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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 12 2014 17:22 Miragee wrote: Don't believe every reasoning they release to the public... We can certainly doubt their reasons, but it's nonsensical to assume it's because they have ulterior motives and are intentionally with holding some amazing fun game instead. Not everybody plays WoW by a long shot. If Blizzard did a sci-fi MMO right, there could easily have been room enough for both games. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10135 Posts
I couldn't care less about that, if i like the game i will play it, if not, i won't, esport or not. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 13 2014 04:31 Godwrath wrote: I don't understand, why exactly do you care if the game can/will become an esport or not? I couldn't care less about that, if i like the game i will play it, if not, i won't, esport or not. People are obsessed with a games potential as an Esport as "validating" if it is a good competitive game or not. I personally give no shits and just want fun games to play. I barely have time to watch the Esports I am interested in. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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zeross
France310 Posts
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a2p8m_overwatch-14-minutes-de-gameplay-a-la-blizzcon-2014_videogames?start=0 look pretty damn fun to play, but i found it pretty confuse to spectate at the begining. i was totaly lost for the first 5 min of the game, and started to understand more of it by the end of the match. it is still expected to be that way for the very first game you spectate as you don't know the maps, heros and skill yet, though. | ||
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Sikian
Spain177 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
Arguably, blizzard has the best games of each genre, or at least had at one point, so the argument about them sucking is plain retarded. Look at other game companies who try to do that and fail. EA, for example. All they really have to do after this is make sequels and expansions and possibly start making Free/app games and puzzle shit. And you all will play the fuck out of those too, because blizzard makes at worst, better than average games. | ||
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Miragee
8621 Posts
On November 17 2014 03:18 MarlieChurphy wrote: People in this thread are ridiculous. Blizzard has their hands in MMO, RTS, ARPG, MOBA, and now FPS. (not to mention all there dope ass oldschool console games) They are just making games of each genre, who even gives a shit if the game is good or not, they are just expanding their market value. Arguably, blizzard has the best games of each genre, or at least had at one point, so the argument about them sucking is plain retarded. Look at other game companies who try to do that and fail. EA, for example. All they really have to do after this is make sequels and expansions and possibly start making Free/app games and puzzle shit. And you all will play the fuck out of those too, because blizzard makes at worst, better than average games. I don't think any of their latest games are better than average (depending on the definition of average of course). The only thing that is above average in them is controls and polish. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
 You can find a miniature that looks almost identical for every character in the trailer and on the banner. Well except for the gorilla in power suit that looks like a karman from at-43: ![[image loading]](http://i2.cdscdn.com/pdt2/3/9/3/1/700x700/rac3661116096393/rw/rackham-kare02-at43-f.jpg) | ||
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zdfgucker
China594 Posts
On November 17 2014 03:18 MarlieChurphy wrote: People in this thread are ridiculous. Blizzard has their hands in MMO, RTS, ARPG, MOBA, and now FPS. (not to mention all there dope ass oldschool console games) They are just making games of each genre, who even gives a shit if the game is good or not, they are just expanding their market value. Arguably, blizzard has the best games of each genre, or at least had at one point, so the argument about them sucking is plain retarded. Look at other game companies who try to do that and fail. EA, for example. All they really have to do after this is make sequels and expansions and possibly start making Free/app games and puzzle shit. And you all will play the fuck out of those too, because blizzard makes at worst, better than average games. All Blizzard has is a reputation of making good games. That changed after the release of Starcraft2 and Diablo3, both at best average games. Blizzard is ruining what made them stand out of the crowd - being known for quality games. In the last years they missed out on every chance they had. Way to ruin your legacy. So yeah, I won't play this game at all, same for their trash MOBA game. Not interested. That's coming from someone who was a Blizzard fanboy some time ago (never played WoW but owned all games prior to that). | ||
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Miragee
8621 Posts
On November 17 2014 04:58 zdfgucker wrote: All Blizzard has is a reputation of making good games. That changed after the release of Starcraft2 and Diablo3, both at best average games. Blizzard is ruining what made them stand out of the crowd - being known for quality games. In the last years they missed out on every chance they had. Way to ruin your legacy. So yeah, I won't play this game at all, same for their trash MOBA game. Not interested. That's coming from someone who was a Blizzard fanboy some time ago (never played WoW but owned all games prior to that). That post could have been from me. o.O | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Yacobs
United States846 Posts
On November 17 2014 05:38 [SXG]Phantom wrote: Well, you could say what you want about D3, sc2, wow and whatever, but the fact is that those 3 are the most succesful games of their genre. Depends on how you define successful. WoW is obviously the most successful MMORPG but I'd argue D2 and SC1 were far, far more successful than their sequels. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On November 17 2014 03:18 MarlieChurphy wrote: People in this thread are ridiculous. Blizzard has their hands in MMO, RTS, ARPG, MOBA, and now FPS. (not to mention all there dope ass oldschool console games) They are just making games of each genre, who even gives a shit if the game is good or not, they are just expanding their market value. Arguably, blizzard has the best games of each genre, or at least had at one point, so the argument about them sucking is plain retarded. Look at other game companies who try to do that and fail. EA, for example. All they really have to do after this is make sequels and expansions and possibly start making Free/app games and puzzle shit. And you all will play the fuck out of those too, because blizzard makes at worst, better than average games. +1 for the CCG genre. It's going to be pretty interesting to see Hearthstone's numbers once that Android port finally comes out. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
But ironically it is exactly these changes which are arguably making them an even more popular company now; the masses *love* epic fights, simple dialogue and combat, hollywood-style cinematics. This is why call of duty and similar games sell so well; what they lose in depth they make up for in terms of broad appeal. So you can say Blizzard has become hugely successful over time, though subjectively you might say for the wrong reasons (no one can claim anything objective here). I have to say hearthstone is a good exception though. I think they are trying to make a quality game but overall the main focus is on simplified dialogues, interfaces, and gameplay. I'm sure that its nowhere near as involved or interesting as the "Magic" card game is, for example. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On November 17 2014 06:16 Yacobs wrote: Depends on how you define successful. WoW is obviously the most successful MMORPG but I'd argue D2 and SC1 were far, far more successful than their sequels. Best selling PC games of all time. Number at left is rank. Number at right is millions of copies sold. 1. Minecraft.....................17 2. World of Warcraft.....14 3. Diablo 3.....................12 4. Half Life 2...................12 5. Starcraft....................11 ... 10-14. Starcraft 2...........6 ... 16-20. Diablo 2...............4 ... 24-31. Warcraft 3...........3 Starcraft is the only Blizzard game where the most recent iteration is not the most successful, commercially. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
That game nowhere near deserved that amount. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10833 Posts
It now actually is a good game (after tons of patches and an addon) but also a very diffrent from what it was at release. | ||
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