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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 15 2015 21:02 GMT
#7881
Wat

Both are piss ez
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 15 2015 21:26 GMT
#7882
On January 16 2015 06:02 Teoita wrote:
Wat

Both are piss ez


Yes but normal requires you dealing with more idiots thus its more difficult
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 15 2015 21:28 GMT
#7883
Shouldn't be pugging in the first place!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#7884
I recently started gearing my warlock for pvp, and I tried demo out of curiosity. I never played demo in the last 10 years I used my lock as a main, I always had bad feeling about the spec, that it was mindless and all, kinda like a lot of hunters have against BM.

Color me impressed, demolock is actually very fun and has a lot of interesting effects. I wonder how viable it is inPvP these days. You have some interesting burst options with demonbolt, more mobility with demonleap, and the wrathguard give you a 30sec cd 4sec ranged stun, good damage and even apply mortal strike, it's pretty crazy.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 15 2015 22:11 GMT
#7885
On January 16 2015 06:28 Teoita wrote:
Shouldn't be pugging in the first place!

Guilds shouldn't be wasting raid time in normal / heroic
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
January 15 2015 22:13 GMT
#7886
Guess it depends on guild size, but 10 people from within the guild shouldn't be too hard to dig up? unless you raid like every night and have members with day jobs.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#7887
On January 16 2015 07:13 Duvon wrote:
Guess it depends on guild size, but 10 people from within the guild shouldn't be too hard to dig up? unless you raid like every night and have members with day jobs.

I guess. It is just easier / simpler to press join group and instantly be in a pre built group ready to summon you there at any time in the day than it is to get guildies together and filling in the last few spots then getting yourself to highmaul
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 15 2015 22:22 GMT
#7888
Not every guild can field 20 people each day and dealing with pubs in mythic is undoable.

Thus we don't always raid Mythic, only when we can.
WriterXiao8~~
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 15 2015 22:25 GMT
#7889
my guild stopped doing normal, we do heroic 7/7 and mythic kargath + twins on Tuesday, and then Mythic progress Wednesday and Thursday.

On Tuesdays we have 30+ people online ready to raid, on Wednesday/Thursday we barely make 20.

I wonder why?


loot day brings out the masses.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 15 2015 22:28 GMT
#7890
Coined a hc trinket on Imperator weeeee \o/
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 22:37:35
January 15 2015 22:29 GMT
#7891
On January 16 2015 07:25 crms wrote:
my guild stopped doing normal, we do heroic 7/7 and mythic kargath + twins on Tuesday, and then Mythic progress Wednesday and Thursday.

On Tuesdays we have 30+ people online ready to raid, on Wednesday/Thursday we barely make 20.

I wonder why?


loot day brings out the masses.


This is why my previous guild awarded double DKP on progress nights

Also just got mythic shard of nothing to replace my 640 trinket
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 22:58:30
January 15 2015 22:57 GMT
#7892
On January 16 2015 06:28 Teoita wrote:
Shouldn't be pugging in the first place!


My guilds abandoned normal ages ago. Current one is talking about no longer running Heroic any more because of the difficulty level.

I went to pug some and joined a group for brackenspore+tectus, half of the group was doing literally 10-13k DPS, and nobody was attacking any of the adds aside from the huge one. Healers were super late on the shrooms, flamethrower guys messed up etc. It was pretty insightful :D

It's easy to forget that if you killed 2/7 mythic you're like top 3% in the world lol

i have no idea what the actual number is
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 15 2015 23:00 GMT
#7893
Yeah tbh that's why i'm not bothering to gear up my alt past 643ish. Pugs are just too annoying to deal with.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 23:05:10
January 15 2015 23:04 GMT
#7894
On January 16 2015 08:00 Teoita wrote:
Yeah tbh that's why i'm not bothering to gear up my alt past 643ish. Pugs are just too annoying to deal with.

Eh If you go on a wednesday the 660 groups are damn near flawless. Like an hour-2 hours for 7/7 with no wipes. Same with normal mode.

Issue is when you go into groups with people at 640-650 ilvl etc who are still learning fights

As much as I'd like normal to only be for 7/7 hc it is kinda unreasonable to request it
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 15 2015 23:05 GMT
#7895
Wednesday is our clear night, so that's not an option.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
January 15 2015 23:06 GMT
#7896
On January 16 2015 08:04 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 08:00 Teoita wrote:
Yeah tbh that's why i'm not bothering to gear up my alt past 643ish. Pugs are just too annoying to deal with.

Eh If you go on a wednesday the 660 groups are damn near flawless. Like an hour-2 hours for 7/7 with no wipes. Same with normal mode.

Issue is when you go into groups with people at 640-650 ilvl etc who are still learning fights


Heroic is tuned for ~650, but it's way easier when overgearing it

normal is tuned for 630, but in my experience if you find a full group of people who are only 625-635 they probably have no idea what they are doing or how to play their class
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 23:09:24
January 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#7897
On January 16 2015 08:05 Teoita wrote:
Wednesday is our clear night, so that's not an option.

Oh right I forgot US is Tuesdays rather than Wednesdays

Also golden rule of pubs - never do it unless you overgear it
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
January 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#7898
pugging is bad, but not as bad you guys make it to be. you just have to be patient but also know when a group is bound to fail. after you gear up a bit, even heroic imp becomes puggable. I've been with some bad guilds, so all my heroic progression was through pugs. I highly recommend getting the Oilvl addon to quickly gauge your group and see if anyone is trying to get carried.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
January 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#7899
Long as the pug group keeps it within 13-20 players generally it won't be horrible unless people have no idea what they're doing. I've seen good pugs go up in numbers for imp because they say the numbers are more lenient but it makes no difference when 5 out of 30 people mess up everything.
Doom Guy
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 23:19:37
January 15 2015 23:19 GMT
#7900
On January 16 2015 08:09 caelym wrote:
pugging is bad, but not as bad you guys make it to be. you just have to be patient but also know when a group is bound to fail. after you gear up a bit, even heroic imp becomes puggable. I've been with some bad guilds, so all my heroic progression was through pugs. I highly recommend getting the Oilvl addon to quickly gauge your group and see if anyone is trying to get carried.


I've been in some great PUG's, it's just that every PUG that i've joined to try and run normal in the last 3 resets (4-5 groups) using the group finder has been completely awful. None of them have managed to keep bottom DPS above 12k or so, and the others are extremely selective about who they take
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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