A few months ago, Team Liquid announced its Smash team opening shop with Ken and KDJ. A flurry of excitement flew through the staff. At some point, someone tossed out ".....Liquipedia?" And that's how our new wiki was born.
It is our great pleasure to officially open our doors and invite you all inside Liquipedia Smash.
We aim to be the most comprehensive resource both for the esports side (tournaments, players, teams, etc) but also for the game knowledge side (characters, stages, and so on).
Liquipedia also licenses all the text and code as CC-BY-SA meaning your contribution is open for anyone else to reuse or remix (as long as they also release their derivative work with the same license.) This we think is the best license to service the community, we don't restrict people using the material in a for profit product either. To us this license is ideal as it allows the content we all create to better the community to be used and reused in any number of ways, and allows it to further built upon.
And to further expand on the Share Alike concept, we have partnered with SSBwiki for Melee content
It was our goal to make the Smash wiki as simple to edit as all of our others. The process is the same for any Liquipedia wiki you want to edit!
How to use Liquipedia
The Building Blocks
Main Page First we have the main page, which has some information in the news section, links to the main tournament around today's date (upcoming, ongoing and previous). For easy access to the big portal pages there's some image banner links and classes have links too. The Liquipedia News box is mostly for contributors of the wiki who might be interested to know of new templates or structural changes to the wiki.
Navboxes Our Navigation Boxes are typically used to display a team's roster or used display a Tournaments on-going series of events, usually found at the top or bottom of a page.
Infoboxes Infoboxes represent information in a organized way, most commonly used for player pages such as on Ken's page. Name, Date of Birth, country, team, social media links, nicknames, and sponsors are presented.
Brackets and groups The brackets are there to show and display information to you, on who has played, what classes they used, and what country they are from, other useful bits of info such as Live report thread links, tournament previews/recaps, and interviews.
Clicking on the little "I" on the bracket will bring up the relevant info (characters, stages, and all other links) relevant to the match.
Groups will list players in ranking order, with a complete match list usually below, accessed by a [show] link. We also use color coding to show how many from a group progress and then it will be shown in the rank column, when a position (move on, or drop out for example) then the background color of the name and score will instead be what's filled in.
Key Areas for Helping Out
The Smash wiki has come a long way since it was started, but at the moment we would really like to get more help in keeping tournaments listed and up to date as they are being played. Most interesting is keeping the score updated, but also character and stock info on which stages are being played.
For the game aspect, the character and stage pages could use some help to be more clear and contain more newbie information.
Been waiting for this! Smash has huge issues with keeping accurate archives and looking through results threads on smashboards is hugely inefficient. The alternatives were - flipping through challonge brackets (if they even used challonge) or the smashwiki (which doesn't get updated all that often). Liquipedia is definitely going to help the scene immensely. So happy for this!
I really hope there will be some in-deph articles like this http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Mutalisk_Harassment explaining everything of one aspect of the game. it would not only help to get better but also help to explain why melee is so competitive to newcomers.
Super nice to see you guys opening a new wiki. I bet that after a few ones, the process become easier, and make it easier to actually toss ".... Liquipedia?" when a new game gets here.
Are you planing on including game mechanics aswell? (like a wavedash article or "spacing" or general bmu stuff) Or is it purely/mainly players+tournaments?
On June 20 2014 07:28 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote: Are you planing on including game mechanics aswell? (like a wavedash article or "spacing" or general bmu stuff) Or is it purely/mainly players+tournaments?
Everything SSBM related can be put into the wiki. Of course our focus will be also on tournament results and player pages, but pages for the characters, strategies and game mechanics are part of the game and definitely should get pages too. On the long term, what does it help, if you see a player playing a character, but not having any info what the character is about, and how is it played? Also, if one sees a player do a certain move and wants to look it up, why shouldn't he find the answer in the wiki? ^^ If you know stuff like spacing, don't hesitate to write it up for the wiki =)
On June 20 2014 02:41 TheSayo182 wrote: Lol is this game so competitive?
Absolutely. Looks like you have some research to do :D
I started with Melee in 2009 because it seemed to be as deep as SCBW and damn I was right, still playing it competitively 5 years later!
I love both games but I would say its almost as deep as BW. obviously a completely different game though, both with very high skill ceilings. and I have only been playing melee a few months and have played bw for years so my impression may be skewed.
what I love about melee compared to other fighting games is that it allows you to be creative, stylish, and play in a very personal way. even without much experience playing I can easily spot the difference between Mango's falco and PP falco just because of the way they play. are there any other fighting games that can boast this? don't think so.
Going on "Random Page" sends me to "Fox Up air" every time...
Plus, i don't understand what "initial autocancel" is supposed to be... can someone fill me in? I'm guessing there's an autocancel window at the beginning of aerials? haven't heard about it for some reason, and i don't really see it being useful for much, lol
thinking about this some more, i'm not sure how liquipedia smash page will be different from smashpedia and smashwikis that already exist, with a ton of info that will probably just be duplicated here.
On June 20 2014 17:15 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote: Going on "Random Page" sends me to "Fox Up air" every time...
Plus, i don't understand what "initial autocancel" is supposed to be... can someone fill me in? I'm guessing there's an autocancel window at the beginning of aerials? haven't heard about it for some reason, and i don't really see it being useful for much, lol
This is because there are so few pages in the wiki atm. R1CH told on reddit yesterday that he will look into this.
On June 20 2014 18:35 seom wrote: thinking about this some more, i'm not sure how liquipedia smash page will be different from smashpedia and smashwikis that already exist, with a ton of info that will probably just be duplicated here.
Probably a much better version, plus tournament brackets/results.
On June 20 2014 18:35 seom wrote: thinking about this some more, i'm not sure how liquipedia smash page will be different from smashpedia and smashwikis that already exist, with a ton of info that will probably just be duplicated here.
Liquipedia's strength is tournament information and tournament information is notoriously bad in the Smash scene. If the wiki manages to stay up to date with the help of the community it would be huge added value to the scene. Not sure how much you've really thought about this.
On June 20 2014 18:35 seom wrote: thinking about this some more, i'm not sure how liquipedia smash page will be different from smashpedia and smashwikis that already exist, with a ton of info that will probably just be duplicated here.
Liquipedia's strength is tournament information and tournament information is notoriously bad in the Smash scene. If the wiki manages to stay up to date with the help of the community it would be huge added value to the scene. Not sure how much you've really thought about this.
On June 21 2014 01:03 MSCBmariner wrote: any way i can contribute to this?
Of course, go to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/smash , log in with your teamliquid-account, and start writing whereever you know something about SSBM, that isn't in the wiki yet.
Would it be possible to get something along the lines of this http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Liquipedia:Brackets for the Smash section? Was going to add a 32 man bracket, but the only documentation I could find was for 4 man and 8 man brackets.
What is the policy on copying over content from www.ssbwiki.com? They have a lot of pages with good information on players that would not make sense for people to rewrite.
On June 22 2014 14:00 Onehat wrote: What is the policy on copying over content from www.ssbwiki.com? They have a lot of pages with good information on players that would not make sense for people to rewrite.
And to further expand on the Share Alike concept, we have partnered with SSBwiki for Melee content
SSBwiki and we both use CC-BY-SA meaning as long as you cite the source of the content you can copy it. at the moment I think if you add this code to the bottom of any page where you copy in content from SSBwiki.
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