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goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
September 25 2006 03:47 GMT
#101
True, but this match has more frequent rest days (after 2 games, there is a rest day) than most tournaments and the match is also fairly short. I don't know if Topalov's better physical conditioning will be as much as factor due tot his short period than... say... the first Kaspaorv-Karpov match.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 25 2006 04:30 GMT
#102
indeed
MOBAJOBG
Profile Joined July 2006
Malaysia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-25 14:34:57
September 25 2006 14:29 GMT
#103
Kasparov is the best (ex)World Chess Champion ever. Both Kramnik+Topalov combined together would not be able to beat him in a 12-game match if he had not decided to retire.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
September 25 2006 15:20 GMT
#104
On September 25 2006 23:29 MOBAJOBG wrote:
Kasparov is the best (ex)World Chess Champion ever. Both Kramnik+Topalov combined together would not be able to beat him in a 12-game match if he had not decided to retire.

Kramnik ALREADY defeated The Man-eater (Kasparov) in a match (2000 year IIRC).
And Kasparov is getting older ..., so your state is very doubtfull.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
MOBAJOBG
Profile Joined July 2006
Malaysia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-25 16:39:17
September 25 2006 16:09 GMT
#105
@One Page Memory
Well, I knew about the fact that Kasparov had lost to Kramnik (who was once upon a time, a former student and protégé of his) as you've mentioned but of course, Kramnik is the best successor to Kasparov and not Topalov or Anand atm.

Out of 2 games played so far between Kramnik and Topalov, Kramnik is leading the series 2-0. Probably more through Topalov overconfidence and reckless mistakes, Kramnik won the first game which should have been a draw and won the second game which should have been a loss.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
September 25 2006 17:11 GMT
#106
This time I agree 100 %.
Looking for entertaining game today. GL to Topalov.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 17:59 GMT
#107
i have an idea . This game gonna start in about 2 hour . Watching them play for like 6 hour really boring . Why we dont play couple of blitz while watching ? It would be fun and make us know more about each other . Playchess server is the best i think , becasue they broadcast the match as well .
About me I am just a novice player , got around 1200 Blitz after like 65 games there .
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-25 18:05:27
September 25 2006 18:04 GMT
#108
chess at this level is about capitalizing mistakes.

the one player that makes more mistakes will be the eventual loser (if the other player is able to capitalize them). if both players make no mistakes on a perfectly suited position then we have a draw.

people really need to stop saying "oh he won cause the other guy made mistake". It's very easy for everyone sitting at the outside to say that. I would like to see any of them face to face sitting in the chessboard with a monster like Kramnik whose presence is already intimidating right infront of you in the other chair. Errors, that's part of the game, to make mistakes, blunder, choke, fail under pressure.... if not ... ask Kasparov about losing game #6 to deep blue in 1998 (99?) with a blunder move of a textbook opening !

game #1 the f5 move.... what did you expect ? the guy had been playing for 6 frigging hours... do you really expect your brain to work fresh and exactly as it did in the beginning ? They're humans, not machines ....they get tired you know ?

topalov has commited more mistakes than kramnik, and that's why kramnik is winning fare and square to me.
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
September 25 2006 18:13 GMT
#109
On September 25 2006 23:29 MOBAJOBG wrote:
Kasparov is the best (ex)World Chess Champion ever. Both Kramnik+Topalov combined together would not be able to beat him in a 12-game match if he had not decided to retire.


I don't understand what you mean ?

Kramnik defeated Kasparov in 2000 +2-0=13 ....... undefeated

The only other player that won a championship match undefeated was Capablanca vs Lasker +4-0=10, and everyone knows Lasker was no match for Capablanca as he was the clear better player and favorite (it was like an OSL final between Midas vs Testie). Kramnik vs Kasparov was like Anytime beating Julyzerg 3-0 in OSL Final

Not even Fischer nor Kasparov himself were able to do that.
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 18:51 GMT
#110
On September 26 2006 03:04 lightman wrote:

game #1 the f5 move.... what did you expect ? the guy had been playing for 6 frigging hours... do you really expect your brain to work fresh and exactly as it did in the beginning ? They're humans, not machines ....they get tired you know ?


well he is fucking pro player , his job is playing chess so ofc we expect his mind is still fresh after even 10 hours .
if you speak like that so why the motherfucking Nada has 13123123 APM , it sound so fucking impossible man
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-25 19:10:13
September 25 2006 19:09 GMT
#111
right Nada has 400 apm..... "f**king proplayer" . -no need to use the brown word by the way, we're all educated persons here and chess players -

let's suppose he gets involved in the longest game ever,,,, 6 hours long and still playing ....do you still expect him to have 400 apm and keep his flawless micro by the sixth hour ?
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 19:16 GMT
#112
6 hour long for chess is like 30-40 min game in SC man
and we all know Nada can have that apm in the whole game like that .
anyway it began . Another Catalan game . They are playing pretty fast
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 19:46 GMT
#113
anyone watching ?
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
September 25 2006 19:47 GMT
#114
Gacha we can play if you want.
I don't have account, just guest at palychess.com
Your handle?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 19:52 GMT
#115
ok meet in the children's room lolz
my ID is cloti
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
September 25 2006 20:21 GMT
#116
10x for games gacha
back to work mode
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 20:21 GMT
#117
lol gg's :D
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 20:21 GMT
#118
actually something like 5m+3s is better but you much better than me anyway :D
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
September 25 2006 20:22 GMT
#119
And yet, without going into the specifics of the match clauses, Kramnik clearly didn't want to play Kasparov a rematch. Kasparov may have been overconfident going into the first match, true, but he would've been a vastly different opponent the second time around.
gacha
Profile Joined May 2006
Vietnam91 Posts
September 25 2006 20:28 GMT
#120
lol reading GMs comment really nice . There are like 10 GMs watching this match and they are talking alot
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