EPT[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 445
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 08 2015 02:18 Cyro wrote: Yea, 4 minute fights are not so fun. I'd say 5 minute hard enrage is a good line for minimum fight duration (like butcher) kind of comes down to the mechanics but the fights I like this expansion: + Show Spoiler + Kargath mythic Bracken all difficulties Butcher all difficulties Grull all difficulties Blast furnace all difficulties (I get to use mind control don't judge me) Beast lord mythic Hans mythic Flamebender all difficulties Kromog all difficulties Blackhand all difficulties | ||
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
Also, you forgot operator tho'gar Drazerk............. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 08 2015 03:20 KingDime wrote: Blackhand is fun after you learn the mechanics but I was pissed off when I didn't understand the shattering smash positioning in week 1. So much salt haha. Also, you forgot operator tho'gar Drazerk............. Safety dance with adds is still safety dance and screw the safety dance  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/gqZ9h.jpg) didn't even shuffle around my hotkeys yet - for a moment there i thought the 1-60 madness might not be so bad after hitting TBC :D | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 08 2015 10:34 Cyro wrote: Just got Chimaera shot + Show Spoiler + didn't even shuffle around my hotkeys yet - for a moment there i thought the 1-60 madness might not be so bad after hitting TBC :D I swear to god 600-1k dps was the top we had during TBC | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Then warlocks kicked in, i remember ~2.5k dps on brutallus by my RL. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 08 2015 21:52 Teoita wrote: Yeah that's what you did in dungeons and kara iirc. Then warlocks kicked in, i remember ~2.5k dps on brutallus by my RL. Oh the good old days  What the hell is wrong with Blizzard we could have easily just increased our dps by 1k each expansion rather than 50k | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
lol and tanks only have 500k hp again TT Blizzard | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
The problem is that the math they have been using the past ~3 expansions is nonsensical. When you have so much shit increasing damage (mastery/crit/haste/int/multi/versatilty, rather than just spellpower/crit/haste and hit that removes a penatly instead of adding numbers) you can NOT grow things exponentially and expect it to work like in the early day of wow. Lower raw numbers on items all you want, but actual dps numbers will always skyrocket through the fucking roof because of all the % bonuses stacking together. It's the same as stacking dps cooldowns instead of chaning them, there's a world of difference there. I've actually been considering doing some serious math behind this and making a huge post on the wow forums, but meh cba. I hope someone in the wow team knows enough math to figure it out | ||
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ThaddeusK
United States233 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On March 09 2015 00:04 ThaddeusK wrote: Blizzard doesn't actually have a problem with large dps numbers, the only reason they did the stat squish was to prevent integer overflow issues. Now that they have figured out how to do a stat squish (and it seems they automated the vast majority of it), i expect they will simply do another one either every expansion or every other expansion, which solves the only problem that they see with exponential growth. I mean it'll get to the point where lvl 60 stuff has like 3 int on it. That's just insane, you can't keep doing that. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
1) actually increase how stats scale for low lvl characters so that gear progression actually matters again before lvl 85, but 2) reduce it drastically for higher levels, say going from exponential to parabolic growth 3) remove versatility and reduce the scaling of the other stats to compensate (so you lose versatility, but the % bonuses of everything else remains unchanged), 4) nerf the ap/sp coefficients of everything to about one third of what they are now 5) be more conservative from one expansion to the other, to the point where mythic gear from the last tier of an expansion is about as good as dungeon gear from the next. For example, wod 5man heroics would drop ~590 ilvl. Nerf set bonuses as levels increase to compensate. Compare that to early Cata greens being ilvl 272, which is better than what most people had coming off ICC 6) possibly reduce the total number of levels, thus giving characters lower base stats I would have to do the math but all those would be more effective and less stupid than the current squish. | ||
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TerranHwaiting
Korea (North)179 Posts
On March 08 2015 21:19 Drazerk wrote: I swear to god 600-1k dps was the top we had during TBC Wrong. I did 2000dps as a BM Hunter in Hyjal in a fight without Bloodlust o_0 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PSWTXbA.jpg) | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 09 2015 01:01 TerranHwaiting wrote: Wrong. I did 2000dps as a BM Hunter in Hyjal in a fight without Bloodlust o_0 Yeah I was remembering the wrong end of the expansion kinda what happens when you spent so long in Kara then suddenly jump to hyjal / black temple because attunement was removed. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
One of the first Brutallus kills (which was basically Patchwerk, and the benchwark for single target dps late into TBC), the top dps has like ~2.2k. Iirc during the final burn Archimonde took extra damage, so your 2k dps might probably just be good rng during that phase Also, my most sincere congratulations to those 3 mages for actually having a raid spot for that fight >.< | ||
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ThaddeusK
United States233 Posts
On March 09 2015 00:29 deth2munkies wrote: I mean it'll get to the point where lvl 60 stuff has like 3 int on it. That's just insane, you can't keep doing that. The way they are currently doing the stat squish is that 1-60 is basically linear, then 60-90 is basically flat, so if they did another stat squish at the end of WoD they would only touch 90-100 gear and make it all basically the same as current 60-90 gear. It is a somewhat strange way of doing it, but I can't say i would dislike the idea of having fixed numbers for current expansion dps ( always 5k-10k during leveling, always 20k going in heroic raids, always 40k at the end of first tier etcetc) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Hunter feels alright but there's shockingly few buttons 1-59 and maybe until WOD, a lot of the stuff like Hunter's Mark and Volley are gone too which is weird. Multi-shot was god awful until the level ~45ish passive unlock (you needed to hit like 14 targets for it to be worth casting) but with level ~45-60+ it's much better, it's still not as fun as old Volley though :D No aspects and no melee at all will be weird for a while. The range you can actually hit stuff with ranged attack is like 1.5x bigger with no dead zone and a bit further reach, and there's literally no reason to stand still because everything like Aimed Shot just casts while moving. I wasn't aware of that even after raiding with MM hunters | ||
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