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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 24 2016 09:41 GMT
#341
On April 24 2016 10:38 DickMcFanny wrote:
Wow, this game is kicking my ass like no Souls game before, although I've only gotten to the Grave Watchers.

That said, this is the prettiest game I've seen in my life, and the music blows me away.

By the way, did I miss anything at Firelink Shrine? Why can't I walk to the first area? I can only teleport there.


yeah this confused me too lol.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
April 24 2016 16:41 GMT
#342
Today was the first time someone invaded me.
We were on similar skill levels and the fight was pretty even. Both of us died at the same time (I got nothing from it though).
After I died I went back to gather my souls from the ground and then it happened. A blue Sentinel appeared. But of course there was no invader anymore, so he left pretty soon. Better late then never I suppose
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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
April 24 2016 18:18 GMT
#343
Just started playing today, level 19 Herald. I am at the bonefire right after you see a dragon breathing fire from above on top of a tower. I had to avoid the warrior wielding the shield to get to the bonfire, just could not kill him. Tried to play a while, for like two hours, as I went downstairs from the bonefire and then further down.

I got stuck here. I go down a ladder, and there are two archers and two melee fighters that I easily take out. However, as I go further from the doorway near the ladder, there's a fighter with shield+spear that I just cannot take out. Even worse, I fell down when he was charging and died below, all my souls are down there.

First time playing a a Souls game. Any tips would be immensely appreciated
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 19:20:23
April 24 2016 19:14 GMT
#344
On April 25 2016 03:18 Bleak wrote:
Just started playing today, level 19 Herald. I am at the bonefire right after you see a dragon breathing fire from above on top of a tower. I had to avoid the warrior wielding the shield to get to the bonfire, just could not kill him. Tried to play a while, for like two hours, as I went downstairs from the bonefire and then further down.

I got stuck here. I go down a ladder, and there are two archers and two melee fighters that I easily take out. However, as I go further from the doorway near the ladder, there's a fighter with shield+spear that I just cannot take out. Even worse, I fell down when he was charging and died below, all my souls are down there.

First time playing a a Souls game. Any tips would be immensely appreciated


+ Show Spoiler +
This is what I usually find to be the easy way to deal with those guys. Just lock on and strafe around them in small circle waiting for openings while keeping your shield up, eventually they will swing their weapon and if they miss you get a free attack in or even a back stab.

If he doesn't miss his swing just play the waiting game, you will get your chance. You do want a 100% physical resistance shield for this though.


Edit: Nvm my advice doesn't actually work on those guys tested it, they shield bash too much. :D

I'm sure I beat a lot of Knight enemies like this though...
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 19:15:05
April 24 2016 19:14 GMT
#345
On April 25 2016 03:18 Bleak wrote:
Just started playing today, level 19 Herald. I am at the bonefire right after you see a dragon breathing fire from above on top of a tower. I had to avoid the warrior wielding the shield to get to the bonfire, just could not kill him. Tried to play a while, for like two hours, as I went downstairs from the bonefire and then further down.

I got stuck here. I go down a ladder, and there are two archers and two melee fighters that I easily take out. However, as I go further from the doorway near the ladder, there's a fighter with shield+spear that I just cannot take out. Even worse, I fell down when he was charging and died below, all my souls are down there.

First time playing a a Souls game. Any tips would be immensely appreciated


Technically that area is optional. You can go back to where the 2 archers were down the ladder and there is another ladder that goes down to the winged knight.

If you can fight through though, there are some nice goodies on the other side of that spear knight. + Show Spoiler +
An estus shard, the broadsword, and the key to the thief npc in the jail cell in particular.


My advice for fighting him is try to fish backstabs by sticking to him like glue and strafing around him. Be careful going counter clockwise b/c his shield bash is annoying. That or stand at a distance and roll at him to the side as he charges you. He will be stopped for a moment allowing you to hit him at worst, backstab at best.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 19:15:44
April 24 2016 19:14 GMT
#346
On April 25 2016 03:18 Bleak wrote:
Just started playing today, level 19 Herald. I am at the bonefire right after you see a dragon breathing fire from above on top of a tower. I had to avoid the warrior wielding the shield to get to the bonfire, just could not kill him. Tried to play a while, for like two hours, as I went downstairs from the bonefire and then further down.

