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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 24 2015 20:25 GMT
#8581
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1724319-Post-Your-BRF-Mission-Type-amp-Info-here-please/page4
according to all this "data" if u can call it, does seem to be 8 highmaul mythic bosses
interesting that they changed it and 0 mention of it in patch notes anywhere #justblizzardthings
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 24 2015 20:31 GMT
#8582
Did some testing on my warlock now that servers are up (just on training dummies in Ashran)...

Demo:
DB isn't dead, but I did about 8% lower dps than before.
Cataclysm is just as good as DB ST and obviously better multi-target.
DS is slightly worse than even the nerfed DB. This surprised me.

Affliction is still miles behind Demo in single and multi target, like 17% worse. Though I only have a 2pc set and I didn't go through and re-enchant all my gear to be +Haste instead of +Mastery so perhaps it isn't quite so bad. (Trying to pick up an offset for affliction so I don't have to keep re-enchanting/gemming my gear when I feel like going afflic)

Destro? I dunno never play Destro.

At least my Blood Elf lady lock looks hotter than before?
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 20:34:55
February 24 2015 20:34 GMT
#8583
Sick troll by blizzard lol

EscPlan9, have you updated simcraft? The results here don't agree http://darkintentions.net/61-demonology-warlock-guide.html

Affliction isn't updated but i highly doubt it's that behind Demo. In fact, no dps spec in the game does 17% less dps than demo, including the 2 worst shadow priest specs. The reason it looks behind is probably hog/cata cleave on the second dummy there, you can't get ST results on dummies.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 24 2015 20:43 GMT
#8584
I wasn't doing simcraft, I don't even know how. As mentioned, I just tested against dummies so plenty of room for human error. And you're right, the HoG / Cata cleave probably makes up a good chunk of it.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
February 24 2015 22:35 GMT
#8585
Charred remains with Grimoire of Sac is now the default destro spec. Basically the way I wanted to spec at the beginning of this expac for my offspec. Glad to not have to play demo anymore.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 24 2015 23:34 GMT
#8586
So it's basically going to be aff for gruul, some version of goserv dserv demo/cata for brf if youre a lock, shoutout to blizzard giving me a mobility buff of sorts lol
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
February 25 2015 02:02 GMT
#8587
God damn it, trying to nail blackhand for the past 5 hours on hardcore. Last 10min before server shutdown for the patch today we get him to 7% and then wipe. Its a hard life.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
February 25 2015 04:59 GMT
#8588
massive lag/crash fest tonight. dc-ed in the middle of at least 4 fights tonight >.<
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 25 2015 05:31 GMT
#8589
Is killing the enemy warlord in ashren not giving CP a bug or intended?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 10:11:45
February 25 2015 09:57 GMT
#8590
^I think they removed that in 6.1.

Just a heads up guys, there seems to be a bug or performance problem somewhere. Standing on one spot when i just logged in (6.1 just came up on EU) i have 320fps at 1080p max settings, CPU bound.

Turning SSAA 2x on puts that to 100fps.

Disabling shadows and leaving everything else in the same results in 275fps. The game literally runs almost three times faster with shadows on low vs ultra. This is on an OC'd 4770k+980 system with about 1.15GB of VRAM usage.

Here's the scene in question, was logging one char to tag the heirlooms:
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This is MAX settings 1080p with 2xSSAA. The only setting changed is Shadow Quality.

The reason i think it might be a bug is because the SSAA setting is brand new, and it's extremely weird to see such a huge performance deficit from Shadows. My game didn't react like this before on either 1080p or on 4k, yet 1080p with 2xSSAA and performance is way worse than expected with Shadows maxed.

Yep, something is DEFINITELY fucky here. Shadow quality "fair" to "ultra" = 103-105fps. Shadow quality low = 275fps.

SSAA 2x = ~280fps - going into advanced options and setting render scale 200% plus MSAA 8x/8x = ~190fps. On 144hz that makes me a very sad happy panda

FPS drops moving around, so guess i'l just play max without shadows (even when it's not bugged, it costs too much performance on cpu and gpu) and supersampling +2-4x msaa
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 10:16:26
February 25 2015 10:03 GMT
#8591
According to blue posters in the official forums, it is not a requirement to have 8 Mythic Highmaul kills for the BRF Mythic Cache missions to unlock. See the Blue Tracker on MMO-Champion here:
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/363189-25-heroic-brf-kills-and-only-a-heroic-cache/

"For the sake of further clarification, Highmaul progression is not required to unlock Blackrock Foundry Raid Missions. Progressing in Highmaul provides an alternate way to unlock Blackrock Foundry Raid Missions, but it's not required."

"Were the kills loot eligible? Killing the same boss multiple times in the same week does not count as a loot eligible kill."

Also twitter post from WarcraftDevs:

"You do not need Highmaul progress in order to unlock Foundry Mission caches. It’s an alternate method, but not required."
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 25 2015 10:14 GMT
#8592
Holy shit yeah the difference in performance between low and fair/ultra shadows is crazy. Im not even using AA and it's still very noticable.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
February 25 2015 10:18 GMT
#8593
Mythic cache incoming. I have 12 Mythic HM kills and 25 Heroic BRF (no Blackhand)
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
February 25 2015 10:19 GMT
#8594
Shadows are like the most important gfx.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 25 2015 10:22 GMT
#8595
On February 25 2015 19:19 Duvon wrote:
Shadows are like the most important gfx.

Really? they're always the first to go for me
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 10:45:28
February 25 2015 10:42 GMT
#8596
^For me too, they murder performance and seem to affect both CPU and GPU strain, so no matter what hardware you have, they'll come back to bite you.

In this example it seems to be a horrific bug with blizzard's supersampling implementation, at least on my system. I get like 25% more FPS with shadows on low vs ultra with no AA, or with 4-8x MSAA but if i compare with supersampling, i suddenly get 150-225% more FPS with them down.

I wanna hug the guy who decided to make an entire advanced panel largely dedicated to AA etc. Configurable render scale, MSAA, post process anti aliasing - pick one, two or three. It's so fucking nice. There's even a choice of filters to use for the supersample downscaling! This engine is fucking good. Yay!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
February 25 2015 11:04 GMT
#8597
I've always been playing on subpar machines, the grey blobs under everyones feet is sooo meh in the end.
Not to mention building shadows, ugh.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 16:34:32
February 25 2015 11:48 GMT
#8598
The first graphics card that i bought, the gtx 260, was for WoW (:

When i first played, i played at around 20fps. I discovered in western plaguelands (yes, it took that long) that i could turn settings way down and get like 50-60fps and was amazed. These days i'm just maxing everything, rendering at 2-4x 1080p with 4x msaa and running at 200fps :D


Damn this game is antisocial as fuck now, i've done /hi on like 20-25 people (starting zones flooded with new heirloom chars) and didn't get a single response yet
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 25 2015 17:12 GMT
#8599
since 6.1, half the time I log in all my characters are missing, relog and they are back...wtf?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 25 2015 21:34 GMT
#8600
anyone play dk that has any tips for properly doing necroblight ub/np rotation flawlessly
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