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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 24 2015 11:02 GMT
#8061
It's possible to fail as a tank at least, I managed it as a fresh 100 warrior, but then facerolled at 610-615 ilvl.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 24 2015 11:09 GMT
#8062
If you suck as horribly as some people stuck in Normals do yeah you can fail. It takes a lot of effort, but then again, i have seen people doing like 2-3k dps at lvl 100, im pretty sure that takes effort too.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 24 2015 11:27 GMT
#8063
That hurt Teoita, low blow
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 11:38:15
January 24 2015 11:37 GMT
#8064
Lol sorry, i meant fail repeatedly and remain stuck on it. I have actually seen some people complaining that it's way too hard and screaming for nerfs.

I have never done the tank one so i have no idea wether it's actually challenging or not at any level, but the dps one is completely faceroll.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 12:46:59
January 24 2015 11:46 GMT
#8065
Tank challenges can be hard if the npc kills the wrong targets.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 24 2015 12:31 GMT
#8066
Tank one is interrupt or you wipe i found. I was in a skype call and watching a stream doing the tank one and wiped on wave 6 due to the npc stood in fire for about 45 seconds or something haha. But then i just actually looked and interrupted and was fine the next tries lol.

My shame of this expansion was wiping on silver proving grounds
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Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 12:51:16
January 24 2015 12:50 GMT
#8067
On January 24 2015 01:20 crms wrote:
what can my guild do to make mythic tectus more reliable? it seems like a vast majority of our wipes were RNG or some other crazy shit.

I'm sure that's not true, but what a sad night of wipes.


We did:

- Kite the red shit left around the room, 15-20yrds infront of the wall, to allow the rest of the raid to have room to move behind.
- Start in a corner, and move left each time the big rock comes. When you're in phase 2 (Shards), keep them at exactly the same energy. This means they'll spawn the rocks like:

oooooo
oooooo
oo-ooo
oo-xxx

Where x's are previously spawned rocks, and -'s are the two rocks from the shards. If they're at different energies, the 2nd will spawn to the left of the 1st, meaning more likelihood of people dying due to slowness.

- Last phase: Every ranged start running left at the same time once the first red comes, stampeding roar etc etc. If you stay grouped and rotate left nobody should get hit by the red unless they're lagging behind. Then just every man for himself as you aoe the adds down! Keep them all on one tank to allow for more cleave, and use all damage reductions on the tank during this time.

It's a pretty chaotic fight in the last phase, but the first 2 phases should be consistently performed.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 13:45:57
January 24 2015 13:42 GMT
#8068
For those of you wondering what the 'new' antialiasing will bring



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|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 24 2015 13:45 GMT
#8069
Can you compare that to normal antialiasing?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 14:29:48
January 24 2015 13:53 GMT
#8070
The normal anti-aliasing basically doesn't do anything for performance, and therefore is barely noticeable in game too.
I specifically like to do this on blood elves because the ears and eyebrows are very narrow and susceptible to sharp edges that look very ugly without AA. Here's a full comparison, Teoita:

[image loading]
The quality really does get ruined by imgur but the edges should still be quite visible. (Edit: Uploaded to tinypic, quality is slightly better.) The difference between the last two isn't as big as the difference between the rest, but that comes at a performance cost for the GPU too. Luckily WoW is very CPU dependant and bottlenecked by the CPU more often than not, so cranking up this setting isn't an issue for most people and people especially playing Blood Elves should love it.

Edit: Right, here's a better comparison!
Click for album!
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 24 2015 13:57 GMT
#8071
They changed a lot of the bottom layer stuff in the engine so it is actually less taxing on the CPU and puts more weight in the GPU, my framerate improved significantly in raids post 6.0 compared to 5.4.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 14:30:08
January 24 2015 14:04 GMT
#8072
On January 24 2015 22:57 digmouse wrote:
They changed a lot of the bottom layer stuff in the engine so it is actually less taxing on the CPU and puts more weight in the GPU, my framerate improved significantly in raids post 6.0 compared to 5.4.

It's better, yeah. But the CPU still takes the biggest load. I can run the game in 4k DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) on max settings and get the same framerate as I do when I just run it in 1080p, indicating the GPU doesn't do much work. I don't think it goes above 52C at any time and I have a pretty crappy case/airflow!

