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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 09 2015 21:48 GMT
#421
If it's really an episodic release I hope that all the episodes are included when you pay for the game for the first time. If they want 70 bucks for every episode that would be a joke. Anyway I will wait until all the episodes are released, maybe even for the PC version.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 09 2015 23:20 GMT
#422
They most likely will make you pay for each "episode".

The best comparison is FFXIII, where you have the initial game, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. All parts of the same story, different games, full price.
I like words.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 09 2015 23:24 GMT
#423
On December 10 2015 08:20 Spaylz wrote:
They most likely will make you pay for each "episode".

The best comparison is FFXIII, where you have the initial game, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. All parts of the same story, different games, full price.

Best comparison is every other Episodic game on the market.....
Average means I'm better than half of you.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
December 10 2015 10:23 GMT
#424
On December 08 2015 23:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 23:27 nanaoei wrote:
SE is barely earning more than konami, and it's only been just recently that they've been in the green.
ff11 was also their major cash-cow and now that that's gone it's up to the new generation to pick up the slack.

i believe this remake will be forgettable except for those hardcore fans (there are many). i just believe there is too much pressure by having a game under that brand (less so these days).


I think you seriously underestimate the legacy that is FF7. The game kick started the RPG genre outside of Japan and made the Playstation what it is and in the long term started the console wars which Sony has not looked back on ever since and won every single time since then.

The game is so popular that books, and movies have been made. The characters are so popular they have been put into games that have nothing to do with the Final Fantasy universe as it is expected the extra $$$ will generate just because of them. Hell the game became so popular it even affected hairstyles in Japan i.e. Teenagers started adapting Cloud's spiky hairstyle.

This is a system seller. Whether Square is low on cash and this was there trump card is irrelevant.


the legacy of FF7 and its series is has already been created. they don't need to market their game, but they will do it anyway. if we're talking about money, it's guaranteed to be a success, though the company has tanked to incredible lows until just recently (they are publically traded).

as for the teenagers then,
trying to form their hair based off FMVs and official illustrations doesn't speak to the Japanese animation culture... and how it influences the design, the game, the designers themselves, and even the players of a game like FF7.
there are a good deal many other things that affect popular hairstyles (not cosplay) than one example that requires literal hair glue and an hour of time.

once the games are deemed bad, it's irrelevant that the game sells well and earns off the sony console exclusivity. this is why I use, "forgettable" in referring to the remakes since it's the original that cemented itself in gamer culture, and is creating most of the buzz for these new games.

people realize that they can no longer draw parallels for the quality of games in the same universe, in the same "series" and even under the same directors. they'll play new games anyway, but it doesn't mean they'll affect the next generation as much as what these older games showed us.
it's just an assumption that most of everything SE makes is a blockbuster and carries a certain level of quality all the way through. that's simply not true. they make a lot of games, publish a lot of games, partner with the press often, and rely on their older games/older fans. the company has generally messed up a lot and is now much less influential than before.

need I remind that they've lost many of their brilliant creators, and even the people who were going to fill those shoes.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 10 2015 10:32 GMT
#425
On December 10 2015 08:20 Spaylz wrote:
They most likely will make you pay for each "episode".

The best comparison is FFXIII, where you have the initial game, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. All parts of the same story, different games, full price.


I don't think you can compare that tbh. FFVII was a one game and one story, that's it. XIII and XIII-2 are two different games and stories. They are connected and play in the same universe with many of the same characters, but they were not written as one. XIII-2 may have never come out if XIII didn't sell well enough for example. FFVII was always written as one finished story. Crisis Core or the Advent childen movie are to FFVII what XIII-2 and Lightning returns are to XIII.

