• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:16
CEST 15:16
KST 22:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting2[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO35.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)66Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition315.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent I'm making videos again Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? Whose hotkey signature is this? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal A [ASL20] Semifinal B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Stop the Construction YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1583 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 396

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 394 395 396 397 398 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
January 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#7901
I like pugging as long as the group is fun, if we only kill 4 bosses or something I don't mind.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
January 16 2015 00:05 GMT
#7902
I'd rather not play my alt instead of pugging. I used to select the players myself and raidlead to make sure it runs smoothly, but now I can't take it anymore. At least 1 or 2 guys are always horrible despite their gear/achievements, then you have to replace them and in the meantime somebody else leaves, because it takes so long to make sure you don't invite the next noob. Add to that the jerks who bitch about an item they didn't get or some other ridiculous reason and my desire to ever do it again is gone. Same reason I leave random dungeons if I get a group with 3x less than 10k dps, it's simply no fun if you know how much better it can be.
I can only recommend to find a guild if you want to raid. Seriously, find a guild and you will be happier for it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 01:11:28
January 16 2015 01:02 GMT
#7903
I remember my old guild got pissed at people not showing up at days not wednesday, then one day we showed up on wednesday, SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS progress time! Usually a bad idea cause you can use the gear but it was quite funny when it happened. Then again I am 673 ilevel or so, full HC gear with the exception of boots, but I can coin some spirit gear for my offspec too and hope for some WF stuff. The new Ring adds quite a bit of dps, can hit about 30k right now on Butcher, mb a little bit higher(I know, Butcher and all that).

One question, is it normal for Warriors to take quite a bit of spike damage? We have 2 warrior tanks and one seems to take quite a bit of spike damage and the other one decently, compared to DKs(yes I know DKs) they seem to take more spike damage and about same overall.

Protection
Reduced the damage of Seal of Truth for Protection Paladins by 80%.

O.o?
WriterXiao8~~
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 16 2015 01:30 GMT
#7904
Yeah we got some kinda fun drama!
So I was raiding in a random guild that I joined because a friend was in it, and several other friends joined (I used to raid with them in Cata, and our progress was pretty good, between top 2 and 15 for France in 10m). It was a pretty meh raid, but we managed to help them enough to reach 2/7 M. The GM had always been really odd (supposedly had been in jail for beating his wife after she cheated on him, plus he probably smoked way too much weed), but he used to be kinda cool and funny, until he didn't get an item he wanted the other night. He has the most geared char in the raid, and he already had these bracers in Heroic, but the warforged heroic version allegedly was crucial to his tanking on M Brackenspore (lol). So he went all crazy and shit, finally pouting and not saying anything else for the night. I suppose he got frustrated because he understood that my friend had become the actual raid and guild leader a while ago by being a way better player and leader, and because we managed to prove via logs that he was the main reason we couldn't kill M Brackenspore because he uses his cooldowns like a retard.
The day after, he joined TS and started to argue with my friend, and went bat shit crazy about everything again, saying how my group of friends was trying to take over his guild and how we were pieces of shit and stuff (when it was obviously not our intention, we didn't really care and just helped the guild as we could). It was pretty hilarious, so my mate just left the guild and the guild master kicked us all. He mocked my buddy, saying that he would have a 20 man raid come night when we would be all sad and crying in our garrisons.
Tonight, we messaged the other players from the old raid, who were obviously also tired of his BS, put 20 people together and went to clear our usual 2 Mythic bosses like nothing happened. We even got really good attempts on brackenspore, and should be able to kill it next time. Meanwhile, this guy sat alone in his guild, probably raging all the more as all the people he hoped to keep noped away.
I've seen some silly stuff in WoW, but a guy destroying his own guild for a 6 ilvl upgrade when he had been lucky enough to get a decent raid for mythic progress is new. It was a really fun couple of days!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
January 16 2015 02:14 GMT
#7905
That's awesome.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
January 16 2015 06:47 GMT
#7906
I have been playing wow since at least 2006-2007 and this expo is honestly beautiful. The beginning of the future for wow.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 16 2015 08:04 GMT
#7907
On January 16 2015 10:02 Kipsate wrote:
I remember my old guild got pissed at people not showing up at days not wednesday, then one day we showed up on wednesday, SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS progress time! Usually a bad idea cause you can use the gear but it was quite funny when it happened. Then again I am 673 ilevel or so, full HC gear with the exception of boots, but I can coin some spirit gear for my offspec too and hope for some WF stuff. The new Ring adds quite a bit of dps, can hit about 30k right now on Butcher, mb a little bit higher(I know, Butcher and all that).

