ugh i'm feeling dumb and don't understand why black didn't take the rook at

40 ...Ke7

there must be some really simple mate afterwards that i'm missing or??

Spike

United States1392 Posts

September 22 2006 10:38 GMT

#23

White's bishop can slide to e4. Checks the king and then capture black's rook. Pawn would then have free range.
Black would have been pawned. hahahaha so nerdy

Pwntrucci[sR]

Canada1519 Posts

September 22 2006 10:57 GMT

#24

how can they see so far in the future?

radar14

United States1437 Posts

September 22 2006 11:02 GMT

#25

they called ms. cleo

Shymon

United States620 Posts

September 22 2006 11:24 GMT

#26

On September 22 2006 19:57 mr.bad wrote:
how can they see so far in the future?

beacuse most times you don't have to actually read that far in advance. i would say that most positions (read non-combination freindly ones) require maybe at most a 3 move tree (a "tree" meaning what it would look like if you diagramed it out) to read out. Such a tree requires no extreme calculations and is fairly easy to do for most people, now evalutating the end result is what really seperates the best players.

Combinations on the other hand sometimes require much deeper trees, sometimes 9-10 or more moves. However here there are shortcuts in caluation, forcing moves, forced moves, clearly supiror postions, or mate threats all cut down potential large sections of the tree beacuse the moves are more or less forced to go down a logical path. thus the premutations are not so duanting as they may first seem, but again evaluating the end position is vital (seeing how it will play out in advance does nothing if it is a worse position for you).

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

September 22 2006 11:53 GMT

#27

I've been waiting for this for a while now. ^^

karelen

Sweden2407 Posts

September 22 2006 12:06 GMT

#28

i really hope that topalov takes this since i like his style more. however, kramnik is one tough cookie when it comes to matches.

for those that dont follow chess that much it can be hard to understand why one player can be good at matches especially, they play chess the same way they play in tournaments right?
well, in matches where several games are played against the same oponent specific preparation becomes crucial, and in the field kramnik is arguably the best in the world. the best example is when kramnik wrested the title from kasparov ( Topalov is the logical heir to the dynamic style of chess which was the signum of Kaspaov ) by cleverly stearing the games into well rehearsed endgames where kaspaov felt uncomfortable.

As i see it Topalov probably is the slightly stronger player over all. But his lack of match experience makes this a toss up. Also Kramnik has shown that he is capable of shutting down players with similar style to Tpalov.

The unknown factor is Kramniks current healthcondition. He is suffering from some sort of rheumatic disease which has kept him from serious competition for quite some time.

bearnet2001

Argentina335 Posts

September 22 2006 12:53 GMT

#29

Kramnik, slow and steady, always comes through.

lightman

United States731 Posts

September 22 2006 13:19 GMT

#30

I voted for Kramnik.

I prefer his machine flawless gamestyle over Topalov's aggressiveness, but let's see

BlackJack

United States10574 Posts

September 22 2006 14:08 GMT

#31

Personally I think Kramnik will win, but I'll be rooting for Topa

mdb

Bulgaria4059 Posts

September 22 2006 15:24 GMT

#32

Can`t wait! Does anyone know if you need a premium membership at chessgames.com to watch the fames live?

MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

September 22 2006 15:52 GMT

#33

On September 22 2006 19:20 Locked wrote:
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ugh i'm feeling dumb and don't understand why black didn't take the rook at

40 ...Ke7

there must be some really simple mate afterwards that i'm missing or??

If he did that then B-e4 forks the King and Rook....trading Rooks is not good for black.

LTT

Shakuras1095 Posts

September 22 2006 17:32 GMT

#34

On September 23 2006 00:24 mdb wrote:
Can`t wait! Does anyone know if you need a premium membership at chessgames.com to watch the fames live?

You do not. Get it directly from the world championship site. http://www.worldchess2006.com/main.asp?id=918

mdb

Bulgaria4059 Posts

September 22 2006 18:12 GMT

#35

On September 23 2006 02:32 LTT wrote:
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You do not. Get it directly from the world championship site. http://www.worldchess2006.com/main.asp?id=918

Yeah, I guess I will watch teh moves on the official site and kibitz on chessgames

. One hour to go !!! Go Topa. In Bulgarian Top = rook

Silvanel

Poland4733 Posts

September 22 2006 19:35 GMT

#36

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 dxc4 5.Bg2 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 a5 7.Qc2 Bxd2+ 8.Qxd2 c6 9.a4 b5 10. axb5 cxb5 11.Qg5 0-0 12.Qxb5 Ba6

They are playing fast, suppose they both are prepred well for Catalan.