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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 02 2015 01:14 GMT
#321
On February 02 2015 10:11 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 10:08 Qikz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:57 Thrillz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:55 broodbucket wrote:
Brawl is more exciting than this game.


It really is. Brawl at least had edgeguards. It was actually faster paced too, I mean we can actually do 3 stock Brawl. I think it was funny how some people said the no ledgehog and great recoveries meant more edgeguarding lmao.


The problem is 2 stocks man. I've said this before, but people are not willing to take ANY risks what so ever being on 2 stocks. You can't lose a stock and find a comeback, it's just not going to happen if you're on your last stock.

It also doesn't help that everyone who actually gets streamed plays really, really boring matchups.


It's not just 2 stocks lol. There were several 3 stock Smash 4 tournaments and they were just as slow.


The answer is 1 stock!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:20:08
February 02 2015 01:19 GMT
#322
On February 02 2015 10:11 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 10:08 Qikz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:57 Thrillz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:55 broodbucket wrote:
Brawl is more exciting than this game.


It really is. Brawl at least had edgeguards. It was actually faster paced too, I mean we can actually do 3 stock Brawl. I think it was funny how some people said the no ledgehog and great recoveries meant more edgeguarding lmao.


The problem is 2 stocks man. I've said this before, but people are not willing to take ANY risks what so ever being on 2 stocks. You can't lose a stock and find a comeback, it's just not going to happen if you're on your last stock.

It also doesn't help that everyone who actually gets streamed plays really, really boring matchups.


It's not just 2 stocks lol. There were several 3 stock Smash 4 tournaments and they were just as slow.


It's the players then. Seriously, I've seen really fast Smash 4 games. I dunno, there's just something about Smash 4 games at tournaments where the players seem completely unwillling to do anything even remotely risky. If you don't take any risks, there's no reward both for you and also the viewers.

JMiller outside of like Luigi vs Sonic (although it's Sonic's fault) usually has pretty damn quick games. His Luigi is insane and he doesn't mind taking risks.
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totally_spy
Profile Joined April 2010
France104 Posts
February 02 2015 01:23 GMT
#323
le HOO-HAA has arrived.
Entertaining set, this ditto is quite fast paced actually
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:26:09
February 02 2015 01:26 GMT
#324
http://www.twitch.tv/not20xx

melee losers
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:28:00
February 02 2015 01:27 GMT
#325
On February 02 2015 10:26 GTR wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/not20xx

melee losers


4g stream. meanwhile The Newcomer is chugging along on mainstream :<
TranslatorBaa!
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:30:07
February 02 2015 01:28 GMT
#326
On February 02 2015 10:19 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 10:11 Thrillz wrote:
On February 02 2015 10:08 Qikz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:57 Thrillz wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:55 broodbucket wrote:
Brawl is more exciting than this game.


It really is. Brawl at least had edgeguards. It was actually faster paced too, I mean we can actually do 3 stock Brawl. I think it was funny how some people said the no ledgehog and great recoveries meant more edgeguarding lmao.


The problem is 2 stocks man. I've said this before, but people are not willing to take ANY risks what so ever being on 2 stocks. You can't lose a stock and find a comeback, it's just not going to happen if you're on your last stock.

It also doesn't help that everyone who actually gets streamed plays really, really boring matchups.


It's not just 2 stocks lol. There were several 3 stock Smash 4 tournaments and they were just as slow.


It's the players then. Seriously, I've seen really fast Smash 4 games. I dunno, there's just something about Smash 4 games at tournaments where the players seem completely unwillling to do anything even remotely risky. If you don't take any risks, there's no reward both for you and also the viewers.

JMiller outside of like Luigi vs Sonic (although it's Sonic's fault) usually has pretty damn quick games. His Luigi is insane and he doesn't mind taking risks.


Because the players are playing in tournament and most believe that's the optimal way to play. It didn't change in Brawl's lifetime and I doubt it will in Smash 4... The problem with Smash 4 IS that there is bad risk reward.
totally_spy
Profile Joined April 2010
France104 Posts
February 02 2015 01:30 GMT
#327
On February 02 2015 10:26 GTR wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/not20xx

melee losers


thx!
That sweet 60 fps! Why isn't VGbootcamp doing that?
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 02 2015 01:31 GMT
#328
On February 02 2015 10:30 totally_spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 10:26 GTR wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/not20xx

melee losers


thx!
That sweet 60 fps! Why isn't VGbootcamp doing that?


They are, you can right click the stream and click "Video Playback Stats" to check.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 02 2015 01:37 GMT
#329
They just cancelled the melee losers stream? wtf
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:38:27
February 02 2015 01:37 GMT
#330
Nice run for KirbyKaze through the losers bracket, into the Top 8!
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 01:39:19
February 02 2015 01:37 GMT
#331
I think he wants to stream the last remaining matches on the main stream
Which I'm totally fine by, I want to see some red yoshi on the official one, but this wait is killing me
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
February 02 2015 01:46 GMT
#332
On February 02 2015 10:37 bo1b wrote:
They just cancelled the melee losers stream? wtf


They want it on vgbc. Lol tournament is going to finish the next day at this point.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 02 2015 02:05 GMT
#333
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 02 2015 02:09 GMT
#334
ffs they cut off melee when it was about to hit its fucking hypest moment.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 02:10:26
February 02 2015 02:09 GMT
#335
this guy is celebrating for winning a losers match? okay
Commentator
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
February 02 2015 02:11 GMT
#336
Guh that guy needs to get beat. Holy crap does he play a boring style.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
February 02 2015 02:11 GMT
#337
So I have 2-3 hours to sleep before melee? It's already 4am here.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 02 2015 02:12 GMT
#338
http://www.twitch.tv/not20xx


m2k vs shroomed, dunno if its a friendly or not though
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
February 02 2015 02:12 GMT
#339
it's loser's bracket match
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 02 2015 02:14 GMT
#340
Are you at apex in person? If so super jelly :D
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