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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21699 Posts
On April 20 2016 03:58 Reaps wrote: I said it when Heroes was announced and i'll say it again, i have no idea what blizzard was thinking releasing a MOBA at that time. LoL was exploding on to the scene and Valve was set to make a lot of money off of a mod for a Blizzard game (Dota). This lead to Blizzard Dota which lead to a legal standoff with Valve over the Dota name which ended with Valve not claiming the Dota name and Blizzard renaming theirs to Heroes of the Storm. HotS was made because Blizzard was salty that Valve would make $$ off of their game(ish) | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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sushiko
197 Posts
deth, I think I saw you online during weekend beta, I'll hit you up when open beta rolls around. | ||
deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On April 20 2016 04:52 sushiko wrote: I wanted to come on here and ask if any TL members are planning to play during open beta, but I think I'm just gonna outside this thread for a good while. deth, I think I saw you online during weekend beta, I'll hit you up when open beta rolls around. Yeah, I think I remember you too. deth2munkies#1643. I'd be down to play with any TLers, though fair warning: not very good. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743424148 On April 20 2016 04:47 Plansix wrote: Also, I am sure someone at activision said “Order us one of those Moba things from the Blizzard kids.” And they did the best they could. But I think Hots will just be a healthy little side project that just chugs along. when a completed project is healthy ATVI announces metrics indicating big revenue #s every chance they get. When ATVI is dead silent on revenue the project is not healthy. ATVI is dead silent on revenue for Blizzard's MOBA. examine the bottom of the ATVI Investor relations page. You'll notice WoW, D3, SC and Hearthstone are there along with Skylanders and CoD. YOu will notice Heroes of the Storm is not there. Why is not there? because it substantially underperforming. | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 20 2016 15:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote: new balance patch is out ... here are the notes. http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743424148 when a completed project is healthy ATVI announces metrics indicating big revenue #s every chance they get. When ATVI is dead silent on revenue the project is not healthy. ATVI is dead silent on revenue for Blizzard's MOBA. So, which is more likely... 1) A project is not wildly successful, but still turning a modest profit, so it continues to get development and marketing cash. 2) Jimmy knows more than everyone else. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
i don't know more than everybody else. most people not on this forum board agree with my line of thinking. o ya, i forgot... ATVI likes to keep it a secret when their franichises hit a billion in revenue. i'm not the one throwing around emo terms like "fail". ATVI's actions speak far louder than anything i can type in this post. Just watch how fast ATVI announces Overwatch hits "X" million sales. ATVI had the press release for 1 million sales made for LotV before the game was even released. | ||
nanaoei
3358 Posts
similarly, i'm much more likely to continue playing dota 2 than to transfer all my time to heroes. the only upside to heroes is that it's great to play with friends at all levels. this is obviously a shallow view, but what happens when your friends (like me) feel like they've put enough time into the game already and are done with the game? well, you stop playing too. the same situation occurred for every team-based game ever. if there were some activity graph for heroes of the storm, i'm sure you would see the same pattern in heavily declining # of hours played, and for more reasons than that the new game glow started to fade. i don't see how views on twitch isn't an important number. if it's only consistently high relative to the rest, it means its community is quite large and is interested in constantly watching. if you don't believe game viewership brings a lot of extra exposure to a game and motivates people to continue playing, i don't know what to say. if a game is poorly designed for watching but is meant to facilitate a professional league and major competitions, that's an important thing to note as well. counter-examples are games that have already been established in the short-timeline of online gaming. streaming wasn't even a thing when counterstrike, tf2 and other such games were mainstays. now we have games that are being developed with streaming and promotional aspects in mind, and, all during the period of time where twitch is at its peak. | ||
AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
divide by 5 and that's how many 5v5's you'd have in a moba. how would you feel about waiting 15m+ between games just to play casually on a night i set aside to play games? rofl... that factors into the enjoyment too, no? i enjoy HoN for example, but i know it's deader than dead and has been that way for a long time now. with the way that game was handled, people just packed their bags when alternatives came out. | ||
Khalum
Austria831 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I want to play overwatch, but they picked the one weekend where we had so much crazy stuff to do to invite me. But soon. | ||
Meta
United States6225 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
i guess they'd rather trash the people in this thread who do a bad job of expressing the shortcomings of a different Blizzard game. i guess that's more fun than discussing the final changes to Overwatch before the dev team goes into bug-stomping mode and slows down on balance changes. not sure why. any way, according to Kaplan this is it.... with this patch..we're basically now seeing what Overwatch will be upon release. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
at this point i've done more than anyone else to discuss this patch. but, if you can't handle too much logic and facts in my posts you can always just attack my style of posting. any one know when Hanamura is coming back? | ||
Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
any how, do you know what is going on with Hanamura? i like how they are providing their thinking behind their changes as opposed to just giving us the facts. | ||
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