I got stuck here. I go down a ladder, and there are two archers and two melee fighters that I easily take out. However, as I go further from the doorway near the ladder, there's a fighter with shield+spear that I just cannot take out. Even worse, I fell down when he was charging and died below, all my souls are down there.

First time playing a a Souls game. Any tips would be immensely appreciated


Welcome to Dark Souls! You're gonna die. A lot.

For newbies it is generally recommended to go for a strength build on your first playthough. Strength builds put a lot of points into strength, vigor and endurance.
+ Show Spoiler [Stat explanation] +

Vigor is your hit points, I recommend you go up to 27 very quickly, that will put you square at 1000 hit points.
Endurance is your green bar, stamina. It governs your actions - dodge, block, swininging, casting spells.
Strength and Dexterity are offensive stats for weapons. Weapons have minimum stat requirements, and scale (gain damage) with these 2 stats ranging from E (worst) through D-C-B-A-S (best). Most weapons scale from a combination of both STR and DEX, but most of the time 1 is clearly better than the other.

Faith governs magic called miracles. Usually defensive in natures such a healing, increased defense and such. Although there are offensive spells as well. You need a "talisman" to cast miracles. Lightning is its forte.
Intelligence governs magic called sorcery. Offensive magics you cast with a staff called a "catalyst". Damage type is usually Magic.
Attunement increases your FPs (focus points or mana points) and increases the number of spells you can equip at the bonfire.

Vitality increases your carry weigh and defenses, albeit very slightly. On that note, try to be under 70% carry weigh. Carry weigh determines your "roll speed" - dodges.
under 30% - fast roll with double range,
under 70% is a fast roll
and over 70%, a fat roll.
Each roll has different i-frames or invincibility frames. They make you immune to damage from attacks. You should never be over 70% weigh, and getting to under 30% is a big chore which usually only casters go for.

Finally you have Luck - stat that governs item discovery and bleed damage. Do not bother with this at all. There are very few niche builds centered around this but for very specific weapons and playstyles.


Now you shouldn't obsess about strength and dex weapon damage early, since early on upgrading your weapons does a hell of a lot more for you can putting a point or 2 in stats. You can "reinforce" weapons at Andre, the blacksmith. You can also "infuse" into different elements, the very same weapons.
If you take my advice and go for a strength build you'll want to infuse your weapon with a heavy gem. This will make them scale better with strength than previously, but you'll lose dexterity scaling (worth it for strength builds).

Make sure to collect estus shards and undead bone shards. Estus shards are given to Andre and increase the number of potions at your disposal. Undead bone shards you burn at the Firelink Shrine Bonfire and they increase how much HP is restored per potion.
On that note, you can allot the number of potions of each type you want at the smithy, you want all Estus, 0 Ashen.

For enemy strategy you can either play with a shield and try to block most of it, or 2-hand your weapon and bait attacks and get a hit in, and back away.

Lothric Knights are pretty insane early on. You need to watch and manage your stamina (green bar) a lot vs them. They can break your guard with relentless attacks so I'd suggest just 2-handing and trying to kill them with R1 spam. Or you can throw firebombs at them to break their guard for a moment.

Early weapons that are good are the "Deep Battle Axe" you find inside a treasure chest under the fire-breathing wyvern, a run-of-the-mill "Longsword", or a raw-infused "Astora's Sword". You can find all 3 in the zone you're in now, just look around.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7046 Posts
April 24 2016 20:10 GMT
#347
i am getting my ass handed to me repeatedly by + Show Spoiler +
champion gundyr

AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 20:53:57
April 24 2016 20:53 GMT
#348
Those early Lothric Knights actually get staggered really easily so imo it is better to be aggressive with them and just dodge roll forward and swing away at them. I think shield kicking wasn't bad either. I think a lot of enemies in this game early on are confidence checks. + Show Spoiler +
The wyvern in the first area's fire hardly does that much damage to you if you just roll through it for example.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
April 25 2016 07:39 GMT
#349
On April 25 2016 05:10 tehh4ck3r wrote:
i am getting my ass handed to me repeatedly by + Show Spoiler +
champion gundyr



Learning his parry timings can help a lot.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
April 25 2016 08:59 GMT
#350
Hey all,

i got some generel questions i hope you can help me with

1. On which plattform is it best? I got a PC and a PS4 at my disposal
2. If I wanna play on PC, is mouse+keyboard or controller better? And maybe which controller/ what kind?

