 1 bulbasaur, 1 squirtle, 0 charmander, 0 pikachu
literally the only fire pokemon I have is my beginner 12 cp charmander
the only grass pokemon I have is a bulbasaur, an oddish, and a bellsprout
I (fortunately) live near water, so at least water pokemon spawn, including a lot of magikarp, poliwag, slowpoke, goldeen, psyduck, staryu

I've caught a grand total of 3 eevee's... which I read everywhere are supposed to be very common

(I'm a big min-maxer in any game I play btw)

So at least maybe I'd get a decent gyarados or something right? Wrong

I've evolved a gyarados 6 times by now (all 90%+ IV), 4 twisters and 2 bite + dragon pulse
Today I evolved my 100% IV Magikarp, my first and only 100% IV pokémon, into a bite + twister
I honestly felt like throwing my phone across my room...

I haven't caught a single psyduck with over 40% IV, not a single poliwag either, nor a slowpoke over 50%
The 2 slowpokes from eggs (71% and 77%) got water gun + water pulse/ice beam

The only 2 decent pokémon (with the right movesets) are two poliwraths (80% and 83%) evolved after hatching

A few days ago, after a long long time chasing dratini candy, I finally evolved a dragonite from a 93% dratini, only to have steel wing and dragon claw... which hurt my min max mentality right in the gut
I don't even have enough candy to power up him (only 800 CP) and I don't know if I even should...

If anyone bothered to read my rant, why should I even bother to keep playing right now? Just pray my 7th gyarados will finally have hydro pump?! I just want a couple more good pokémons for taking my gym (or other gyms if I ever happen to go to a city) other than my 2 poliwraths... what would my best option be to get another decent gym attacking pokémon?

100% magikarp evolves with bite and twister.. lol!
Seriously though, I found a similar thing when i'm collecting my poliwags/slowpokes, none of them would go over like 60% IV and I have over 800 poliwag can and 400 slowpoke candy now. I think the area I find them in is considered a nest or something so Niantic prevents it from going above a certain IV, you need to find them in another place to have a good IV.

Anyway keep playing man, don't let some back luck get you down. I hatched a lapras with frost breath/blizzard (best move set) with 80%+ IV from a 10km egg and it made me so happy.

Also, don't power up pokemon with crappy movesets, you'll regret it later. Especially not dragonite. However, Niantic is still patching the game and movesets so who knows, maybe bite+twister will become the best moves?


Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 27 2016 00:52 GMT
#1529
Seriously though, I found a similar thing when i'm collecting my poliwags/slowpokes, none of them would go over like 60% IV and I have over 800 poliwag can and 400 slowpoke candy now. I think the area I find them in is considered a nest or something so Niantic prevents it from going above a certain IV, you need to find them in another place to have a good IV.


For common pokes like that I keep an eye out for any high CP (max level for your level) one. When I have enough candy to evolve 2 I'll just take it (regardless of IV) and evolve it and there you go instant fighting pokemon. I figure if I can't find a high IV in the time it takes me to get enough candy for 2 evolutions it's exceedingly unlikely for me to find 2+ 90% IVs in the time it takes me to back the candy I spent on the evolution.

So sure yeah my Poliwrath is weak, but I can evolve a second one the second I find a good IV one and in the meantime I have a 1400CP Poliwrath (highest I could get at the time I evolved it) to battle with.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4132 Posts
August 27 2016 08:02 GMT
#1530
On August 27 2016 03:55 Retose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 00:21 Dante08 wrote:
I think this game hates me, lvl 20 and only caught 77 and seen 83. Never got a sighting of snorlax, dragonite, gyrados etc. Rarest seen are blastoise and venusaur which both ran away. Seen another venusaur today, fed a berry and it but ran away after FIRST ultra ball. 2 10k eggs gave me an electabuzz and dratini.



you think your luck is bad? then mine is damn awful...

long time lurker, but I really feel like venting right now... I don't like complaining but I'm very very close to quitting at this point

+ Show Spoiler +

So where do I begin, I'm level 22,5 by now, I've caught 65 seen 65 (so yeah, I definitely got it worse) tracker never showed me anything I haven't caught by now
Have had plenty of <200 CP pokemon flee on me after throwing great throw great ball + berry on them (I had tons of berry's and 0 pokéball) which includes pidgey's, poliwags, slowpokes, you name it

I've hatched 78 eggs so far in 223.11 km, have 9x 2 km eggs in my bag
I've only gotten 1x 10 km egg in the first 9 eggs, which hatched a ~75% IV dratini
I've visited 1884 pokestops and I have 0 pokéball left (no, I barely miss other than when they deflect while the ball is flying, and I throw great throws more than 50% of the time), 5 great balls and 9 ultra balls (50 berries)
I've tossed out more than a 1000 revives/potions at this point

