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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
January 24 2015 16:58 GMT
#8081
Nah, this thread seems to do the trick and as the new release hype fades, even this thread will go dormant eventually.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
January 24 2015 17:00 GMT
#8082
Also WoW isnt a competitive game like Starcraft or Dota
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 24 2015 18:22 GMT
#8083
On January 24 2015 23:37 Mikau wrote:
I currently have a pretty outdated PC (3.5 years old I think) and WoW has started to fps lag. I can run medium/fair and get 20-30 FPS on average (funnily enough, raids, bgs and arena seem smoother than Warspear/Garrison) and I was thinking about upgrading my GPU (and getting a SSD). Are you guys saying that because WoW taxes CPU the most I won't be getting a noticeable increase in framerate? I can't afford to replace my entire rig right now and new GPU and SSD seemed like the easiest way to patch the problem before being able to afford a new setup. Am I wrong?

You might! I need to know your rig to be able to analyse that. Sometimes, GPU can be the bottleneck. Easiest way to check is to put resolution lower/higher, see if your framerate changes greatly. If it does, then it's the graphics card's fault. if not, it's the CPU that's lacking. In general something along the lines of a GTX 660+ should be fine, I was playing on decent settings with my HD 6950 (nearly 4 year old card), but the CPU usually really lacks. an SSD will help load times, but I don't think it helps FPS in any noticeable manner, WoW textures aren't that hi-res anyway.

Post your specs, and people will take a look at it.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 18:30:14
January 24 2015 18:30 GMT
#8084
On January 25 2015 02:00 Teoita wrote:
Also WoW isnt a competitive game like Starcraft or Dota

Well its competitive in a small amount but the way to be the best is kinda dumb
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
January 24 2015 19:15 GMT
#8085
On January 25 2015 02:00 Teoita wrote:
Also WoW isnt a competitive game like Starcraft or Dota


There is quite a bit of information, more game content up for discussion than any other game, pvp, raids, professions, classes, you name it. There are guilds progressing steadily through end game content, it'd certainly be enough to keep it running, assuming the right amount of playerbase. Besides, it'd be the first one of its kind, I don't think there is a site like TL for WoW, most people just go on the bnet forums
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 24 2015 19:53 GMT
#8086
The point is that TL makes alternate sites to support its teams, there is no TL WoW team and there won't be pretty much ever, so don't bother.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#8087
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.
Useless wet fish.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 24 2015 19:59 GMT
#8088
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
January 24 2015 20:29 GMT
#8089
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 20:36:44
January 24 2015 20:35 GMT
#8090
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

This is nothing new. Top guilds have been farming with a few mains and a lot of alts repeatedly for years now.

As for a WoW TL site. Why would you? There are already many websites with long WoW traditions. There is no need for a new website when sites like MMO-C already exist.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 24 2015 20:42 GMT
#8091
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
January 24 2015 21:19 GMT
#8092
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 24 2015 21:21 GMT
#8093
On January 25 2015 06:19 Duvon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...

When they have a loot system that can pretty much put a stop to it as long as world first is still up for grabs it does seem a little odd that they don't use it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
January 24 2015 21:36 GMT
#8094
On January 25 2015 06:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 06:19 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...

When they have a loot system that can pretty much put a stop to it as long as world first is still up for grabs it does seem a little odd that they don't use it.

Yes lets turn the race for world first into an even bigger RNG fest by forcing personal loot on raid teams. "I'm sorry your dps did not get a drop this week. Tobad you wanted to get Butcher down"
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 24 2015 21:55 GMT
#8095
TeamLiquid is already so spread out. I don't go to Liquid Dota or Liquid LoL, but liquid hearthstone is super quiet, probably only need the forums for the articles. A Liquid wow would be super slow.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 24 2015 22:48 GMT
#8096
On January 25 2015 03:22 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 23:37 Mikau wrote:
I currently have a pretty outdated PC (3.5 years old I think) and WoW has started to fps lag. I can run medium/fair and get 20-30 FPS on average (funnily enough, raids, bgs and arena seem smoother than Warspear/Garrison) and I was thinking about upgrading my GPU (and getting a SSD). Are you guys saying that because WoW taxes CPU the most I won't be getting a noticeable increase in framerate? I can't afford to replace my entire rig right now and new GPU and SSD seemed like the easiest way to patch the problem before being able to afford a new setup. Am I wrong?

You might! I need to know your rig to be able to analyse that. Sometimes, GPU can be the bottleneck. Easiest way to check is to put resolution lower/higher, see if your framerate changes greatly. If it does, then it's the graphics card's fault. if not, it's the CPU that's lacking. In general something along the lines of a GTX 660+ should be fine, I was playing on decent settings with my HD 6950 (nearly 4 year old card), but the CPU usually really lacks. an SSD will help load times, but I don't think it helps FPS in any noticeable manner, WoW textures aren't that hi-res anyway.

Post your specs, and people will take a look at it.

I'm not on my desktop atm (at my parents') so I don't know by heart. I'll update on monday when I get back home.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 22:50:28
January 24 2015 22:50 GMT
#8097
On January 25 2015 06:19 Duvon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...

It's silly because it's just a huge time sink in order to get a passive increase on the power of your character. A competitive game would require a person to practice between performances, not farm.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
January 24 2015 23:00 GMT
#8098
On January 25 2015 07:50 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 06:19 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...

It's silly because it's just a huge time sink in order to get a passive increase on the power of your character. A competitive game would require a person to practice between performances, not farm.

The race for world first is not an esports, its simply a race that people do because they enjoy it (because there is no reward other then epeen)
Why would blizzard spend significant effort trying to redesign/balance for the race to make it a genuine competitive thing?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 23:05:52
January 24 2015 23:03 GMT
#8099
On January 25 2015 07:50 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 06:19 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:42 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 05:29 Duvon wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
On January 25 2015 04:58 Capped wrote:
Is there even an actual WoW comp. scene outside of the pvp ladder? lol.

You could say world first is competitive but in order to get world firsts this time around you have to alt farm which is a little silly.

Why so?

because of the mythic wait lock out (2 weeks) basically the only way to ensure you are competitive for mythic these days is to use alt farms while it wasn't uncommon back then it is now mandatory because of this short lockout period.

I mean, what's so silly about it? Except randomness of drops I guess...

It's silly because it's just a huge time sink in order to get a passive increase on the power of your character. A competitive game would require a person to practice between performances, not farm.

Well it's Some kind of practice playing alts, especially healer/utility...

Though I agree, and the competitiveness of PvE is thus a bit lessened by the grind influence.
On January 25 2015 08:00 Gorsameth wrote:
The race for world first is not an esports, its simply a race that people do because they enjoy it (because there is no reward other then epeen)
Why would blizzard spend significant effort trying to redesign/balance for the race to make it a genuine competitive thing?

I disagree, it's somewhat of an esport - just not in the same manner as PvP.
I mean, I would consider doing an Iron man a sporting event - even if you do it only to have done it.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 23:11:27
January 24 2015 23:10 GMT
#8100
The thing is how are you going to make PvE competitive?
Personal loot wont stop the alt grinding since then instead of 1 main and a bunch of alts you start the expansion with 8 warriors, run them all through Heroic and the one that gets the most loot is the one you take to mythic.

The only system I can think of where you actually make it truely competitive is having preset gear inside a raid. When you enter all your stats are hard-locked at X value and you race to complete it in the shortest time. Do you think the top players would enjoy that?
Also where does that leave blizzard and their re-playability? The gear grind is there to keep people paying.
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