I'm more of a PC player in generel, just playin FIFA on PS4

3. This would be my first Soul game, is it really important to play DS 1 and 2 or can i start with DS3? I'm not much of a story/ lore person, just wanna play for the mechanics mainly
4. Which one is the hardest DS?
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Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
April 25 2016 09:06 GMT
#351
On April 25 2016 17:59 Harris1st wrote:
Hey all,

i got some generel questions i hope you can help me with

1. On which plattform is it best? I got a PC and a PS4 at my disposal
2. If I wanna play on PC, is mouse+keyboard or controller better? And maybe which controller/ what kind?

I'm more of a PC player in generel, just playin FIFA on PS4

3. This would be my first Soul game, is it really important to play DS 1 and 2 or can i start with DS3? I'm not much of a story/ lore person, just wanna play for the mechanics mainly
4. Which one is the hardest DS?


1. PC is best due to higher framerate. But your PC has to be good enough.
2. Play with gamepad. I use a xbox360 pad for example.
3. It's fine to start with DS3.
4. I'd say DS1 because it had less bonfires and it was my first Souls game.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
April 25 2016 10:43 GMT
#352
On April 25 2016 17:59 Harris1st wrote:
Hey all,

i got some generel questions i hope you can help me with

1. On which plattform is it best? I got a PC and a PS4 at my disposal
2. If I wanna play on PC, is mouse+keyboard or controller better? And maybe which controller/ what kind?

I'm more of a PC player in generel, just playin FIFA on PS4

3. This would be my first Soul game, is it really important to play DS 1 and 2 or can i start with DS3? I'm not much of a story/ lore person, just wanna play for the mechanics mainly
4. Which one is the hardest DS?


1. Normal rules apply in my opinion so personal preference in terms of comfort, if you have friends playing a lot its best to get the same platform. PC can do 60fps, PS4 is 30 and not always stable but I havent found it to impact on my experience.

2. I've only ever play with a controller, its what its designed for, I think some people play KB+M but unless you really dislike controllers this is the way to play. I personally perfer DS4s but I imagine on PC you'll get Xbox prompts so probably a 360 / xbone pad depending on preference.

3. 3 is mechanically the best from a newcomers perspective, people will debate subtleties of some mechanics but the game 'feels' infinitely better in my opinion. The lore is heavily influenced by 1, but just watch some VaatiVidya videos if you are interested. 3 is perfectly find starting place, probably a lot friendlier to newcomers, whilst still retaining that souls edge people love.

4. This is a pretty personal thing and depends on how you experienced things. The general rule is the first you play is the hardest. Personally I think that DS1 had a lot more 'bullshit' moments than 3, moments that were hard but not necessarily enjoyably so. So 1 may be harder in some aspects but I think 3 has a fairer and more consistent difficulty, especially with the last few bosses, they really ramp things up. I think that some of the fights are mechanically harder in 3, but the generally lack of direction and annoying bullshit (Anor Londo archers etc) in 1 made for some notable difficulty spikes.
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
April 25 2016 10:57 GMT
#353
On April 25 2016 05:10 tehh4ck3r wrote:
i am getting my ass handed to me repeatedly by + Show Spoiler +
champion gundyr



I seem to be in a minority with finding this one fine, or maybe I just got lucky, first time I got him no problem so I suspect I got lucky on this one.

I did however die about 60 times to + Show Spoiler +
The Princes
, I know its not that bad a fight but man I just got wrecked so much, on a good note though I rode the high when I beat them and went to finish off + Show Spoiler +
The Nameless King
and managed to get him in only a few tries!

Those final few bosses are brutal, brilliantly brutal.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
April 25 2016 15:15 GMT
#354
Man I love this game so far, although for the life of me I can't get past the Abyss Watchers.

