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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 18:42:24
December 05 2014 20:37 GMT
#1
Thought I'd throw a thread up here for people to talk about the MIOM rankings. Right now, we're on Day 5 and through to Rank 51! Here are all of the links thus far:

100-91
90-81
80-71
70-61
60-51
50-41

Some placings of note to me: LordHDL (87th), Cyrain (74th), s0ft (64th), slox (62nd), Vanz (59th), Ken (58th) Zanguzen (46th).

In general, really interesting to see how far some folks have fallen and how well new players are placing. Definitely shows that the skill ceiling is still growing fast and that new blood is doing great things for the scene.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#2
I'm kind of shocked Ken is still rated 42nd.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
December 05 2014 21:07 GMT
#3
On December 06 2014 05:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm kind of shocked Ken is still rated 42nd.

WOOPS. He's actually ranked 58th. He jumped up 42 spots, which is why I put that down. My bad!

Yeah, he's really making a strong return to competitive play. Really interested to see where he is in a year from now.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 05 2014 21:20 GMT
#4
On December 06 2014 06:07 peanuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 05:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm kind of shocked Ken is still rated 42nd.

WOOPS. He's actually ranked 58th. He jumped up 42 spots, which is why I put that down. My bad!

Yeah, he's really making a strong return to competitive play. Really interested to see where he is in a year from now.

Even 58th, it's impressive considering how long he was out of the scene for.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 05 2014 21:49 GMT
#5
Here's a csv of all the ranks so far:
https://github.com/jiangtyd/melee_scripts/blob/master/miom_top100_2014/rankings.csv

I'll be updating this with my script (in the repo if you're interested) as new lists come out. Unfortunately, this is probably only useful until Tafo releases the real master spreadsheet, but whatever

Current graph of rating vs rank:
[image loading]
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BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
December 06 2014 01:58 GMT
#6
The exclusion of europeans (undestandably so) is what really interests me. If remen is ranked so decently, how would a lot of other really good european players who consistently beat him do if they came to the states? Just interesting to think about.
I've never waited in line at the DMV [YVNG]
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 04:25:27
December 06 2014 04:25 GMT
#7
Yeah, I'd be very interested in the rankings of Amsah, Jeapie, Zgetto, Android, Cyr, Baxon, Thomas, etc.

Unfortunately traveling to the US is expensive Without cross-region play it's hard to rank people
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 06 2014 12:08 GMT
#8
Nice, was just wondering a week ago whether we would get a new list or not.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
December 09 2014 18:45 GMT
#9
Updated with today's release.

Shoutouts to Zanguzen for 46th. He's definitely a huge threat here in Tristate and consistently finishes well. Interesting to see Kage drop down several slots, especially considering he beat SFAT and Westballz at APEX.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 19:21:37
December 09 2014 19:20 GMT
#10
A lot of the list so far is questionable IMO, but a large part of that is due to the ranking system and how #80 and #60 separated by 0.3 points or whatever.

Personal thoughts:
  • Connor is too low lol
  • Remen too high considering his American results. If we take into consideration his European placements it might be justified, but we aren't, so he shouldn't even really be on there. He won an MLG qualifier over Kou (didn't play aMSa in the process), then lost all his sets at MLG and went 0-2 in SSS bracket. So it becomes an issue of how strictly MIOM adheres to the guidelines they put out.
  • I'm finding it weird that so many players attended no major tourneys yet can be placed above those that did, and did well at them. Looking mainly at ZoSo here for today's update. I haven't heard from the guy at all in 2014 yet he still maintains Top 50 status based on what I assume are locals and name recognition.
  • Ken is doing really well compared to last year (where he was ranked too low anyway), but I dunno how he'll keep it up. Dota 2 and Smash 4 seem to be his main focuses right now and he isn't really taking advantage of being in SoCal to practice with the real good players.
  • So many new players is cool to see. Emphasises how the bottom 50 are pretty much a crapshoot on any given day, with several exceptions.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 20:19:35
December 09 2014 20:18 GMT
#11
I'll just post the semiautomatically-updating image instead of uploading to imgur

[image loading]

Zoso is definitely being put there for his local results loool
All he did this year was beat up on Mafia / MDZ / ycz / Crush etc :^) He did ok-ish at the SSS he went to though
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
December 09 2014 21:51 GMT
#12
Why is BizzaroFlame so low? He has a lot of good results and I've seen him do well against some really good players.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#13
The bottom 50 so are probably relatively interchangeable based on how well they're playing on that day / the matchup / etc. This voting system is, tbh, not very accurate except as an idea of what "tier" a player is in.