As you said XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning returns are different games. You can split of VII in as many parts as you want, it's still one game.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 10 2015 16:49 GMT
#426
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 17:17:51
December 10 2015 17:17 GMT
#427
^Damn i love the music. Epic
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18511 Posts
December 10 2015 18:34 GMT
#428
On December 08 2015 23:36 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 23:27 nanaoei wrote:
SE is barely earning more than konami, and it's only been just recently that they've been in the green.
ff11 was also their major cash-cow and now that that's gone it's up to the new generation to pick up the slack.

i believe this remake will be forgettable except for those hardcore fans (there are many). i just believe there is too much pressure by having a game under that brand (less so these days).


I think you seriously underestimate the legacy that is FF7. The game kick started the RPG genre outside of Japan and made the Playstation what it is and in the long term started the console wars which Sony has not looked back on ever since and won every single time since then.

The game is so popular that books, and movies have been made. The characters are so popular they have been put into games that have nothing to do with the Final Fantasy universe as it is expected the extra $$$ will generate just because of them. Hell the game became so popular it even affected hairstyles in Japan i.e. Teenagers started adapting Cloud's spiky hairstyle.

This is a system seller. Whether Square is low on cash and this was there trump card is irrelevant.


How did Sony win the console wars vs the Wii? lol
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 18:38:52
December 10 2015 18:38 GMT
#429
Not to mention they got destroyed vs DS and the 3DS, to the point they might not even make a new handheld
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 23:04:43
December 10 2015 22:49 GMT
#430
http://na.square-enix.com/us/blog/final-fantasy-vii-remake-psx-2015-message-yoshinori-kitase

love the comment that takes 3 paragraphs to explain how the game could be released on 3 discs

and the guy saying hes crying coz the trailer for the remake was so shit andhe will never play it

the guy saying he hopes they have the sense to release all 3 parts at the same time (lost the plot much?)


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 11 2015 00:54 GMT
#431
DS and 3DS aren't consoles...

Against the Wii... said console which has already loss third support via EA etc. Not to mention pure numbers?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 01:35:45
December 11 2015 01:30 GMT
#432
lmao how are the DS and 3DS not consoles ?

they are called hand held game consoles for a reason

pure numbers where still in favor of the Wii lol and software tie ratio was in favor of the wii also (agaisnt PS3, the XB360 had the highest)

but whatever, this is off topic
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 11 2015 16:11 GMT
#433
Not really the same =/


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 11 2015 23:06 GMT
#434
The 3DS and Vita are most definitely consoles. They are just handheld consoles, but their main purpose is to play video games on the go. I think the Vita offers a bit more, but that's about it. They were made to game.

Hence, they are consoles.
I like words.
Greenstripe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:52:27
December 11 2015 23:52 GMT
#435
There is only one reason for episodic content: more money. And for this reason, I'm not going to buy any of them.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 12 2015 18:05 GMT
#436
On December 12 2015 08:52 Greenstripe wrote:
There is only one reason for episodic content: more money. And for this reason, I'm not going to buy any of them.

There's only one reason to remake an old game...
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Greenstripe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-12 23:07:18
December 12 2015 23:06 GMT
#437
That's why it's even more fucked up just how greedy they're being...
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
December 12 2015 23:16 GMT
#438
On December 13 2015 08:06 Greenstripe wrote:
That's why it's even more fucked up just how greedy they're being...


Companies make money for delivering products. If they deliver enough to warrant the price tag, what's the fricking problem?

If I get a great game (or in this case, several great games), I'm going to expect to pay for every single one of them. Does SE making more money make you unable to sleep at night? What's the logic here?
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
December 12 2015 23:22 GMT
#439
I wonder how/if they split the extra content across the episodes. Like getting a golden chocobo, the optional weapon fights, battle arena, golden saucer mini games in general, ...

I hope this stays in the game in some way or form. For me, this was a very integral part of FF7.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-13 00:44:24
December 12 2015 23:28 GMT
#440
On December 13 2015 08:22 JazVM wrote:
I wonder how/if they split the extra content across the episodes. Like getting a golden chocobo, the optional weapon fights, battle arena, golden saucer mini games in general, ...

I hope this stays in the game in some way or form. For me, this was a very integral part of FF7.


I think it would feel pretty natural to split it like the discs on PS1.
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