Playing blind is a bit penalising, but that makes you appreciate all the more when you find stuff.
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 15:37:05
April 25 2016 15:35 GMT
#355
On April 25 2016 04:14 Vaelone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 03:18 Bleak wrote:
Just started playing today, level 19 Herald. I am at the bonefire right after you see a dragon breathing fire from above on top of a tower. I had to avoid the warrior wielding the shield to get to the bonfire, just could not kill him. Tried to play a while, for like two hours, as I went downstairs from the bonefire and then further down.

I got stuck here. I go down a ladder, and there are two archers and two melee fighters that I easily take out. However, as I go further from the doorway near the ladder, there's a fighter with shield+spear that I just cannot take out. Even worse, I fell down when he was charging and died below, all my souls are down there.

First time playing a a Souls game. Any tips would be immensely appreciated


+ Show Spoiler +
This is what I usually find to be the easy way to deal with those guys. Just lock on and strafe around them in small circle waiting for openings while keeping your shield up, eventually they will swing their weapon and if they miss you get a free attack in or even a back stab.

If he doesn't miss his swing just play the waiting game, you will get your chance. You do want a 100% physical resistance shield for this though.


Edit: Nvm my advice doesn't actually work on those guys tested it, they shield bash too much. :D

I'm sure I beat a lot of Knight enemies like this though...


Early on I beat these guys by normal->shield into fast attack chain or bash-> rolldodge into backstab attempt (if you land it, 2hand and just kill him) then fast attack chain (you can nearly stunlock them while attacking with longsword at least). Late on 2hand rolldodge forward then just hammer them.

On April 26 2016 00:15 DickMcFanny wrote:
Man I love this game so far, although for the life of me I can't get past the Abyss Watchers.

Playing blind is a bit penalising, but that makes you appreciate all the more when you find stuff.


Weird. I'm not great at these games and AW was first non-tutorial boss I've done on first go (even the tree I died to before figuring out you can hit the hand).

Edit: It occurs to me it might have been easier for me because I was kindled at the time. Don't usually go into bossrooms kindled, but I stayed alive on way over.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
April 25 2016 15:40 GMT
#356
Strange indeed, perhaps I haven't found enough upgrade materials and my +2 Dark Sword is a bit underpowered.

I finished all Souls games and can do DS1 in less than two hours now, so I just figured that boss was just exceptionally difficult.Should I have more than 6 Estus charges? My Flask is at +0 as well, which doesn't feel like it should be the case.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 25 2016 15:44 GMT
#357
On April 26 2016 00:40 DickMcFanny wrote:
Strange indeed, perhaps I haven't found enough upgrade materials and my +2 Dark Sword is a bit underpowered.

I finished all Souls games and can do DS1 in less than two hours now, so I just figured that boss was just exceptionally difficult.Should I have more than 6 Estus charges? My Flask is at +0 as well, which doesn't feel like it should be the case.


You've missed at least one Undead Bone Shard (Undead Settlement) if you are on the Abyss Watchers with a +0 Estus Flask.
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
April 25 2016 15:44 GMT
#358
It shouldn't. I can recall at least one Bone dust (is that the name?) that you've missed. You can get it before the tree aswell. Not sure about the amount of estus tho.
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 15:53:23
April 25 2016 15:51 GMT
#359
At watchers you can have +2 estus without beating any other bosses after High Wall. I don't remember how many charges off the top of my head I think 6-7 sounds about right. (again going straight to watchers after high wall)

Edit: Spoilers+ Show Spoiler +
If you killed Crystal sage before watchers you can get another estus and boneshard before watchers
It is what it is
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 16:15:55
April 25 2016 16:12 GMT
#360
Okay, I must have missed some major parts of the game.

All the ground clutter is really messing with my brain, it was the same in Bloodborne, where I missed two entire areas.

Ah, so it's Bone Dust again, I was looking for Firekeeper Souls.

Oh, and just to clarify, say I use a Fire Uchigatana that has 0 scaling, will it still get a bonus from intellect, since that increases all elemental damage?
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