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goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
September 23 2006 23:24 GMT
#81
Server back up.

but topolov play like shit man


And if we didn't have computers, we wouldn't be nearly so nitpicky as we are now.
Agone
Profile Joined November 2005
American Samoa231 Posts
September 24 2006 00:04 GMT
#82
Why didn't he take the bishop with his pawn in f6? (move 44)
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 24 2006 00:49 GMT
#83
look like a draw after 56 moves
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 24 2006 01:01 GMT
#84
its over i think black won
drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
September 24 2006 01:10 GMT
#85
so 2-0 to Kramnik
Agone
Profile Joined November 2005
American Samoa231 Posts
September 24 2006 01:12 GMT
#86
Kramnik 2-0
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-24 01:16:40
September 24 2006 01:14 GMT
#87
Once again, Topalov fans will say 'lucky' and Kramnik fans will simply look at the scoreboard, as teams that have just won are wont to do.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
September 24 2006 01:26 GMT
#88
On September 24 2006 10:14 goldrush wrote:
Once again, Topalov fans will say 'lucky' and Kramnik fans will simply look at the scoreboard, as teams that have just won are wont to do.


lol do chess followers really say lucky O_o
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 24 2006 02:54 GMT
#89
On September 24 2006 07:17 goldrush wrote:
Ay Carumba! Topalov missing a clear, forced win at move 32 doesn't happen often. According to Fritz, white was up by 7-8 pawns!


I really don't understand how Topalov could have missed that. Maybe he is being threatened by the Russian Mafia O_O
maoam
Profile Joined June 2006
United Kingdom444 Posts
September 24 2006 04:15 GMT
#90
I suspect he tampered with Topalov's yogurt...
I oink therefore I ham.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 24 2006 04:27 GMT
#91
haha
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
September 24 2006 04:53 GMT
#92
It wasn't exactly subtle either: 32. Rxg4+ Bg7 33. Qc7! Qf1+ 34. Ng1 and mate is coming. Come on...
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 24 2006 05:01 GMT
#93
topolov was so noob
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 24 2006 05:12 GMT
#94
On September 24 2006 11:54 BlackJack wrote:
     [removed quote within quote]

I really don't understand how Topalov could have missed that. Maybe he is being threatened by the Russian Mafia O_O

check the photos from the even, i bet you'd find a midget somewhere in the background.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 24 2006 06:51 GMT
#95
Both of the games show that Topalov is very capable of beating Kramnik so long as he doesn't blunder it away. Don't forget that at Mtel Masters '06 Topalov went 2.5/6 for the first 6 games and then came back and won 4 straight games to win the tournament. This could be a very exciting match if Topalov gets into a rhythm.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
September 24 2006 10:52 GMT
#96
That's true. If Kramnik keeps allowing Topalov opportunities like he did today, sooner or later, Topalov will convert them into a win. But people are paying *way* too much attention, IMO, to Topalov's blunders and acting as if they're the sole reason for the outcomes. Kramnik's blunders, in fact, are what gave Topalov such a chance to win. Look at both sides of the story and realize that while both players blundered, not just Topalov.

While Topalov did go 2.5/6 in Mtel, he also didn't start at -2 and he didn't play the same opponent every single round. Tournaments are very different animals from matches, part of the reason why incredibly strong match players aren't necessary good tournament players and vice versa.
Addicted`To`Zerg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria1353 Posts
September 24 2006 17:45 GMT
#97
topalov fighting~~
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
September 24 2006 18:30 GMT
#98
From chessgames.com :

"Very worrying news from Elista

Danailov (Topalov`s manager) says there are scandalous omissions in the organization of the match and there is a double standart treatment of the players. Topalov is being searched before the games with a mine detector, a device that is not reccommended to be used on people. His rest room is being guarded by 6 policemen and Kramnik's by none. Kramnik used his room in the first game 27 times for a total of 2 hours, while Topalov used it only 3 times for 24 mins. Various people had access to the rooms during the games and there was no camera control. Also there have been a lot of people with mobile phones on and other electronical devices in the playing hall."

I think it was gross mistake to play this match on russian territory. Everything before and during the match is being done to distract and psyche Topalov out. He would have nailed the second game down any day in normal conditions
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 25 2006 00:17 GMT
#99
On September 24 2006 19:52 goldrush wrote:
That's true. If Kramnik keeps allowing Topalov opportunities like he did today, sooner or later, Topalov will convert them into a win. But people are paying *way* too much attention, IMO, to Topalov's blunders and acting as if they're the sole reason for the outcomes. Kramnik's blunders, in fact, are what gave Topalov such a chance to win. Look at both sides of the story and realize that while both players blundered, not just Topalov.

While Topalov did go 2.5/6 in Mtel, he also didn't start at -2 and he didn't play the same opponent every single round. Tournaments are very different animals from matches, part of the reason why incredibly strong match players aren't necessary good tournament players and vice versa.


The games are also around 70 moves each and Topalov is in better physical condition than Kramnik. This should be an exciting match.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 25 2006 01:42 GMT
#100
On September 25 2006 03:30 mdb wrote:
From chessgames.com :

"Very worrying news from Elista

Danailov (Topalov`s manager) says there are scandalous omissions in the organization of the match and there is a double standart treatment of the players. Topalov is being searched before the games with a mine detector, a device that is not reccommended to be used on people. His rest room is being guarded by 6 policemen and Kramnik's by none. Kramnik used his room in the first game 27 times for a total of 2 hours, while Topalov used it only 3 times for 24 mins. Various people had access to the rooms during the games and there was no camera control. Also there have been a lot of people with mobile phones on and other electronical devices in the playing hall."

I think it was gross mistake to play this match on russian territory. Everything before and during the match is being done to distract and psyche Topalov out. He would have nailed the second game down any day in normal conditions
bleh, nationalists. if this is true then the world is more fucked up than i have imagined.
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