I don't think Bizz has that many notable wins this year (a few good ones some over some Socal / Norcal players, but that's about it.)
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
December 10 2014 18:14 GMT
#14
what a jump for kzhu and zero
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 10 2014 19:15 GMT
#15
My boy Swedish Delight representing Rutgers at 56 :D Ken with a big jump and KDJ falling down a bit is to be expected. Mostly I'm excited to see the top 20 now
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 10 2014 19:57 GMT
#16
the 33 - 32 gap is pretty huge lol

also, TL doesn't cache that image like FB does, nice
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 10 2014 22:13 GMT
#17
did anybody catch this pun

The one thing that remains constant is his own ability to stay afloat, always being able to compete with the best in his extremely stacked region.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 10 2014 23:25 GMT
#18
the blurbs seemed more hastily written this year, lol

speaking of last year, here's a table and rating vs rank scatter plot for 2013:

Table

[image loading]
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
December 11 2014 18:24 GMT
#19
On December 11 2014 07:13 rabidch wrote:
did anybody catch this pun

Show nested quote +
The one thing that remains constant is his own ability to stay afloat, always being able to compete with the best in his extremely stacked region.


I didn't... still don't

isn't that from Hugs decription?

Also: surprised Chu is still that far up, when was his last tournament showing?
And wizzrobe's placing is incredible... 29th out of nowhere
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 11 2014 21:05 GMT
#20
Chu got 33rd, 29th, 9th, 17th at APEX, MLG, CEO, and EVO respectively. (It's all in my spreadsheet linked earlier!!)

Wizzrobe is rising really fast; I think he deserves his rank.
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 07:38:07
December 12 2014 07:25 GMT
#21
yeah, guess I forgot his showing straight away :D
So many oldschool players still in this list! Love it!

Oh wow, finally found the results listing on the spreadsheet :D failfail... also somehow forgot that they list those in the ranking!
Those aren't very current results though, Evo is half a year ago... haven't seen him alot since then i believe.

edit2: checked his wiki
he's been to a couple of tournaments, winning 3 and loosing to chillin, nintendude and vist, getting second and 7th at not so big tournaments...
So yeah... i guess he's placed pretty accurately

I wonder how many european players we'll see...
Remen is 72nd....
Amsah, Ice, Over, Baxon, Jeapie are all players i'd consider to be better or at least just as good, only difference is they didn't randomly win an MLG qualifier :D

and no Japanese players in the ranking at all yet? Or did I miss someone?
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 12 2014 10:42 GMT
#22
aMSa is going to be top 25 for sure; unfortunately Flash came too late (post TBH4) to be ranked :/
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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
December 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#23
is amsa coming to apex 2015?
Argentina
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 19:52:36
December 12 2014 19:33 GMT
#24
wow jinyung2 nice account name bro

he hasn't registered yet http://register.apex-series.com/Site/registeredMembers

edit: and he appears in the top 25 as expected http://www.meleeitonme.com/ssbm-rank-2014-25-21/

I guess the following players are top 20 in some order?

mango
armada
pp
m2k
hbox
leffen
axe
hax
westballz
fly
lucky
pewpewu
plup
sfat
colbol
s2j
shroomed
fiction
silent wolf
ice
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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
December 12 2014 20:07 GMT
#25
best account name NA

i was looking at amsa's ask.fm http://ask.fm/aMSaRedyoshi/answer/121287836081
looks like amsa might not make it..
Argentina
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
December 13 2014 00:55 GMT
#26
How old is Wizzrobe?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 13 2014 01:21 GMT
#27
16 or 17 I think?
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 13 2014 02:27 GMT
#28
A lot of players that deserve to be between like 50-30 from EU, but it's hard to compare it all if you don't attend tournaments in both scenes regularly.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 03:12:22
December 13 2014 03:11 GMT
#29
On December 13 2014 09:55 darthfoley wrote:
How old is Wizzrobe?

wizzrobe

fresh out the womb
Argentina
Melee_KumA
Profile Joined June 2014
United States42 Posts
December 15 2014 06:27 GMT
#30
Shoutouts to Lil Fumi! SD fighting ^^
Never forget the Spanishiwa Inquisition.
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 16 2014 12:19 GMT
#31
It seems to be just players that have made waves in NA, not really taking into consideration the PAL and JP scene. + Show Spoiler +
rightly so, they're different games
get stronger play longer
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 16 2014 21:05 GMT
#32
JP still plays NTSC though, haha

It's mainly because the scene is "biggest" in NA, so they want to rank players relative to NA players, but can't really do that unless EU/JP/SA people come to NA to play
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 17 2014 05:56 GMT
#33
silent wolf is 15th. wtf... and colbol is cracking top 10??
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Melee_KumA
Profile Joined June 2014
United States42 Posts
December 17 2014 07:52 GMT
#34
Good stuff Lil Fumi! SD rep <3
Never forget the Spanishiwa Inquisition.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 17 2014 09:08 GMT
#35
On December 17 2014 16:52 Melee_KumA wrote:
Good stuff Lil Fumi! SD rep <3


why'd you post roughly the same thing again LOL
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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 17 2014 18:43 GMT
#36
PP gonna be 5th since he's basically been afk. Mango 1 Armada 2. This summer kinda proved that.

