On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought?

14 guilds now 9/10

I would expect Paragon to have dialed back the raiding hours but I stopped following the race so I dont know.

Mikau

Netherlands1446 Posts

February 23 2015 23:01 GMT

#8562

On February 24 2015 07:48 Acrofales wrote:
Haven't raided since Wrath, but I sincerely doubt that mechanics have gotten more complex than Kael'thas (or in its own way, Vashj). Maybe they have, but then other parts of the fight have been tuned down (Kael'thas was, in addition to being stupidly complex, quite a bit of a gear check). Simply judging by the speed that people charge through the instances now in comparison to back then. Mythic clears within the first reset are pretty stupidly fast. Remember that Kil'jaeden and original Naxxramas weren't ever on farm except to the really really really elite guilds at the time, and they had spent months progressing there.

You have to take into account that the top guilds now more than back then spend weeks if not months on the PTR doing the fights. I don't think progression has gotten much faster, it's just that the majority now happens behind the veil of PTR.

Teoita

Italy12246 Posts

February 23 2015 23:11 GMT

#8563

Also corpse runs are much shorter between wipes, and guilds need to spend less time farming mats, meaning more time spent actually raiding.

I doubt the number of pulls required to down a boss has changed significantly.

crms

United States11933 Posts

February 23 2015 23:33 GMT

#8564

On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought?

14 guilds now 9/10

Paragon logged out immediately after they lost the race. They don't care about anything but first and have gone back to a normal raiding schedule.

caelym

United States6425 Posts

February 24 2015 00:30 GMT

#8565

On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought?

14 guilds now 9/10

Method might also be the only guild capable of class stacking as much as they did.

Gorsameth

Netherlands22373 Posts

February 24 2015 00:33 GMT

#8566

On February 24 2015 09:30 caelym wrote:

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Method might also be the only guild capable of class stacking as much as they did.

The fact they had to move 2 alts to new accounts so they could get them into the group aswell shows how much they stacked for that fight :p

caelym

United States6425 Posts

February 24 2015 01:16 GMT

#8567

On February 24 2015 09:33 Gorsameth wrote:

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The fact they had to move 2 alts to new accounts so they could get them into the group aswell shows how much they stacked for that fight :p

I know they abused boomkin stacking in several fights (and blackhand), wonder what other guilds will do after the 6.1 nerf.

Spicy_Curry

United States10573 Posts

February 24 2015 02:36 GMT

#8568

back to abusing ww monks

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

February 24 2015 03:22 GMT

#8569

Fuck I'm salty about demo's nerf :\

ViperPL

Poland1775 Posts

February 24 2015 06:51 GMT

#8570

At least you got some significant changes

All rogues get is burst of speed nerf, leeching poison change from useless to useless, some transmo stuff and a toy! Go rogues!

I planned to farm archeology over the weekend to prepare for Harrison Jones on wednesday but all I did was watch House of Cards for 2 days

But at least I finally finished What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been, after 6 years of not having subscription in february to finish Love is in the Air and the Lunar Festival

EDIT:
What's this account sharing drama with Method going on? Can't really get much info since most of gaming sites are banned by my workplace network

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

February 24 2015 08:48 GMT

#8571

Kuznam alt druid and Ashvael hunter were moved to different accounts and played by other people is all. Fraggi and Himara or something the "new" members in question.

Yeah i guess they must not care at all after world 1st then, Method did though after Paragon killed imperator. Wonder if they will kill before reset, looks unlikely now.

Duvon

Sweden2360 Posts

February 24 2015 09:35 GMT

#8572

Regarding Paragon I guess sponsorship can have something to do with it?
When raiding full time, they'll probably get a nice bonus from sponsors for world firsts, much less of a bonus for later placements... We all gotta live.

Teoita

Italy12246 Posts

February 24 2015 11:55 GMT

#8573

Demo nerf was sort of reasonable on paper because it was silly to just run one spec for every situation.

They really should have brought up Affliction a bit more though.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

February 24 2015 13:37 GMT

#8574

On February 24 2015 20:55 Teoita wrote:
Demo nerf was sort of reasonable on paper because it was silly to just run one spec for every situation.

They really should have brought up Affliction a bit more though.

But now they've been nerfed back into shit tier for 3 different specs, buffed multiple specs above it and left spriests and fdks in the dust. Idk seems dodgy as hell, also mages are disgusting, so glad I have one at 650. Shouldn't take too long to get it geared.

Teoita

Italy12246 Posts

February 24 2015 13:44 GMT

#8575

Imo mages aren't any more disgusting than moonkins or hunters in any one of their specs, it's the ability to change between one pure single target and one pure aoe spec so easily that makes us so good.

Destro/demo are actually strong in their own niches i feel, which just so happen to not appear on sims. Affli on the other hand just seems meh...i really don't get why they would buff hunters, ferals and windwalkers and leave aff single target so weak.

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

February 24 2015 13:46 GMT

#8576

On February 24 2015 22:37 bo1b wrote:

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Hopefully they buff holy dps just a tad more so we can forget shadow priest exists

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

February 24 2015 19:34 GMT

#8577

so apparently theres still confusion about the right number of bosses to down before you get mythic cache, was it ever confirmed anywhere
seeing people that said they still got heroic one with 21+ kills

Alventenie

United States2147 Posts

February 24 2015 19:38 GMT

#8578

Not sure if it was active during a hotfix or not yet, but I believe it was changed to that you have to kill imperator on heroic as well as the 15 kill limit to get mythic.

If they have killed heroic imperator then I am unsure as to why it would not give them a mythic quest.

Beginning of last week I got my mythic cache. I waited to level up my followers because I started late and only had 6 epic followers when I killed heroic imperator so I didn't want to get a cache and bad %.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

February 24 2015 19:59 GMT

#8579

woops i meant brf mythic cache
apprently on mmo people are saying now its actually 8 mythic hm bosses to get 695 cache

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

February 24 2015 20:23 GMT

#8580

On February 25 2015 04:59 FinestHour wrote:
woops i meant brf mythic cache
apprently on mmo people are saying now its actually 8 mythic hm bosses to get 695 cache

Well I mean thats not that difficult given Kargath / Twins are Pug friendly I guess