There's only 1 gym within 3 km at least (I'm in a wheelchair so no, I'm not going to travel further)

I've used all my incense and lures and the best pokémon I've seen spawn from it was a squirtle, other than that nothing but rattata/pidgey/weedle/goldeen/magikarp/poliwag/zubat/psyduck/caterpie/spearow and 2nd tier evolves plus drowzee, venonat (might've missed a couple but not many)

I really really really want decent pokémon to fight at my closest gym
from my 2 km eggs I've only gotten 1 bulbasaur, 1 squirtle, 0 charmander, 0 pikachu
literally the only fire pokemon I have is my beginner 12 cp charmander
the only grass pokemon I have is a bulbasaur, an oddish, and a bellsprout
I (fortunately) live near water, so at least water pokemon spawn, including a lot of magikarp, poliwag, slowpoke, goldeen, psyduck, staryu

I've caught a grand total of 3 eevee's... which I read everywhere are supposed to be very common

(I'm a big min-maxer in any game I play btw)

So at least maybe I'd get a decent gyarados or something right? Wrong

I've evolved a gyarados 6 times by now (all 90%+ IV), 4 twisters and 2 bite + dragon pulse
Today I evolved my 100% IV Magikarp, my first and only 100% IV pokémon, into a bite + twister
I honestly felt like throwing my phone across my room...

I haven't caught a single psyduck with over 40% IV, not a single poliwag either, nor a slowpoke over 50%
The 2 slowpokes from eggs (71% and 77%) got water gun + water pulse/ice beam

The only 2 decent pokémon (with the right movesets) are two poliwraths (80% and 83%) evolved after hatching

A few days ago, after a long long time chasing dratini candy, I finally evolved a dragonite from a 93% dratini, only to have steel wing and dragon claw... which hurt my min max mentality right in the gut
I don't even have enough candy to power up him (only 800 CP) and I don't know if I even should...

If anyone bothered to read my rant, why should I even bother to keep playing right now? Just pray my 7th gyarados will finally have hydro pump?! I just want a couple more good pokémons for taking my gym (or other gyms if I ever happen to go to a city) other than my 2 poliwraths... what would my best option be to get another decent gym attacking pokémon?


Haha that sounds worse, but keep playing on! Right after I caught a cp 47 dragonite both my 5km eggs hatched a poliwag and slowpoke with pretty good ivs which i evolved to pretty good movesets. Your luck will change sooner or later
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 27 2016 11:03 GMT
#1531
I think my account might be bugged, I haven't found a rare pokemon in the last 20 hours
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 27 2016 13:39 GMT
#1532
On August 27 2016 20:03 KadaverBB wrote:
I think my account might be bugged, I haven't found a rare pokemon in the last 20 hours

._.

You're a turd KBB You can't have Laprases spawning in your house every day.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 27 2016 15:54 GMT
#1533
It unbugged, found a 1,4k Scyther :D
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 27 2016 15:55 GMT
#1534
On August 28 2016 00:54 KadaverBB wrote:
It unbugged, found a 1,4k Scyther :D

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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 27 2016 16:59 GMT
#1535
this is KBB: http://imgur.com/a/zV6Kw
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 27 2016 17:03 GMT
#1536
Heh I am not quite that lucky. I actually have to leave the house to catch my stuff
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
sundayyy
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada12 Posts
August 27 2016 17:34 GMT
#1537
Dear Pokemasters, is there a way to determine the CP of an evolved form from the CP of its non-evolved form? (e.g. 526 CP Drowzee -> ??? CP Hypno) Or is it just the higher the base CP, the higher the final CP? Does it depend on trainer level? Or IVs?
Plus on juge, moins on aime.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
August 27 2016 17:49 GMT
#1538
On August 28 2016 02:34 sundayyy wrote:
Dear Pokemasters, is there a way to determine the CP of an evolved form from the CP of its non-evolved form? (e.g. 526 CP Drowzee -> ??? CP Hypno) Or is it just the higher the base CP, the higher the final CP? Does it depend on trainer level? Or IVs?



Higher base CP will turn into a higher final CP and it is fixed.

For example a magikarp evolving into a gya will be karp current CP x11.(150CP karp will turn into a 1650CP gya)
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WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
August 27 2016 18:11 GMT
#1539
Found 2 Lapras' the past 2 workdays. One in the morning, one in the night one was ???, which I haven't seen since I was level 20 (27 now). Ended up being 2183 (63.3%)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
August 27 2016 18:20 GMT
#1540
On August 28 2016 03:11 WonnaPlay wrote:
Found 2 Lapras' the past 2 workdays. One in the morning, one in the night one was ???, which I haven't seen since I was level 20 (27 now). Ended up being 2183 (63.3%)

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