Either Hbox or M2k at 3rd. Probably Hbox since he's performed the best against the rest of the Gods. Leffen 6 just in terms of gun to your head, who's most likely to take a set off top 5. Hax 7th. West 8th.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 18:48:34
December 17 2014 18:48 GMT
#37
Wes at 9th pretty much locks in Axe at 8th, Hax at 7th, Leffen 6th. We'll see how much PP is penalized by not playing much. Imo he should be 5th solely for that reason but you never know. M2k over Hbox as well imo and top 2 has been known all along no debate there
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
December 17 2014 19:00 GMT
#38
Hax 8th, it was revealed earlier accidentally
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 17 2014 19:05 GMT
#39
On December 18 2014 03:48 Yorkie wrote:
Wes at 9th pretty much locks in Axe at 8th, Hax at 7th, Leffen 6th. We'll see how much PP is penalized by not playing much. Imo he should be 5th solely for that reason but you never know. M2k over Hbox as well imo and top 2 has been known all along no debate there


Eh while M2K can take sets off Mango in smaller nationals, Hbox has take bo5's off both him and Armada this year.

Then again Hbox has dropped a couple sets to tier 2 foxes recently (so has M2k) but I'm not sure if this was pre or post voting.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 19:45:11
December 17 2014 19:44 GMT
#40
Has at 8th revealed officially now. I guess Axe is 7th then. Don't really agree but his MLG and Evo were both better than Hax so I guess it's hard to argue. M2k hasn't beaten Armada in a bo5 this year but he did beat him in a bo3. He beat every other member of the top 5 in various tournaments. He struggled vs PP early in the year, then beat him at MLG. He beat Armada and Mango at SKTAR and just had really good placings at every event (except DYFWI) whereas H-box had a bad MLG and TBH4. It's obviously close and both sides have super valid points so it's not like I can say definitively that m2k deserves the 3 spot it's just my opinion.

Knowing the way the votes have gone so far I really think M2k is gonna be super penalized by losing to SW and Fiction. He may even be 5th if PP isn't penalized for being absent a lot
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 21:52:44
December 17 2014 21:51 GMT
#41
If you look at the ratings, Hax/Axe are pretty much interchangeable

(reposting image from last page) [image loading]

I sorta want to group people into tiers now that the data is mostly revealed...

Some tiers have multiple "sub-tiers" but I don't want to add a ton of +'s / -'s to the ends...
1-6? SS
7?-8 S
9-13 S-
14-16, 17-20 A+
21-24 A
25-29, 30-32 A-
33-43, 44-49 B+
50-65 B
66-82, 83-92, 93-100 (and maybe a bit more, but we can't see them) B-
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
December 17 2014 23:58 GMT
#42
Love seeing Axe perform so well. Never had bigger nerd chills than his 4 stock of Silent Wolf

+ Show Spoiler +
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Nickemwit
Profile Joined December 2007
United States253 Posts
December 18 2014 20:03 GMT
#43
On December 18 2014 04:44 Yorkie wrote:
Has at 8th revealed officially now. I guess Axe is 7th then. Don't really agree but his MLG and Evo were both better than Hax so I guess it's hard to argue. M2k hasn't beaten Armada in a bo5 this year but he did beat him in a bo3. He beat every other member of the top 5 in various tournaments. He struggled vs PP early in the year, then beat him at MLG. He beat Armada and Mango at SKTAR and just had really good placings at every event (except DYFWI) whereas H-box had a bad MLG and TBH4. It's obviously close and both sides have super valid points so it's not like I can say definitively that m2k deserves the 3 spot it's just my opinion.

Knowing the way the votes have gone so far I really think M2k is gonna be super penalized by losing to SW and Fiction. He may even be 5th if PP isn't penalized for being absent a lot

Voting took place before DYFWI
Fight Fire with ShrieK
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 20 2014 16:14 GMT
#44
Welp PP 3rd m2k 4th. Was the only thing really in doubt in the top 6 imo. Now time for people to start earning next year's ranks!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Melee_KumA
Profile Joined June 2014
United States42 Posts
December 27 2014 22:56 GMT
#45
On December 17 2014 18:08 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 16:52 Melee_KumA wrote:
Good stuff Lil Fumi! SD rep <3


why'd you post roughly the same thing again LOL


Whoops! Just stoked to see Santi movin' up the ranks
Never forget the Spanishiwa Inquisition.
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