I do have a GTX 970 and ''just'' an i5 4670, and a bit of a bottleneck is expected I suppose.

I edited my previous post with an album including single images and a comparison.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 24 2015 14:37 GMT
#8073
I currently have a pretty outdated PC (3.5 years old I think) and WoW has started to fps lag. I can run medium/fair and get 20-30 FPS on average (funnily enough, raids, bgs and arena seem smoother than Warspear/Garrison) and I was thinking about upgrading my GPU (and getting a SSD). Are you guys saying that because WoW taxes CPU the most I won't be getting a noticeable increase in framerate? I can't afford to replace my entire rig right now and new GPU and SSD seemed like the easiest way to patch the problem before being able to afford a new setup. Am I wrong?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24773 Posts
January 24 2015 14:48 GMT
#8074
On January 24 2015 19:17 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
Think about this: Silver Proving Grounds is really easy, right? Basically a joke. Now, where are all the people who can't beat it?


How can't you beat it? If you listen to what the Panda says there is nothing you can fail o_0

I think if you are new to the game there are things you can screw up. If your dps is really low due to a poor rotation and improper gearing, that can hurt a lot. If you don't know some important shortcut keys that can slow you down too.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
January 24 2015 16:06 GMT
#8075
On January 24 2015 23:37 Mikau wrote:
I currently have a pretty outdated PC (3.5 years old I think) and WoW has started to fps lag. I can run medium/fair and get 20-30 FPS on average (funnily enough, raids, bgs and arena seem smoother than Warspear/Garrison) and I was thinking about upgrading my GPU (and getting a SSD). Are you guys saying that because WoW taxes CPU the most I won't be getting a noticeable increase in framerate? I can't afford to replace my entire rig right now and new GPU and SSD seemed like the easiest way to patch the problem before being able to afford a new setup. Am I wrong?


You don't need a new GPU. WoW is only about CPU and require very little GPU-Power so a 4 Year old GPU should be more than enough. I have a i5-4570 and a GTX 970 and even I get only get like 40fps in Warspear.
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 16:36:14
January 24 2015 16:31 GMT
#8076
On January 24 2015 01:20 crms wrote:
what can my guild do to make mythic tectus more reliable? it seems like a vast majority of our wipes were RNG or some other crazy shit.

I'm sure that's not true, but what a sad night of wipes.


We made two separate groups.

Mountains
1: Ranged group goes back around 18-20 energy, initiates first mountain at 25 while running forward 10 yards.
-At 50 energy group just moves left
-The one RNG factor that doesn't really go away is when the mountain targets the crystalline barrrage target

Shards
3: Get the groups prepared around 20ish energy and stampede away. If the shard health
is slightly off the groups need to adjust accordingly. AKA, if the back mountain comes first, that group needs to run
forward + left not just left.
4: Same thing at 50 energy.

In the final phase it's basically making sure you have no stupid ranged members standing in the middle while
doing massive DPS to knock the motes down fast.

Doom Guy
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 24 2015 16:33 GMT
#8077
LFR doesn't require proving grounds so I can't see how you can fail it given proving grounds doesn't scale with gear so you can just go in with LFR gear later.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 24 2015 16:43 GMT
#8078
You overestimate how terrible some people can be. We had to pug a couple people on our last mythic run, and a 670 shadow priest did 13k dps on Kargath...
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 16:53:28
January 24 2015 16:49 GMT
#8079
On January 25 2015 01:43 Teoita wrote:
You overestimate how terrible some people can be. We had to pug a couple people on our last mythic run, and a 670 shadow priest did 13k dps on Kargath...


I can understand lower than normal DPS the first couple times on that fight while you're focusing on fire, cats, and being in the right place to kite the charge, but 13k is literally DoT and fall asleep.

Mythic Brackenspore is one of those fights where you never really wipe the same way twice. It always seems to be somebody different that dies to stupid, or the tank dies because they didn't have a CD for breath or the healers forgot to heal the green mushroom in time, or there was too much moss and he went from 20% to 40%, etc.

I kind of enjoy it because it feels like real raiding but am also annoyed at the fact that over 54 wipes I've died maybe 3-4 times before wipe was called and we're still no closer to killing the fucker.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
January 24 2015 16:54 GMT
#8080
We should make TL website for WoW, like there is for Hearthstone and Dota, I think it'd be greatly used.
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
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