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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
February 23 2015 22:51 GMT
#8561
On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought? 14 guilds now 9/10

I would expect Paragon to have dialed back the raiding hours but I stopped following the race so I dont know.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
February 23 2015 23:01 GMT
#8562
On February 24 2015 07:48 Acrofales wrote:
Haven't raided since Wrath, but I sincerely doubt that mechanics have gotten more complex than Kael'thas (or in its own way, Vashj). Maybe they have, but then other parts of the fight have been tuned down (Kael'thas was, in addition to being stupidly complex, quite a bit of a gear check). Simply judging by the speed that people charge through the instances now in comparison to back then. Mythic clears within the first reset are pretty stupidly fast. Remember that Kil'jaeden and original Naxxramas weren't ever on farm except to the really really really elite guilds at the time, and they had spent months progressing there.

You have to take into account that the top guilds now more than back then spend weeks if not months on the PTR doing the fights. I don't think progression has gotten much faster, it's just that the majority now happens behind the veil of PTR.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 23 2015 23:11 GMT
#8563
Also corpse runs are much shorter between wipes, and guilds need to spend less time farming mats, meaning more time spent actually raiding.

I doubt the number of pulls required to down a boss has changed significantly.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 23 2015 23:33 GMT
#8564
On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought? 14 guilds now 9/10

Paragon logged out immediately after they lost the race. They don't care about anything but first and have gone back to a normal raiding schedule.
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
February 24 2015 00:30 GMT
#8565
On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought? 14 guilds now 9/10

Method might also be the only guild capable of class stacking as much as they did.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
February 24 2015 00:33 GMT
#8566
On February 24 2015 09:30 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought? 14 guilds now 9/10

Method might also be the only guild capable of class stacking as much as they did.

The fact they had to move 2 alts to new accounts so they could get them into the group aswell shows how much they stacked for that fight :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
February 24 2015 01:16 GMT
#8567
On February 24 2015 09:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 09:30 caelym wrote:
On February 24 2015 07:49 Pandemona wrote:
Been 3 days (72hours) since Method killed Blackhand, still no other guild has killed him? Paragon slacking or just not as good as we thought? 14 guilds now 9/10

Method might also be the only guild capable of class stacking as much as they did.

The fact they had to move 2 alts to new accounts so they could get them into the group aswell shows how much they stacked for that fight :p

I know they abused boomkin stacking in several fights (and blackhand), wonder what other guilds will do after the 6.1 nerf.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 24 2015 02:36 GMT
#8568
back to abusing ww monks
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 24 2015 03:22 GMT
#8569
Fuck I'm salty about demo's nerf :\
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 08:31:35
February 24 2015 06:51 GMT
#8570
At least you got some significant changes All rogues get is burst of speed nerf, leeching poison change from useless to useless, some transmo stuff and a toy! Go rogues!

I planned to farm archeology over the weekend to prepare for Harrison Jones on wednesday but all I did was watch House of Cards for 2 days But at least I finally finished What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been, after 6 years of not having subscription in february to finish Love is in the Air and the Lunar Festival

EDIT:
What's this account sharing drama with Method going on? Can't really get much info since most of gaming sites are banned by my workplace network
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2015 08:48 GMT
#8571
Kuznam alt druid and Ashvael hunter were moved to different accounts and played by other people is all. Fraggi and Himara or something the "new" members in question.

Yeah i guess they must not care at all after world 1st then, Method did though after Paragon killed imperator. Wonder if they will kill before reset, looks unlikely now.
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
February 24 2015 09:35 GMT
#8572
Regarding Paragon I guess sponsorship can have something to do with it?
When raiding full time, they'll probably get a nice bonus from sponsors for world firsts, much less of a bonus for later placements... We all gotta live.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 24 2015 11:55 GMT
#8573
Demo nerf was sort of reasonable on paper because it was silly to just run one spec for every situation.

They really should have brought up Affliction a bit more though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 24 2015 13:37 GMT
#8574
On February 24 2015 20:55 Teoita wrote:
Demo nerf was sort of reasonable on paper because it was silly to just run one spec for every situation.

They really should have brought up Affliction a bit more though.

But now they've been nerfed back into shit tier for 3 different specs, buffed multiple specs above it and left spriests and fdks in the dust. Idk seems dodgy as hell, also mages are disgusting, so glad I have one at 650. Shouldn't take too long to get it geared.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 24 2015 13:44 GMT
#8575
Imo mages aren't any more disgusting than moonkins or hunters in any one of their specs, it's the ability to change between one pure single target and one pure aoe spec so easily that makes us so good.

Destro/demo are actually strong in their own niches i feel, which just so happen to not appear on sims. Affli on the other hand just seems meh...i really don't get why they would buff hunters, ferals and windwalkers and leave aff single target so weak.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 24 2015 13:46 GMT
#8576
On February 24 2015 22:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 20:55 Teoita wrote:
Demo nerf was sort of reasonable on paper because it was silly to just run one spec for every situation.

They really should have brought up Affliction a bit more though.

But now they've been nerfed back into shit tier for 3 different specs, buffed multiple specs above it and left spriests and fdks in the dust. Idk seems dodgy as hell, also mages are disgusting, so glad I have one at 650. Shouldn't take too long to get it geared.

Hopefully they buff holy dps just a tad more so we can forget shadow priest exists
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 24 2015 19:34 GMT
#8577
so apparently theres still confusion about the right number of bosses to down before you get mythic cache, was it ever confirmed anywhere
seeing people that said they still got heroic one with 21+ kills
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 24 2015 19:38 GMT
#8578
Not sure if it was active during a hotfix or not yet, but I believe it was changed to that you have to kill imperator on heroic as well as the 15 kill limit to get mythic.

If they have killed heroic imperator then I am unsure as to why it would not give them a mythic quest.

Beginning of last week I got my mythic cache. I waited to level up my followers because I started late and only had 6 epic followers when I killed heroic imperator so I didn't want to get a cache and bad %.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 24 2015 19:59 GMT
#8579
woops i meant brf mythic cache
apprently on mmo people are saying now its actually 8 mythic hm bosses to get 695 cache
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 24 2015 20:23 GMT
#8580
On February 25 2015 04:59 FinestHour wrote:
woops i meant brf mythic cache
apprently on mmo people are saying now its actually 8 mythic hm bosses to get 695 cache

Well I mean thats not that difficult given Kargath / Twins are Pug friendly I guess
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