One question, is it normal for Warriors to take quite a bit of spike damage? We have 2 warrior tanks and one seems to take quite a bit of spike damage and the other one decently, compared to DKs(yes I know DKs) they seem to take more spike damage and about same overall.

Show nested quote +
Protection
Reduced the damage of Seal of Truth for Protection Paladins by 80%.

O.o?

Yea, wtf is that. Also a flat 25% nerf to seraphim. The end result is something like a ~20% dps nerf, and a ~10% nerf to survivability (if you were using Seraphim).
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 16 2015 09:04 GMT
#7908
Paladin prot dps was insane though, they nerfed blood DKs remember too they were also crazy. Paladin with the new way of spending holy power to get the haste buff is it? I don't know what as i don't play i just heard it from a friend who uses it. Makes DPS shoot through the roof xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 10:54:29
January 16 2015 10:52 GMT
#7909
I'm not really used to tanks being on the top half of DPS meter semi-regularly, prot pally was doing that (and i don't think the other raiders were awful lol)

also wtf is up with threat not being removed on death? When did they change that?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
January 16 2015 11:13 GMT
#7910
Paragon's Prot Pally was consistently topping DPS it was kind of insane.
rip
fmod
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Cayman Islands330 Posts
January 16 2015 11:24 GMT
#7911
On January 16 2015 15:47 Steelavocado wrote:
I have been playing wow since at least 2006-2007 and this expo is honestly beautiful. The beginning of the future for wow.

Can you explain, out of curiosity?
I don't particularly like you.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 16 2015 11:38 GMT
#7912
On January 16 2015 19:52 Cyro wrote:
I'm not really used to tanks being on the top half of DPS meter semi-regularly, prot pally was doing that (and i don't think the other raiders were awful lol)

also wtf is up with threat not being removed on death? When did they change that?


Tank's DPS has been bullshit since they added vengeance back in Cata. In WOTLK, you could do decent DPS as a prot warrior, but you needed to use DPS gear and you would take ridiculous amounts of damage. In cata, some hit and expertise were enough to do ridiculous damage. Same in mop, particularly when AOEing (I remember that boss in the first raid with insectoids where tanks would do double or triple the DPS of other classes). Now there is no vengeance anymore, but tanks still do stupid DPS. If I recall correctly, their reason for that is that it's "fun" to do damage as a tank. Well, no it's not. It's fun to tank well designed encounters where your movement and timings matter a lot, I didn't give a damn about my damage while tanking and it always felt stupid when I would do a lot of it >.<
Didn't know about the threat not being removed on death though.. Good to know!
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
January 16 2015 11:41 GMT
#7913
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 12:55:31
January 16 2015 11:43 GMT
#7914
I had logistics issues with my recruit-a-friend account and my main account expiring ~ while I had a free month delaying my double whammy subscription game-time bonus and I used the support chat from Blizzard and they clarified all my payment details and times and accounts and ....

GAVE ME 10 DAYS GAME TIME~! 5/5 stars Blizzard support
Support your esport!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 16 2015 11:56 GMT
#7915
On January 16 2015 20:41 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!

Hey remember when threat was actually important?

Fun times
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 16 2015 12:19 GMT
#7916
On January 16 2015 20:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 20:41 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!

Hey remember when threat was actually important?

Fun times


Tanking Setthek daily with my alt warrior at the time for the Anzu runs was the most fun I've ever had tanking I think (aside maybe from Heroic Anub, which was a bit frustrating on the sides).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 12:32:29
January 16 2015 12:27 GMT
#7917
On January 16 2015 21:19 Nimix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 20:56 Drazerk wrote:
On January 16 2015 20:41 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!

Hey remember when threat was actually important?

Fun times


Tanking Setthek daily with my alt warrior at the time for the Anzu runs was the most fun I've ever had tanking I think (aside maybe from Heroic Anub, which was a bit frustrating on the sides).


Yeah I remember tanking shattered halls and shitting myself that over the threat issues while trying to also stay alive at the same time.

Having to worry about 2 things > having to worry about 1 thing.

