Grey Goo - new RTS from original C&C devs - Page 62

On March 04 2015 23:08 Cyro wrote:


Well, i'm somewhat impressed, that should make a dent. All of those are EXTREMELY important and those are huge draw call reductions. Having only 50-65% as many draw calls as well as change #1 and #4 could easily make the game feel like it has 2x as much performance, but i'l have to play and see

tl;dr disable Advanced Renderer and set Shader Detail to low if you care about performance. No matter what system you have.

Some guy said the menu didn't stutter any more, it still stutters like crazy, easily visible on 60hz screen. While averaging 115fps, 15% of frames slower than 60fps in my benchmark. It might be way less obvious than before if you're on 60hz, but it's still really messed up

ok got some data, played a 1v1 vs ai

FPS overall through 20 minutes:



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FPS at start of game:


^Even though the general trend seems to be at ~170fps, there are a lot of faster and much slower frames. Dragging the camera is laggy right from the start of 1v1 vs AI on the best systems available

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FPS later in the game with supply cap for me, hardly any supply for him:


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Overall:


Tried to take some screenshots but failed and no replays >__>

Haswell i7 @4.5ghz, dual channel 2200c9 RAM. Max load on single gtx980 @1080p was about 25-30%.

I'm guessing several things:

1; animation tied to tick rate of the game

2; tick rate approx (probably exactly) 20hz (starcraft 2's is 16hz, about 22hz on Faster game speed)

3; ticks take longer for CPU in this game engine than in SC2. The huge delays on the "there was just a game tick" frames are much worse and the whole game response (such as if you're dragging the camera somewhere) will completely stop for the ~25ms that the tick is being processed for.

Due to this problem, you're basically playing the whole game with your input being handled at 40fps. It's weird and bad on 60hz, but a complete deal breaker if you want to play at higher than 40fps. That actually gets worse with more units, ticks take longer.

Usually RTS games will have a tick rate and that delay before handling your input, but you will be able to visually give the commands and do stuff like drag the camera unhindered. In starcraft 2, and much worse in grey goo, you can't do that. Since my #1 priority in an RTS/FPS game is clean input and gameplay (i really don't care what it looks like) this is literally just game breaking for me and i probably won't play, i doubt they will fix it.