Dunno why tanks are even close to the top dps the 5% unpure tax should still exist right? Unless they thought that was a dumb mechanic as well?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 16 2015 12:33 GMT
#7918
They are only close on AOE fights and in my experience its only DKs and prot pala's, Blood boil got the nerf stick though.
WriterXiao8~~
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 16 2015 12:40 GMT
#7919
On January 16 2015 21:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 21:19 Nimix wrote:
On January 16 2015 20:56 Drazerk wrote:
On January 16 2015 20:41 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!

Hey remember when threat was actually important?

Fun times


Tanking Setthek daily with my alt warrior at the time for the Anzu runs was the most fun I've ever had tanking I think (aside maybe from Heroic Anub, which was a bit frustrating on the sides).


Yeah I remember tanking shattered halls and shitting myself that over the threat issues while trying to also stay alive at the same time.

Having to worry about 2 things > having to worry about 1 thing.

Dunno why tanks are even close to the top dps the 5% unpure tax should still exist right? Unless they thought that was a dumb mechanic as well?

That 5% tax is and was bullshit and isn't in the game anymore. You should be able to do competitive DPS as a hybrid as long as you are specced for DPS. Tanks doing too much damage is bullshit, but in an ideal world all DPS specs should be equal, whether they're mages or shadowpriests.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 16 2015 12:44 GMT
#7920
On January 16 2015 21:40 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 21:27 Drazerk wrote:
On January 16 2015 21:19 Nimix wrote:
On January 16 2015 20:56 Drazerk wrote:
On January 16 2015 20:41 TerranHwaiting wrote:
Tanks should fucking tank and do no damage at all like in Vanilla and TBC!

Hey remember when threat was actually important?

Fun times


Tanking Setthek daily with my alt warrior at the time for the Anzu runs was the most fun I've ever had tanking I think (aside maybe from Heroic Anub, which was a bit frustrating on the sides).


Yeah I remember tanking shattered halls and shitting myself that over the threat issues while trying to also stay alive at the same time.

Having to worry about 2 things > having to worry about 1 thing.

Dunno why tanks are even close to the top dps the 5% unpure tax should still exist right? Unless they thought that was a dumb mechanic as well?

That 5% tax is and was bullshit and isn't in the game anymore. You should be able to do competitive DPS as a hybrid as long as you are specced for DPS. Tanks doing too much damage is bullshit, but in an ideal world all DPS specs should be equal, whether they're mages or shadowpriests.


I liked the 5% tax simply because those classes are forced into longer queue timers and at the end of the day there is really only going to be 1 spec for them rather than 3 simply due to the numbers being slightly higher with one spec. Then again i've only ever played as a tank and a healer so maybe I just feel bad for them.
Prev 1 394 395 396 397 398 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #55
WardiTV977
OGKoka 358
SteadfastSC211
LamboSC2197
Rex149
CranKy Ducklings95
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko360
OGKoka 358
SteadfastSC 211
LamboSC2 197
Rex 149
Fuzer 148
ProTech75
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34967
Calm 8543
Sea 5659
Rain 4583
Flash 4110
Hyuk 2202
Horang2 1561
GuemChi 1407
Shuttle 921
Mini 703
[ Show more ]
PianO 654
Hyun 369
EffOrt 356
Larva 350
firebathero 341
Light 268
JYJ199
Pusan 161
Soulkey 111
Mind 99
Mong 82
Backho 66
Rush 62
soO 45
ToSsGirL 43
Aegong 41
Sharp 40
Terrorterran 25
Yoon 21
Sacsri 20
ivOry 19
sorry 16
Movie 16
Shine 16
SilentControl 11
sas.Sziky 11
Noble 11
HiyA 8
scan(afreeca) 7
Hm[arnc] 6
Dota 2
qojqva2492
Gorgc2222
XaKoH 381
XcaliburYe286
420jenkins255
syndereN182
Counter-Strike
markeloff101
edward43
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor186
Other Games
singsing2788
hiko730
B2W.Neo427
crisheroes361
Happy239
byalli196
Liquid`LucifroN108
oskar68
rGuardiaN24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2678
League of Legends
• Jankos1958
• Nemesis1269
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 44m
Replay Cast
10h 44m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 44m
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
1d
OSC
1d 4h
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
Safe House 2
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.